The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

[Sajin]

He asked for your opinion, not a relative ranking.

And yet I hope it would be easy to infer from his position on the list that I'd be against his lynch anytime soon.

He is not asking that you think he is town or scum. Everyone gets that.

He (and others) want to know: WHY?

Added to this: Why do you want to post a list and not provide reasons? Taking a stance without reason is scummy.

unvote; Vote: Chamber

@Spyrex/all- Yes your theory sucks. In fact, the whole -er theory sucks. The only observation that holds true is that everyone's role names start with "The". Anything beyond that I am viewing as a mass rolefishing attempt to get people to say one way or another what abilities they may or may not have.

@Serial- Are you told what the ability you absorbed is or just that you received one?

@VP- If you want my vote somewhere else you will need to summarize a case. Not just call for it. Its very hard for me to respond to piecemeal quotes with one liners.

[dramonic]

Well see, I'm third party and need to get dramonic, Papa Zito, milkshake, Sajin and SerialClergyman killed to win. Everyone else was just random.org'ed

Unvote
Vote: Chamber

I don't like third-parties. Especially not those that want to kill me.

[stark]

I'm not super into all of the arguments regarding SB this, SB that. The thing that bothers me is how fervently SB encouraged cops to "Investigate her to test their sanity". I might be mistaken, but I have never seen a claimed miller do this before.

That, combined with what happened to Spyrex makes me more and more sure that SB has some trap ability.

We just need to get something done today.

Vote: SB

[dramonic]

Well see, I'm third party and need to get dramonic, Papa Zito, milkshake, Sajin and SerialClergyman killed to win. Everyone else was just random.org'ed

Unvote
Vote: Chamber

I don't like third-parties. Especially not those that want to kill me.

Additionally, unless you have some kind of killing power killing five players by yourself is ridiculous and a load of hogwash.

[stark]

Well see, I'm third party and need to get dramonic, Papa Zito, milkshake, Sajin and SerialClergyman killed to win. Everyone else was just random.org'ed

Unvote
Vote: Chamber

I don't like third-parties. Especially not those that want to kill me.

Additionally, unless you have some kind of killing power killing five players by yourself is ridiculous and a load of hogwash.

ITT dramonic wins the Sense of Humor Award

[Papa Zito]

Well see, I'm third party and need to get dramonic, Papa Zito, milkshake, Sajin and SerialClergyman killed to win. Everyone else was just random.org'ed

Unvote
Vote: Chamber

I don't like third-parties. Especially not those that want to kill me.

Oh FFS.

I'm with SpyreX. This game.

[dramonic]

While I find your mocking me pretty pointless, unless Chamber can stop playing dumb and give remotely intelligent answers I'm more than fine with his lynch.

[VP Baltar]

@VP- If you want my vote somewhere else you will need to summarize a case. Not just call for it. Its very hard for me to respond to piecemeal quotes with one liners.

Well, I think it has been pretty clear if you were reading the back and forth with him I have been having. Anyhow, the main reason is that I think he copying others' bad reasoning for getting onto the Spyrex wagon (ie flavor, er theory, etc.) in an effort to get on an easy wagon. When he was called on this, he couldn't logically explain his own reasoning for voting in the first place.

He is scum, you should vote for him.

SB wagon still confounds me and I think there are much better options out there.

[SerialClergyman]

Vp, why? You were all for a miller lynch all game?

[VP Baltar]

I'm saying she should be eliminated before she gets to endgame, be that by a lynch or vig, but I don't even see her being a miller as people's reasoning for being on the lynch. Lots of players are largely hopping on the wagon for convoluted and regurgitated reasoning as far as I can see. If she really has a cop investigation, then let the scum take care of her. They don't want her outing one of them or confirming an innocent.

Now, I know you are going to say we can only take her word on that, but it is very simple to confirm whether or not she was telling the truth: we lynch her or vig her after she reveals the investigation. If she flips what she says she is, it's likely she was telling the truth. If she flips scum, then all the better and we can assess her "investigation" from there.

There is no point lynching her today over people who have actually acted scummy. The only benefit to the SB wagon that I see is if she flips town (and I'm inclined to think she might), we are going to be able to look back and pick all the scumbags off without much trouble.

[SerialClergyman]

Mmm.

Ok. 3 am here so I'm going to sleep on it. Remember if we don't lynch sb, we lose a different role. Instead, so it's not quite a simple a tradeoff as it would be otherwise.

[VP Baltar]

Mmm.

It's delicious, I know.

Ok. 3 am here so I'm going to sleep on it. Remember if we don't lynch sb, we lose a different role. Instead, so it's not quite a simple a tradeoff as it would be otherwise.

But if she's really a cop, then only a very stupid scum would let her live to either out them or confirm someone else. I see no downside to letting her live through at least the night.

[Papa Zito]

Now, I know you are going to say we can only take her word on that, but it is very simple to confirm whether or not she was telling the truth: we lynch her or vig her after she reveals the investigation. If she flips what she says she is, it's likely she was telling the truth. If she flips scum, then all the better and we can assess her "investigation" from there.

I like this plan, except for the part where she's roleblocked (if actually town).

[dramonic]

I agree we should let her live. If she makes it we get a confirmation. If she doesn't... maybe what blocks/kills her will end up like SpyreX.

[milkshake]

I like this plan, except for the part where she's roleblocked (if actually town).

And (although this goes without saying), if she's scum she can just innocent report an innocent person.

[dramonic]

but that's not a bad thing milkshake.

[stark]

Now, I know you are going to say we can only take her word on that, but it is very simple to confirm whether or not she was telling the truth: we lynch her or vig her after she reveals the investigation. If she flips what she says she is, it's likely she was telling the truth. If she flips scum, then all the better and we can assess her "investigation" from there.

I like this plan, except for the part where she's roleblocked (if actually town).

unvote

That's probably best.

Let's lynch Rosso

Vote: Rosso Carne

[dramonic]

Yes, kill the closest to confirmed town, it's definitely optimal <_<

[Benmage]

The following people need to post immediately: tubby, Sajin, Plum, Llama, SocioPath, Kscope, Vaya, Kise....preferably with a vote for Benmage.

Chamber, what are your thoughts ona benmage lynch? (God, I hate when people make me campaign this hard to lynch scum)

Ever campaign this hard on a townie?

You and vollkan just keep saying my logic isnt sound. But saying one thing, and illustrating is another thing, and you've both failed to illustrate my faults.

[milkshake]

but that's not a bad thing milkshake.

So we lynch her tomorow no matter what. Then if she flips town we have a confirmed innocent, but if she flips scum we have nothing. If she's town she could also concievably have investigated a guilty person. If we lynch her now, if she flips town we have nothing, and if she flips scum we have nothing (except a scum lynch, just like if we lynch her tomorow).

Right, so we're

possibly

getting a confirmed cop investigation out of the deal. I guess if she's town she'll probably die or get roleblocked in the night though. So if she's scum she might claim she got roleblocked... well it still wouldn't be any different from lynching her today.

So basically, delaying lynch Snow_Bunny would mean we would have to lynch someone today with less information rather than tomorow with more information, but it is concievable that if town Snow_Bunny survives the night investigation in tact, we'll get an investigation.

Ok, sorry to think out loud so noisily.

If

we actually follow through with this, I'm happy to wait until tomorow. However, here's my problem: I feel like tomorow we might have a lot of better information to make a good lynch from, whereas today I don't know who we would lynch.

[VP Baltar]

1) No.

2) I disagree.

[Benmage]

1) No.

Well glad I can be your first time.

bam bam bam bpew bpew bpew

[dramonic]

Bicker bicker.

Bicker?

Bicker!

Bicker bicker bicker.

[dramonic]

I still endorse the Bm lynch if Chamber can give a serious reason for his reads

[Snow_Bunny]

I like VP as well. If somehow I survive this night, tomorrow I claim my results and then die lynched.