Mini 865 -- Evil Eyes (Over)

[Nuwen]

Nuwen, in 132 you forgot SophisticDoctrine. He's lurking scum, no?

Lurking, yes. He's posted so little that I missed his presence altogether while rereading. Scum? Dunno. I don't approve of lurker lynches and always think forcing a replacement is a better idea.

[tubby216]

vote MrSuave

.

I am jealous of his suavity.

so you put him at l-3 for bs reasons?

did you read the thread or do you crave the attention?

for this and lurking

vote: SphistricDoctrine

[ekiM]

Depends whether they're actively lurking or literally not playing, I guess. We'll see.

tubby, that all you got?

[xRECKONERx]

Hey, xRECKONERx, you say that "increased" usage of emoticons is a scum-tell, and warn MrSuave not to do it. Two points:

First, what are you comparing with to decide that he's "increased" his usage?

Second,

if you think someone is subconsciously dropping a scum-tell, why are you warning him about it

? If you're town his alignment should be unknown to you, so why wouldn't you note it silently and keep scrutinizing him? Warning people of unknown alignment how to avoid your suspicion doesn't seem like the best possible scum-hunting method.

First, I'm comparing it to his earlier posts in the game, which seemed to have less emoticons. Maybe I'm just retarded, I don't know, but I swear I've read a legit theory that supports my idea of increasing emoticon usage = scum somewhere before.

Second, I didn't really see it as warning, though you're totally fucking right and I shouldn't have brought it up now in retrospect.

And, uh...

Unvote, Vote: Tubby

[tubby216]

Depends whether they're actively lurking or literally not playing, I guess. We'll see.

tubby, that all you got?

yup

[Hoopla]

Hey, xRECKONERx, you say that "increased" usage of emoticons is a scum-tell, and warn MrSuave not to do it. Two points:

First, what are you comparing with to decide that he's "increased" his usage?

Second,

if you think someone is subconsciously dropping a scum-tell, why are you warning him about it

? If you're town his alignment should be unknown to you, so why wouldn't you note it silently and keep scrutinizing him? Warning people of unknown alignment how to avoid your suspicion doesn't seem like the best possible scum-hunting method.

First, I'm comparing it to his earlier posts in the game, which seemed to have less emoticons. Maybe I'm just retarded, I don't know, but I swear I've read a legit theory that supports my idea of increasing emoticon usage = scum somewhere before.

Second, I didn't really see it as warning, though you're totally fucking right and I shouldn't have brought it up now in retrospect.

And, uh...

Unvote, Vote: Tubby

Lol

[Hoopla]

Depends whether they're actively lurking or literally not playing, I guess. We'll see.

tubby, that all you got?

Hello ekiM, are you scum?

[Hoopla]

well I'm gonna say this right now... from when I played with Hoopla as her being town and her now, her play style seems a lot more random and not very logical. go to that game that JW linked to, to see what I'm talking about.

OOOH. And your playstyle is exactly the same that game!

[MrSuave]

@Hoopla

Why are you being so defensive Hoopla? You're waaaay more agressive thi game. For seriously. I don't know what changed from when you were a nice supportive obv-town in Korlash, to being this angry defensive girl in... where ever we are now. Did something happen to you? Are you mad I won? Is your scum tell being angry and agressive? Are you scum?

[MrSuave]

Hey, xRECKONERx, you say that "increased" usage of emoticons is a scum-tell, and warn MrSuave not to do it. Two points:

First, what are you comparing with to decide that he's "increased" his usage?

Second,

if you think someone is subconsciously dropping a scum-tell, why are you warning him about it

? If you're town his alignment should be unknown to you, so why wouldn't you note it silently and keep scrutinizing him? Warning people of unknown alignment how to avoid your suspicion doesn't seem like the best possible scum-hunting method.

First, I'm comparing it to his earlier posts in the game, which seemed to have less emoticons. Maybe I'm just retarded, I don't know, but I swear I've read a legit theory that supports my idea of increasing emoticon usage = scum somewhere before.

Second, I didn't really see it as warning, though you're totally fucking right and I shouldn't have brought it up now in retrospect.

And, uh...

Unvote, Vote: Tubby

Lol

HAHA, I just got that! I see what you did thar! xD but again, the question I must ask is... are you scum? O_o

[HowardRoark]

Vote Count (D1)

Nuwen (1) -- geekalicious
tubby216 (1) -- xRECKONERx
Hoopla (1) -- MrSuave
MrSuave (4) -- julienvonwolfe, MacavityLock,

SophistricDoctrine

, Hoopla
geekalicious (2) -- iamausername, Nuwen

SophistricDoctrine

(2) -- ekiM, tubby216
Toro (1) -- Toro

Not Voting (0)

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: 12 NOV 2009 at 5:15 pm UTC (Countdown)

Toro has been prodded. (1st)

Seeking a replacement for SophistricDoctrine.

[julienvonwolfe]

HAHA, I just got that! I see what you did thar! xD but again, the question I must ask is... are you scum? O_o

What will this achieve?

[Hoopla]

@Hoopla

Why are you being so defensive Hoopla? You're waaaay more agressive thi game. For seriously. I don't know what changed from when you were a nice supportive obv-town in Korlash, to being this angry defensive girl in... where ever we are now. Did something happen to you? Are you mad I won? Is your scum tell being angry and agressive? Are you scum?

No, I am not scum. Are you scum? Please answer my question in exactly two words.

[ekiM]

Nope, Hoola, not this time.

How likely are these "are you scum" questions to get any useful response?

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I'm a little nonplussed by xRECKONERx's mea culpa. It feels town.

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Unvote; Vote: tubby216

for doing notheeeeng.

[Hoopla]

Nope, Hoola, not this time.

How likely are these "are you scum" questions to get any useful response?

Not likely, I just like to chat.

[iamausername]

Why am I your strongest town read?

I'm trying to figure out how to explain it in more words than 'gut'. I think it might be more based on how everyone else has reacted to your posts than your posts in themselves. I'm not seeing any potential scum partner reactions there, while there are some potential "scum looking for easy target" reactions.

I still want to know how Reck read Hoopla as rolefishing.

I don't see what's so hard to follow. What, exactly, would you expect to discern from someone's response to "Why so eager to claim?" besides an idea of what their role is? Are scum supposed to be more or less eager to claim than townies?

(This question also goes to Hoopla, for obvious reasons.)

First, I'm comparing it to his earlier posts in the game, which seemed to have less emoticons. Maybe I'm just retarded, I don't know, but I swear I've read a legit theory that supports my idea of increasing emoticon usage = scum somewhere before.

I think I've seen it used as a specific tell on Battle Mage somewhere, and the logic behind the theory makes sense to me. I could certainly buy that someone would be more inclined to use emoticons as scum than as town. I'm not sure that comparing MrSuave's emoticon use earlier in this game to his emoticon use now in this game makes a lot of sense, though. It's not like his alignment would have changed halfway through the day, is it?

Unvote; Vote: tubby216

for doing notheeeeng.

I don't like this. Really, what has ekiM done that tubby hasn't?

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Still loving my geek vote. More people should join this wagon.

[Nuwen]

Geek, what do you think of Reckoner's vote on Tubby and Tubby himself?

Hi Hoopla.

[Hoopla]

I don't see what's so hard to follow. What, exactly, would you expect to discern from someone's response to "Why so eager to claim?" besides an idea of what their role is? Are scum supposed to be more or less eager to claim than townies?

(This question also goes to Hoopla, for obvious reasons.)

I don't think so, but claiming so early is not a situation we need. It was more a question to probe MrSuave's understanding of the claiming process. Recently (ongoing game) a player claimed after a two-vote wagon at the start of day 3. It was not a necessary claim.

Hi Hoopla.

Hello possum, have you enjoyed your return to mafia so far?

[Nuwen]

Without asking, it was already obvious that Suave had nothing more than a mechanical understanding of how a claim goes down.

Hello possum, have you enjoyed your return to mafia so far?

SUPAH FUN.

[MacavityLock]

I still want to know how Reck read Hoopla as rolefishing.

I don't see what's so hard to follow. What, exactly, would you expect to discern from someone's response to "Why so eager to claim?" besides an idea of what their role is? Are scum supposed to be more or less eager to claim than townies?

Hoopla's answer

I don't think so, but claiming so early is not a situation we need. It was more a question to probe MrSuave's understanding of the claiming process.

is pretty much how I read it. I do think that a nervous and under-the-gun scum might be more willing to do something "big" (claim) to potentially change the story. I certainly don't think that would go for all players, but it might with a newer and more immature player. As such, I found it to be a pretty reasonable question.

I already explained how I missed Reck's reading of it, and still disagree with him about it.

[HowardRoark]

Symbol replaces SophistricDoctrine.

[Nuwen]

Hi Symbol!

Who is scum?

[Symbol]

Hello, Nuwen. Hello, all you jerks who failed to greet me within two minutes of the mod note.

Vote: Toro.

FOS: ekiM, Nuwen, Hoopla.

MrSuave should request a day vigilante role PM from the mod, then kill himself.

SophistricDoctine joke-voted MrSuave to L-3 and got yelled at. Immediately afterward, Hoopla put Suave at L-2 and no one seemed to care. Noted.

Oh, and hello, RECK.

[Symbol]

%$#@, I spelled Sophistic wrong.

[xRECKONERx]

Hi, Symbol. Why did you greet me apart from everyone else?