Mini 861: Hellsing Mafia - (Game Over!)

[Netopalis]

Kik - The only reason that I'm a bit less concerned about the lynch vs. the vig is that I've found that generally day 1 lynches aren't that accurate. I find that their value is more in the information that they provide than in a tool to eliminate scum. Killing saber gives us information. Also, lynches are a renewable resource, while I only have one shot - the question is then when to use that one shot.

[Kairyuu]

Mod is sick, and doesn't want to do anything except sleep until he is better.

I'll try to get a votecount out tomorrow, and I'll work on getting that saberwolf replacement also. Hopefully you guys can bear with me until then.

Sorry about this.

[Doombunny9]

@forbiddan and Shotty Shotty-I noticed you haven't even said anything about my claim. Did you even see it?

[Shotty to the Body]

I never thought you were that scummy to begin with, so it doesn't really surprise me. Just confirmed what I already suspected, you've been outed now so I'm not sure how much use your ability will be.

[Doombunny9]

But you voted me? Care to explain?

[Doombunny9]

EBWOP

I'm an idiot. Shotty only voted saber, not me.

[Looker]

Hey, Doom, what's wrong with the theory that you, Amished, and Saber are the scum?

[MafiaSSK]

Mod, I will be gone over the course of the weekend.

Noted.

[forbiddanlight]

Anyway, I am Sir Integra Hellsing, leader of the war against vampires, and an informed townie meaning at the end of every night I get to know how many vampires are alive because I am so awesome at recognizing them. The end.

Oh, hi, missed this claim.

Pretty cool...

But so EASILY fakeclaimed by scum it's not even funny.

[Amished]

+scum points to forb for 533. Sir Integra is a major part of every series and somebody you expect to be in the game. Not as a safe claim, as a real claim. Unless you have more evidence than "oh, it's a likely fake claim" I'm gonna hold 533 as the scummiest thing you've said.

/facepalm at 531 and Looker. Can we please lynch for active lurking?

[forbiddanlight]

Sir Integra is a major part of every series and somebody you expect to be in the game. Not as a safe claim, as a real claim. Unless you have more evidence than "oh, it's a likely fake claim" I'm gonna hold 533 as the scummiest thing you've said.

Besides the fact that I've made important people falseclaims for scum (and will continue to do so), and db's scummy behavior, nope, guess I've just been scummy.

I could see Integra as a falseclaim, and I also think the role fits QUITE nicely with that.

HOWEVER!

I would like to take advantage of this upon further review.

Unvote

Let him live a night. So we can get some numbers. Then we lynch/vig him.

As far as I can tell,

Vote Saberwolf

brings him to L-2.

What would be NICE is a votecount.

Remind me to demand a votecount from you mere hours after you mention rl issues keeping you from posting one in the next game I play of yours.

[Amished]

Say that DB didn't have to claim. How does scum benefit from knowing how many vampires are out there? I don't see how that benefits the scum moreso than the town to make it a fakeclaim.

@Mod: Can we get a votecount

(seconded forb's request, but in bolding )

[Netopalis]

Amished, if we're not going to give any credence to claims, what's the point in asking for them?

[Shotty to the Body]

We gave your claim credence, it's sort of a case-by-case thing based on the claim Neto.

[forbiddanlight]

Say that DB didn't have to claim. How does scum benefit from knowing how many vampires are out there? I don't see how that benefits the scum moreso than the town to make it a fakeclaim.

You do realize I'm implying he DOES NOT HAVE THIS ABILITY! That he's a goon who will just report, true or false, how many people are in his faction.

Amished, if we're not going to give any credence to claims, what's the point in asking for them?

I give credence on a case by case basic. Amished apparently believes DB

[Kairyuu]

Votecount 5 of Day 1:

(

The “

Sleeping>Studying

” Votecount

)

1.

forbiddanlight

(0):
2.

Netopalis

(0):
3.

Amished

(0):
4.

fuzzylightning

(0):
5.

Konowa

(0):
6.

Shotty to the Body

(0):
7.

Chaco

(0):
8.

MafiaSSK

(1):

MafiaSSK

9.

Looker

(2):

saberwolf, Amished

10.

kikuchiyo

(0):
11.

Doombunny9

(2):

kikuchiyo, fuzzylightning

12.

saberwolf

(3):

Shotty to the Body, Chaco, forbiddanlight

Not voting

(4):

Netopalis, Looker, Doombunny9, Konowa

With 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to send someone to hell.

Deadline for D1 will hit Friday, October 23, at 8pm EST. This is a fixed deadline, so it will not be extended barring extreme circumstances.

fuzzylightning is being prodded again. If he does not respond to this prod or requires another prod in the course of this game Day I will replace him.

[kikuchiyo]

536 is a bit silly. I think the implication there was clear. Its an easy fakeclaim as scum because scum could easily slide by with a reasonable number according to the flavor.

[Amished]

@Forb: Look at the theme; there's clearly pro-town and anti-town vampires in the Hellsing mythos. To let a townie know how many people are vampires makes more sense than to let the scum know, especially considering we don't actually know what we're up against (could make a case for the manufactured vampires, the nazi's, and a couple other things that we're "against"). That's why I believe DB.

[Amished]

Unvote
Vote: Saberwolf

(L-3)

[Chaco]

Yeah, I gotta admit after looking back over it, that's a rather shoddy claim. Either he's holding out on another ability he has, or he's lying.

[forbiddanlight]

@Forb: Look at the theme; there's clearly pro-town and anti-town vampires in the Hellsing mythos. To let a townie know how many people are vampires makes more sense than to let the scum know, especially considering we don't actually know what we're up against (could make a case for the manufactured vampires, the nazi's, and a couple other things that we're "against"). That's why I believe DB.

There are good and bad vampires. However, I suspect the scum are vampires and Alucard's a red herring if he's in this game at all.

You misunderstood my argument, again.

I
Am
Saying
That
Doombunny
Is
A
Vampire
Goon.

That he has NO power, and that he's just going to tell us a true or false number of his scum group tomorrow.

536 is a bit silly. I think the implication there was clear. Its an easy fakeclaim as scum because scum could easily slide by with a reasonable number according to the flavor.

Thank you. At least you understand.

[Kairyuu]

Albert B. Rampage replaces saberwolf, effective immediately.

Welcome him to the game everyone!

[forbiddanlight]

Hi ABR

Unvote, Vote ABR

[Amished]

So, since you feel DB is a goon, you think he'll tell the truth about anything and it's worth leaving him alive since you're not voting for him?

[forbiddanlight]

So, since you feel DB is a goon, you think he'll tell the truth about anything and it's worth leaving him alive since you're not voting for him?

I think he'll have to pick something realistic. It'll be WIFOM after that but we can mind a little data out of what he says.

And on the offchance he IS town we have solid data.