Open 172 - Mini Love - GAME OVER!

Vino · Post Post #425 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:53 am

Sorry guys I've been really busy the last couple days.

So our main focus right now should be choosing who to lynch. It looks like the options are Nikanor, Khamisa, and Yankee.

If Khamisa and Yankee are lovers then I think they are not a good candidates. I would rather the lovers stay alive for now. I've heard people say that scum wants to keep the lovers alive, but I think that town wants to keep the lovers alive too. If the scum lovers die then the town lovers become a target and the doc can't protect them both, and if the town lovers die then we've lost two confirmed townies, and we still haven't found any of the two other scum. Those two non-lover scum are who we need to be focusing on right now.

So I'm pretty much keeping my vote on Nikanor. I've expressed a number of times why I think he is deserving of a lynch.

Also I think that Khamisa's lover is not an issue right now and doesn't help us decide which one of the three to lynch, given I don't think we should lynch any lovers at all.

Most importantly though, Nikanor currently has and has had for a while the most votes, and yet Khamisa is the one who claimed. Nikanor, you need to claim.

VOTE COUNT

Khamisa (4): Kirbyoshi, Head_Honcho, Netlava, Yankee
Yankee (4): Khamisa, dramonic, Snow_Bunny, Locke Lamora
Nikanor (3): Vino, animorpherv1, Looker
Vino (1): Nikanor

Not Voting (0)

With 12 Alive, 7 is needed to lynch.
4 Needed to lynch at Deadline.

The extended deadline is October 24th, sometime in the evening.

Nikanor · Post Post #426 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 6:56 am

Vino wrote:Most importantly though, Nikanor currently has and has had for a while the most votes, and yet Khamisa is the one who claimed. Nikanor, you need to claim.

Do I? Let me get my role pm, one second.
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Oops! I deleted it! Looks like I won't be claiming today, sorry guis!

Yankee · Post Post #427 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:02 am

@ Kirbyoshi - I self voted even though i thought HH was town because:

A). I could be wrong and he could be the treacherous, and
B). If we are both town, and i was going to be lynched anyways, the other town lover would claim since his partner is obviously the treacherous.

It was a gamble, even though i was kind of hoping that HH WAS scum, but i didnt think so. If he was then we would have spared another lover pair and eliminated a scum at the same time. I thought it would be the best thing to do for the town at the time. At dramonic, i dont understand your post 417. How is it scummy to think that Khamisa's partner is scum when i am almost certain HH isnt? And what does rolling a dice have to do with anything? My vote has nothing to do with Rolling a dice because it is most likely in my opinion to lynch a scum today by lynching Khamisa. I am starting to get the feeling that you are Khamisa's lover and want to save your own skin. The only lovers that should be worried about being lynched today is the treacherous lover. The others should be happy to be lynched because IMO it helps the town out in general.

Vino · Post Post #428 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 7:34 am

Nikanor wrote:
Vino wrote:Most importantly though, Nikanor currently has and has had for a while the most votes, and yet Khamisa is the one who claimed. Nikanor, you need to claim.
Do I? Let me get my role pm, one second.
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Oops! I deleted it! Looks like I won't be claiming today, sorry guis!

This is unacceptable. Claim now or die.

Nikanor · Post Post #429 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:36 am

Vino wrote:This is unacceptable. Claim now or die.

I told you I can't. I lost the pm, and I don't remember my role.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #430 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:20 am

Sorry. When I heard the site was moving on th 17th, I decided to not check up untill a few days later. If anyone is willing to explain, that would be kind.

Vino · Post Post #431 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:40 am

Nikanor wrote:I told you I can't. I lost the pm, and I don't remember my role.

I wish I had another vote so I could vote you for this bullshit. You know exactly what you role is.

Nikanor · Post Post #432 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:44 am

Vino wrote:I wish I had another vote so I could vote you for this bullshit. You know exactly what you role is.

I'm a motivator. I gave you an extra vote n0, so feel free to doublevote me if you like.

Vino · Post Post #433 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:57 am

Serves me right for saying you had the most votes in the very some post that the moderator posted a vote count with you having less thank Yankee and Khamisa. Still, Nikanor had more votes at one point than either of those two, and I'd much rather have seen Nikanor claiming than either of those two.

Kirbyoshi · Post Post #434 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:08 am

Nik's excuse for not claiming is the biggest load of crap I've seen in my short stint on MS. You don't just delete a role PM, and if it were me, I wouldn't just "forget" my role. Call it cockiness if you want, call it supremacy if you want, but I find Nik to be extremely scummy because of that. NIK, CLAAAIIMMMMMMMMVHJVHJVHJKHFV!

Nikanor · Post Post #435 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:11 am

So I think Kirby is scum. His reasons for ranking people like he did in his analysis post are complete crap and make little sense, and should definitely be looked at later once he flips scum.

Haha, I lied about being motivator, btw. I'm actually a supersaint! Lynch meeeee!

animorpherv1 · Post Post #436 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:36 am

Nikanor wrote:So I think Kirby is scum. His reasons for ranking people like he did in his analysis post are complete crap and make little sense, and should definitely be looked at later once he flips scum.

Haha, I lied about being motivator, btw. I'm actually a supersaint! Lynch meeeee!

bullcrap. There is no supersaint.

Snow_Bunny · Post Post #437 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:41 am

Nikanor wrote:
Vino wrote:This is unacceptable. Claim now or die.
I told you I can't. I lost the pm, and I don't remember my role.

Must... resist... urge... to lynch...

Kirbyoshi · Post Post #438 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:47 am

SB, my thoughts exactly. Actually, he's acting so scummy so close to deadline, it's making me think he's town, which I guess could be a scum gambit, except that it's not lowering his lynchability AT ALL, at least for me.

Khamisa · Post Post #439 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:50 am

Kirbyoshi wrote:@Khamisa: Are you asking for an extension for the sole purpose that people may unvote you? I personally think both Yankee and HH are town, so I would appreciate if you would reveal your partner, if you think he/she's scum.

I can't believe you are serious. I'm asking for an extension because we honestly need time to work out the new situation. It sounds like you are stretching to find ways for me to be scum.

dramonic wrote:Also Khamisa, you shouldn't have claimed. If the treacherous isn't with you you're a target now.

I had no choice. It was either me or Nikanor, and with the deadline on the day of my claim, I felt it was the best choice.

Snow_Bunny wrote:Ah, I don't know. I'm leaning to think that Yankee is really the treacherous lover. And that Khamisa is his scumbuddy. Why? Well, he unvoted so near the deadline, meaning that Khamisa is less likely to be hit at deadline.

So you think I'm lying? I would have to be stupid. If I weren't truly a Lover, one of the other pair could claim, and I'd have no one to back me up as my partner.

I know this isn't chronological, but thinking about Yankee's post: He said he didn't want to lynch lovers, yet he didn't vote for Nikanor, instead went to Vino. This only makes me think even further that Yankee and Nikanor are scum together.

I don't. How is HH scummy? I don't see it.

I agree that Head_Honcho is not. But Yankee almost makes up for it.

Nikanor is ruining this game. I'm really pondering between him and Yankee at this point.

Nikanor · Post Post #440 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:50 am

So... your thinking I'm town, yet that doesn't lower my lynchability? How does that work out?

Nikanor · Post Post #441 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:52 am

Khamisa wrote:Nikanor is ruining this game.

How so? I'm playing to my town wincon as best I can... :S

Oh, and

Vote: Kirbyoshi.

I think he's scum. Not that I think he's going to be lynched today, but I'd at least like for my vote to be on scum when I'm lynched.

Kirbyoshi · Post Post #442 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:59 am

Nik, you are not playing to a town wincon. It seems like you are playing to a jester wincon. I'm tempted to speculate that scum wants to lynch you just as much as town does at this point, simply because you're being a jerk. That's why it doesn't lower your lynchability. If my vote were not already on scum, I would vote you, simply for a policy lynch.

Snow_Bunny · Post Post #443 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:02 am

@Kham: I already said it was my mistake.

@Nik: If you lost your role PM, and don't remember it, how can you be so sure of your wincon?

Ah, I don't know anymore. For one thing I'm sure: I rather lynch Yankee or Nik than Kham. In fact, I think Nik just crossed the line. At least Yankee is a lover, and that can always be looked up later. I think Nik is shielding in the two claimed lovers as to protect himself for the time being. He doesn't want to claim as he can be easily counterclaimed by another person (unless he claim VT, which still doesn't help his case).

Unvote. Vote: Nikanor

Come on, we need to lynch the scum.

Kirbyoshi · Post Post #444 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:02 am

And btw Nik, do you mind making an actual case against me, rather than voting me for giving an analysis? I said my score on Snow was a little high; otherwise, I stand by my rankings for where the game was at that point. So, not that it'll do any good, but I'd like to see a case laid out against me, if you would, Nik.

And you can "look at me," as he said, all you want; I'm confident you won't find anything scummy against me.

Nikanor · Post Post #445 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:40 am

Kirby wrote:I'm tempted to speculate that scum wants to lynch you just as much as town does at this point, simply because you're being a jerk.

What makes you say that? If I were scum, I'd be pushing for my lynch as well. Scum always want to lynch town. I don't see the logical connection you're making here.

animorpherv1 · Post Post #446 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:52 am

I think I sortof do. Scum are seeing you as an easy target to pick apart. Since your recent actions (misclaiming several times, etc...) are completly out in left field it makes you a very easy target.

Nikanor · Post Post #447 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:12 pm

animorpherv1 wrote:Scum are seeing you as an easy target to pick apart. Since your recent actions (misclaiming several times, etc...) are completly out in left field it makes you a very easy target.

Exactly.
Do me a favour and pick apart my bandwagon when I'm dead, will ya?

Head_Honcho · Post Post #448 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:31 pm

Normally I would think this is his way of saying "I won't claim with 3 votes", which strikes me as completely reasonable, though if he is town he should be direct about it instead of falling back on jackassery.

Nik if you get lynched day one for the stuff you're doing now when you were already a lynch candidate, nobody is going to care about who was voting for you if you flip town.

Nikanor wrote:I believe I am still a viable lynch option at this point, if enough people feel as I do about lynching our lovers right now.

Are you really so noble and town that you would rather yourself get lynched than see any of our lovers get lynched!?

Animorph, welcome back to the game, who do you find scummy and why?

Nikanor · Post Post #449 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:33 pm

H_H wrote:Are you really so noble and town that you would rather yourself get lynched than see any of our lovers get lynched!?

It appears that way, yes.