Mini 857 Disney Movie Mafia 2 - The Classics (Roll Credits)

[chamber]

Back and catching up as quickly as I can since as our deadline is very near.

Atm I believe there are 3 votes for both neopi and starbuck that makes you the swing vote under these deadline rules if no one else shows up (hint: vote for neopi).

[semioldguy]

And Monkey, can you just explain why Peter Pan is a "conditional" watcher?

I've asked this before as well, and haven't seen it answered yet. Why are you ignoring this MonkeyMan?

Either

a) The day killer knew kmd was right about starbuck, and wanted him dead to eliminate a threat.

b) The day killer knew kmd was wrong about starbuck, and killed him so we would think he was right.

c) The day killer is actually town, thought kmd was scummy, but was wrong.

I think the best way to find out is to lynch starbuck, and find out if I survive the night.

I think this is scummy for the speculation, which is very railroaded, and for you supposed "best way to find out" solution which is in my opinion ridiculous.

Also, did Kmd's death affect you having an ability tonight?

@Everyone
I don't doubt that Starbuck is the role-name she claims. I am certain that is her character name and movie. Based on last game, character and movie did not determine alignment and I doubt that would change here. People debating whether a Toy Story character would be a scum-role or not is a really dumb idea.

[chamber]

lol just realized I missed the deadline change. Ignore me.

[semioldguy]

Back and catching up as quickly as I can since as our deadline is very near.

Atm I believe there are 3 votes for both neopi and starbuck that makes you the swing vote under these deadline rules if no one else shows up (hint: vote for neopi).

I didn't need the hint. I don't find Starbuck to be all that scummy. I would still prefer a MonkeyMan576 lynch. He continues to make scummy posts and ignoring players.

HoS: MonkeyMan576

Vote: Neopi

fuzzylightning was scummy, which Neopi did nothing to erase and has done nothing to seem town this game (or really has done nothing at all).

[semioldguy]

Oh, we did get a deadline change with the Daykill.

Unvote; Vote: MonkeyMan576

FoS:

Neopi

YankCane151, you've been very silent, care to give us some thoughts?

[MonkeyMan576]

And Monkey, can you just explain why Peter Pan is a "conditional" watcher?

I've asked this before as well, and haven't seen it answered yet. Why are you ignoring this MonkeyMan?

Either

a) The day killer knew kmd was right about starbuck, and wanted him dead to eliminate a threat.

b) The day killer knew kmd was wrong about starbuck, and killed him so we would think he was right.

c) The day killer is actually town, thought kmd was scummy, but was wrong.

I think the best way to find out is to lynch starbuck, and find out if I survive the night.

I think this is scummy for the speculation, which is very railroaded, and for you supposed "best way to find out" solution which is in my opinion ridiculous.

Also, did Kmd's death affect you having an ability tonight?

@Everyone
I don't doubt that Starbuck is the role-name she claims. I am certain that is her character name and movie. Based on last game, character and movie did not determine alignment and I doubt that would change here. People debating whether a Toy Story character would be a scum-role or not is a really dumb idea.

I have not gotten a pm indicating KMD's death effected my ability.

I don't think debating Toy Story is dumb, and it could be especially useful later on when we know more about the makeup of the mafia. To outright dismiss it is really dumb.

[semioldguy]

It's speculation and distraction from scum hunting. Period.

[semioldguy]

Also you continue to ignore the request, from multiple players, to explain the flavor of your conditional ability. I am happy with my vote.

[MonkeyMan576]

Also you continue to ignore the request, from multiple players, to explain the flavor of your conditional ability. I am happy with my vote.

Explain the "multiple players".

I think most players believe my roleclaim. Therefore I am not going to give any more info about my role to the mafia.

[Gorrad]

MM: My role, like Toy Story, is from the mid-nineties. So shut up about time period. It's stupid.

[semioldguy]

Crazy and myself alone would make multiple (which means more than one).

Also this:

Read below my RC.

Oh, okay. That went past me.

Does that mean Vanilla Townie or any pro-town person?

Any pro-town person, I presume.

Ask the Mod via PM.

[MonkeyMan576]

MM: My role, like Toy Story, is from the mid-nineties. So shut up about time period. It's stupid.

Well you're entitled to your opinion. Like I said, it's not just the year, it's the type of animation. The mod didn't call it classic disney for no reason. I mean, if was an open book game, Up could be in it, which, because of the name of the game, I doubt. So no, I won't shut up about it. Anything that could potentially be useful in finding scum now or at a later point is worth talking about imho.

@semioldguy: 2 people asking for flavor info does not constitute a will of the people. My flavor is not that hard to figure out if you think about it, and like I said, I don't want to give the mafia more info that they already have.

[semioldguy]

If it isn't that hard to figure out, then you should have no problem sharing it. What you just said and have said is almost word for word what scum said last game about their fake-claim.

I don't believe your claim.

The mod is fallible. Last game was Disney-Dreamworks. There was an Ice-Age character which is neither. Your speculation remains and will continue to be useless. I'd go as far as to say that it is actually harmful to the town.

[MonkeyMan576]

If it isn't that hard to figure out, then you should have no problem sharing it. What you just said and have said is almost word for word what scum said last game about their fake-claim.

I don't believe your claim.

The mod is fallible. Last game was Disney-Dreamworks. There was an Ice-Age character which is neither. Your speculation remains and will continue to be useless. I'd go as far as to say that it is actually harmful to the town.

Then don't believe it. I don't like how you act like you're speaking for everyone. If you want to get into an argument about who's being more pro-town then we can have at it.

If everyone roleclaimed because one or two players wanted them two, that would be anti-town play, and I'm not going to give more info here..

[Starbuck]

Also you continue to ignore the request, from multiple players, to explain the flavor of your conditional ability. I am happy with my vote.

Explain the "multiple players".

I think most players believe my roleclaim. Therefore I am not going to give any more info about my role to the mafia.

Semioldguy and Crazy have both asked for you to elaborate. I did it for you by linking to your past posts on the last page I believe, but I'm not sure if they've seen it.

[MonkeyMan576]

That's fine, three players, two of which are towards the top of my scumlist. So I don't put much credence in it.

[YankCane151]

YankCane151, you've been very silent, care to give us some thoughts?

Starbuck, still scummy but I think she isn't as scummy as Neopi. I will give Neopi some benefit of the doubt being new, I just dont think he's pro town.

The Kmd kill right after an era claim is interesting. Monkey is the one who speculated the after 1980s thing, but that doesn't make him guilty of the day kill. It sounds more like someone not wanting Kmd to talk, but he is town so that wouldnt make much sense either.

Jazzmyn, Gorrad, chamber and semioldguy I don't have a read on.(or at least an important one)

SC almost seems TOO town. Long writing, explanations, defenses. Its not scummy, just struck me as weird.

Monkey is a toss up. So is Starbuck. At some points I think scumbuddies, at other times I think two townies fighting.

[Starbuck]

Here is Monkey's claim post:

Fine, I'm tired of the bickering. I could easily string out this argument, but I won't.

I'm

Peter Pan, Town Conditional Watcher

.

I'm a watcher as long as we don't lynch a townie.

\


Right below that post Crazy asks what conditional means, but Monkey says it right there in his claim. So I believe he did elaborate, so I can see his frustration when he has already elaborated and people are asking him to do so still.

[Starbuck]

I suck at quotes, dammit.

Mod - Can you fix the above for me? Thank you!

tags fixed

[Starbuck]

That's fine, three players, two of which are towards the top of my scumlist. So I don't put much credence in it.

Are you including me in that list? I've read and cited your claim post multiple times, and saw what you said about your condition.

[MonkeyMan576]

That's fine, three players, two of which are towards the top of my scumlist. So I don't put much credence in it.

Are you including me in that list? I've read and cited your claim post multiple times, and saw what you said about your condition.

I thought you said in 614 that you were agreeing with Semioldguy, so yes, but I apologize if there was a misunderstanding regarding that issue.

[Starbuck]

That's fine, three players, two of which are towards the top of my scumlist. So I don't put much credence in it.

Are you including me in that list? I've read and cited your claim post multiple times, and saw what you said about your condition.

I thought you said in 614 that you were agreeing with Semioldguy, so yes, but I apologize if there was a misunderstanding regarding that issue.

I said this:

Semioldguy and Crazy have both asked for you to elaborate. I did it for you by linking to your past posts on the last page I believe, but I'm not sure if they've seen it.

How quick you are to try and misrepresent me.

[Crazy]

Right below that post Crazy asks what conditional means, but Monkey says it right there in his claim. So I believe he did elaborate, so I can see his frustration when he has already elaborated and people are asking him to do so still.

Yeah, I missed that. But I'm not asking that now; I'm asking what in his flavor makes him a

conditional

watcher.

Monkey, you've already claimed your role; you have nothing to benefit scum by explaining the flavor in it.

If you don't explain now, expect me to vote you the first time we lynch a townie.

As for now, I'd much rather lynch Neopi than Starbuck, but I want to see if anybody else catches my eye.

[MonkeyMan576]

That's fine, three players, two of which are towards the top of my scumlist. So I don't put much credence in it.

Are you including me in that list? I've read and cited your claim post multiple times, and saw what you said about your condition.

I thought you said in 614 that you were agreeing with Semioldguy, so yes, but I apologize if there was a misunderstanding regarding that issue.

I said this:

Semioldguy and Crazy have both asked for you to elaborate. I did it for you by linking to your past posts on the last page I believe, but I'm not sure if they've seen it.

How quick you are to try and misrepresent me.

I wasn't "trying to misrepresent you", if that was the case, I wouldn't have apolgized for misunderstanding you.

[YankCane151]

Right below that post Crazy asks what conditional means, but Monkey says it right there in his claim. So I believe he did elaborate, so I can see his frustration when he has already elaborated and people are asking him to do so still.

Yeah, I missed that. But I'm not asking that now; I'm asking what in his flavor makes him a

conditional

watcher.

Monkey, you've already claimed your role; you have nothing to benefit scum by explaining the flavor in it.

If you don't explain now, expect me to vote you the first time we lynch a townie.

As for now, I'd much rather lynch Neopi than Starbuck, but I want to see if anybody else catches my eye.

He is scum because he won't explain his flavor? He may not even know his flavor.