stark wrote:Are you saying that KK was trying to bus his partner D1?
Entirely possible. When looking at voting trends D1 wagons tend to carry the most weight, mainly because they hold the most flips. Being early on a scum wagon can really help you ride to endgame.
stark wrote:Are you saying that KK was trying to bus his partner D1?
Entirely possible. When looking at voting trends D1 wagons tend to carry the most weight, mainly because they hold the most flips. Being early on a scum wagon can really help you ride to endgame.
So you're saying that the scum devised a plan:
Step 1: Convince SB to fakeclaim Miller D1
Step 2: Hard-bus her when she claims
Step 3: Watch SB flip scum, ride D1 scumcatch to the end
Isn't it a great way to hedge your bet? Either SB lives and gets to spring her trap or SB gets lynched but KK can use his place on the wagon as defense against anything.
stark wrote:Step 1: Convince SB to fakeclaim Miller D1
Step 2: Hard-bus her when she claims
Step 3: Watch SB flip scum, ride D1 scumcatch to the end
True story. I once won a game as scum doing
exactly
that.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
"She's sort of like a quantum computer, her reads exist in multiple states at once. u have to take into account the other dimensions." - Morning Tweet
Im actually feeling better for the first time since early last weekend, fever back under 100 and whatnot, so im going to try and make a small run on catching up in this game. I curse you all for putting up 20 pages in that time
I could use a dose of reflective potion myself. Sounds good.
Paraphrasing a role PM takes seconds, fabricating a good fakeclaim takes an eternity.
"Metadiving DGB is like playing Roblox" - T3
"She's sort of like a quantum computer, her reads exist in multiple states at once. u have to take into account the other dimensions." - Morning Tweet
If you feel SB is town who won't survive the night, you should be unvoting..
On the flip side of the hard bus day one, in emerald city mafia, which KK just finished, he claimed miller as scum and had another scum member try to bus him resulting in her being killed and he being a confirmed town miller for the entire game. It happens, and KK would absolutely know the plan.
Ok, no momentum for the bunny. (I don't like waiting a day when we're going to be hitting power role and I don't like pre-planning lynches, but whatever). I'll see where I can park my vote.
Heh, I already said: I think if she's scum, we should lynch her now. And the reasons for her being scum haven't changed. But she's either scum who should die today or, if she's town, she's town who probably won't survive the night. So our plan for her towniness tomorow probably wouldn't work.
Besides, I don't buy benmage at all. So that's not where my vote would go if I unvoted!
I want to make sure I understand what is going on here before I try and spend too much time picking apart something while missing the entire point, since it really is an annoyance I like to avoid.
Ok, the first big debate that happens seems to follow the following arguments;
-Spy targeted SB last night, he appears as ‘dead’ but can still talk and apparently vote today.
-When SB gets pressed on ‘did anything happen’, she shuns off the question, which I thought was totally a legitimate move. While I don’t think spy is scum, as any brand of town killing role would have had to be stupid to target him, this response from SB looks very natural to me.
-Spy claims he is basically a JOAT with uncontrollable actions (ok that totally should have been my role, ive had that and something almost identical). Now he made an action which he thinks should of killed SB, but he ‘died’ instead.
Ah ok, I forgot about the whole SB asking cops to target her D1 there. The call out from Spy makes a little more sense now. And why the hell are people wagoning Spy? Ive had this exact role once before (had six unknown actions; JK, vig, RB, doc, hide and make DV), its hard to explain how it works, but it was a town role there, and given what is happening here, im going to put my money on it still being a town role. Starting to wish my power was ‘vig entire wagon’
This game hurts the mind and soul, its something like Spy thinks SB killed him, so half the town votes spy for claiming a random JOAT? What the hell really? I do not understand that logic, I can understand SC voting for something role based, but everyone else is dense, sheeping, scum or some combination of all three. Back to the depressingnessess…
Ohhhhhhhhhhh! Ok. Spy isn’t a JOAT but an inventor that doesn’t know what he gives out. Amazingly enough I have had that exact role too, in a game of spy’s.
Ok, so I think I have down about what happened yesterday regarding Spy-SB
First – Spy targeted SB with a black potion. SB did not target anyone.
Second – SB gained an ability. Spy got stumped or something.
Third – Spy thinks SB killed him somehow, SB claims she didn’t do anything.
HOW DO PEOPLE COME TO THE VOTE SPY CONCLUSION FROM THIS!?
Im actually a little surprised so many people seem to be in the vote SB town as well. I guess I can see it if you think of SB as a PGO type role for the scum, but I don’t see it as highly likely either, well maybe the vote for spy too. It can be inferred that Spy likely gave an ability, but until then, I sure wouldn’t claim to of gotten something if a stumped player asked.
Ok now there is a fourth? I thought there was only three parts to this thing.
@SC – Do you just duplicate the role or do you steal the role?
Oh ok, there is no fourth due to what the ability is. I still want to vig the spy wagon however.
So hey, why is there no milk wagon forming right now? We have someone basically pushing the spy wagon on things that I cant really figure out, and I just read those pages (I think its for the claim, -est ending and possibly thinking he doesn’t give stuff out?). If SB has a one shot ability, they have to use it on a believable target regardless of alignment, not doing so, or possibly even having proof of done so, just results in a lynch. Best case scenario we get a few alignments out of it, worst case, we lynch milk-scum before SB-scum.
Tired
Break time
10 pages to go
Damn you all for being confusing
Someone explain the Spy wagon if it hasn’t been already
Benmage has already claimed his power sucks in an attempt to buy town points, so you should vote there SC.
Yeah - so has chamber, but I think I only want to vote him because I don't like his playstyle. Lets go Benmage then.
unvote, vote benmage
What's with the 'oh this game, this thread eats at my soul, I want to claw my eyes out, everyone is stoopid' posts? There's been about 5 different players making similar comments since the start of D2 and it's seriously irritating. My feet are getting wet from the puddle of tears. ><
Llama - I steal the role for the NEXT night. So N1 I touch blah, at the start of D2 I get told what the role I stole was (if any) and N2 I get to either use the role or touch someone else. They are blocked from using their ability N2.
There was another question about my role but I can't remember if I've answered it - I'm not sure if constantly talking about it now we've identified the Spyrex confusion is pro-town, really. I think I've already signed myself up for some deathing.
