Mini 861: Hellsing Mafia - (Game Over!)

Amished · Post Post #675 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:41 pm

@DB9: Well, I'd suggest not doing it ever again unless you really know what you're doing.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #676 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:53 pm

kikuchiyo wrote:
Vote: Looker

I am fine if she is jester. Get her out of the way. Its a wasted vig shot as far as I'm concerned, plus, I think its incredibly ignorant to assume that Net's shot is going to connect. It may, it may not. We are better off letting Net do what he thinks is right, when he thinks it, and judge from that point. As it is, he is acting anti-town imo, however, we should be able to garner more info by using him as opposed to lynching him.

We have three claims on the table, pushing ARB to claim may just further complicate the issue and lynching without a claim may also backlash for us. Last game I played like this we ended up outing four power roles on day 1 and lynching the town doctor.

Its day 1. Lynch the claimed scum.

This is fair enough

Unvote, Vote Looker

And that is L-2 I beleive. (correct me if I"m wrong) I still feel as if we're going to hit jester hee. I don't like how everyone is just giving up it seems "Screw it if he's jester, I just want to get rid of him" If you truly think that way I encourage you to give second thoughts to that and to reconsider your vote. Just a heads up though, the deadline is Friday. If there is no lynch that I agree with I will vote Looker on Thursday because even though it's a bad lynch (at least from my PoV) it is still better than a No lynch.

Not sure I like this, but it's such an unpopular stance it almost could be taken as townie.

But, the fact that he's playing the middle ground feels like it's not as good as I'd like.

Well, generally speaking, if he really is scum, his partner(s) aren't going to want to get rid of him because it severely docks their chances. You could more than likely tell a reluctance near the latter part of the count. Possibly. Not saying it will prove useful. But it never hurts to look.

To be fair my late vote probably looks bad but I wanted him shot so we could lynch someone else today...but, I guess Kiku is right.

Not really, it just seemed more "comeplete" than 'I think ABR and Amished are the most scummy'

More complete != better

It gives the scum a little more info then is good for D1.

Netopalis · Post Post #677 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 12:57 pm

Forbiddan and Amished: Does it really give scum that much info? It should be fairly obvious who the town does and does not suspect....

Amished · Post Post #678 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:05 pm

You want to make their job easier? Ok, tell everyone everything you think at all times! Might as well claim so they know how to narrow down their NK suspects if they're going for a PR.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #679 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 1:06 pm

Forbiddan and Amished: Does it really give scum that much info? It should be fairly obvious who the town does and does not suspect....

Not necessarily. Just because someone isn't getting much flack doesn't mean they are unsuspected.

Netopalis · Post Post #680 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:03 pm

True, I guess. I suppose my thought was that the people who are the mafia are also people who have played here before and should be able to intuit who is scummy and who is not. Therefore, discussion of who is and who isn't scummy or who is and isn't townish seems perfectly reasonable, given that it gives very little info to the scum but it allows for a greater breadth of town discussion.

Kairyuu · Post Post #681 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:06 pm

Final Votecount of Day 1:

(

The “

Lynch the claimed scum!

” Votecount

)

1.

forbiddanlight

(0):
2.

Netopalis

(0):
3.

Amished

(0):
4.

fuzzylightning

(0):
5.

Konowa

(0):
6.

Shotty to the Body

(0):
7.

Chaco

(0):
8.

MafiaSSK

(0):
9.

Looker

(7):

Albert B. Rampage, Chaco, MafiaSSK, kikuchiyo, Amished, Konowa, forbiddanlight

10.

kikuchiyo

(0):
11.

Doombunny9

(1):

fuzzylightning

12.

Albert B. Rampage

(1):

Shotty to the Body

Not voting

(3):

Netopalis, Looker, Doombunny9

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to send someone to hell.

Lynch Count has been reached. Mod scene forthcoming.

fuzzylightning is being replaced.

Kairyuu · Post Post #682 (ISO) » Wed Oct 21, 2009 2:17 pm

The Day seems to drag on forever as the denizens of the town argue about who to brutally murder in the square. It seems almost a foregone conclusion at one point that it is to be saberwolf, but then he spontaneously combusts and is replaced by Albert B. Rampage. Suddenly, a voice rings through the crowd.

"Alright, fine, you got me. I'm a member of the Mafia," shouts a maddened Looker. "Hurry up and lynch me already!"

Frantic whispers spread throughout the assembled townspeople. "Why would a real mafioso claim Mafia? More likely a Jester?"

"Would the all-powerful being we can hear laughing every once in a while be so cruel as to send a Jester here?"

"It doesn't matter. She's claimed scum, so we lynch her. Don't give into the WIFOM."

And lynch her you did. Looker's corpse soon swung from the tallest building in town as a reminder of what happens when you claim scum around here. Too bad she was lying. . .

Looker, Luke Valentine, Pro-town Neighbor

,

lynched D1

Night 1 ends at 9:30pm EST, Saturday, October 24. All Night Actions not submitted by that time will be lost.

fuzzylightning is being replaced.

Kairyuu · Post Post #683 (ISO) » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:44 pm

magnus orion replaces fuzzylightning, effective immediately.

Kairyuu · Post Post #684 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:38 pm

The second day dawns bright and early, but the scent of blood in the air fills the townspeople with dread. First, they check the house of kikuchiyo, only to discover her corpse, a hole where her heart should be. Further exploration of the house brings a sigh of relief to the lips of the town's residents, for she was a member of the mafia, Incognito, to be precise.

kikuchiyo, Incognito, Mafia Jack of all Trades

run through, Night 1

The next house to be visited was Amished's, where he was found sitting peacefully in his chair. Unfortunately for him, his head was splattered all over the walls and ceiling. Further examination of his house revealed him to be Pip Bernadotte, a plain old townie.

Amished, Pip Bernadotte, Vanilla Townie

Headshot, Night 1

It is now D2. With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch.

Deadline is Saturday, November 14, at 8pm EST.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #685 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:43 pm

Ok...can we all facepalm at Looker now?

I want a DAMNED good explanation post game. Anyone have any ideas on who his neighbor was?

Netopalis · Post Post #686 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:22 pm

Forbiddan - I was thinking....Is it possible that he was a reverse-miller designed to throw him off? As for his neighbor's character, it's fairly obvious, as there were two Valentine brothers in the series.

Also - I didn't kill Amished OR kikuchyo, for the record - my one-shot vig is still intact. However, this means that we have an extra killing role....

Netopalis · Post Post #687 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:23 pm

Sorry, I should have said reverse-death-miller....

forbiddanlight · Post Post #688 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:25 pm

Forbiddan - I was thinking....Is it possible that he was a reverse-miller designed to throw him off? As for his neighbor's character, it's fairly obvious, as there were two Valentine brothers in the series.

I've done it before. That was my first thought but...I dunno

I could get behind a doombunny lynch though for the time being. Vampires != evil given what we know.

Also - I didn't kill Amished OR kikuchyo, for the record - my one-shot vig is still intact. However, this means that we have an extra killing role....

hehe, Kairyuu is pretty cool.

Netopalis · Post Post #689 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:28 pm

Hmm....Yeah, I'd suggest a Doombunny lynch as well, since the # of vampires doesn't seem to matter....Unless the scumgroup is real vampires, perhaps. In that case we'd be looking for Alucard/Incognito/Police Girl and possibly Helena.

forbiddanlight · Post Post #690 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:29 pm

Hmm....Yeah, I'd suggest a Doombunny lynch as well, since the # of vampires doesn't seem to matter....Unless the scumgroup is real vampires, perhaps. In that case we'd be looking for Alucard/Incognito/Police Girl and possibly Helena.

I have a feeling Alucard might be SK, to be honest.

This is completely irrational, btw, and I have nothing to support it.

Netopalis · Post Post #691 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:32 pm

As for the SK...I realize that my character is the most likely candidate, but I'd like to maintain that I'm not one. Other characters that would line up with it, though, would be Bubbancy (The Baboan Sith that attacked Integra while posing as her sister), Enrico, Walter or maybe Rip Van Winkle depending on how far these characters stretch.

MafiaSSK · Post Post #692 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:27 pm

forbiddanlight wrote:
Hmm....Yeah, I'd suggest a Doombunny lynch as well, since the # of vampires doesn't seem to matter....Unless the scumgroup is real vampires, perhaps. In that case we'd be looking for Alucard/Incognito/Police Girl and possibly Helena.
I have a feeling Alucard might be SK, to be honest.

This is completely irrational, btw, and I have nothing to support it.

You can honestly imagine Alucard being an SK? Really?!

forbiddanlight · Post Post #693 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:28 pm

MafiaSSK wrote:
forbiddanlight wrote:
Hmm....Yeah, I'd suggest a Doombunny lynch as well, since the # of vampires doesn't seem to matter....Unless the scumgroup is real vampires, perhaps. In that case we'd be looking for Alucard/Incognito/Police Girl and possibly Helena.
I have a feeling Alucard might be SK, to be honest.

This is completely irrational, btw, and I have nothing to support it.
You can honestly imagine Alucard being an SK? Really?!

You do realize he only serves Integra for the lulz. I would totally cast him as SK just to piss off the people who want to break the game with claims.

magnus_orion · Post Post #694 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:46 pm

hi guys...
I don't know anything about hellsing, and once I free up some time I intend to read through the game... but right now I've got an evil java project to tame today and then calculus homework to do tomorrow...

Chaco · Post Post #695 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:54 pm

I was his neighbor, his alignment was ambiguous and I didn't know it. Therefore, if he's going to claim scum, I couldn't tell you he wasn't.

(iPhone post)

Netopalis · Post Post #696 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:03 pm

Chaco....Hmm...I think it should be said that this doesn't make you any less scummy, since, while theoretically neighbors could be both town, this rarely happens in practice. That being said, we've already been shown that this will have some odd rules...so perhaps we should discount normal practices....I'll consider it a null claim for now.

Chaco · Post Post #697 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:14 pm

Take it as you wish, but be smart about it. Oh well, since my roles outed might as well name with it. I'm jan.

@mod: Kairyuu, you put the wrong name up for Looker. He was Luke.

Amished · Post Post #698 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:25 pm

Bah. Go Town.

Doombunny9 · Post Post #699 (ISO) » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:38 pm

Ok, first of all. CURSE YOU LOOKER. You'd better have a good explanation for this the next time I see you.

I'm assuming the person who killed kikuchio was a SK or we have another vig running around but I find that highly unlikely.

Finally, for some reason I did not get a PM saying how many vampires there were. I'm assuming that there is a roleblocker among us and that he/she roleblocked me and that prevented me from getting the PM.

Also, there's one other thing that's been bothering me. Looker was a nazi vampire if I'm not mistaken. Even if Neto is correct in saying that he was a reverse-death miller it still leaves chaco being a town sided nazi vampire. So could the mafia be something differant from the vamps is what I'm thinking right now. Than again, if one of them is scum that could still mean that the vampires are still scum. Amyway this is all just meaningless WIFOM so I"m going to drop it for now but keep it in the back of my mind.