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Post Post #325 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:56 pm

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Vote almightybob


There is merit in this case. He possibly replaced out after being sickened by his partner's behavior.
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Post Post #326 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:57 pm

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As in, maybe they got in a fight or something.
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Post Post #327 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:22 pm

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Any comments on Fitz's short analysis of your day 1 play?
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Post Post #328 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:28 pm

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Oh damn, I confused this game with Open 162--Trendy and Subversive Mafia ~~Day 2. In this game, my suspects were havingfitz and PE.

Unvote, vote havingfitz


HF makes some good points against me, things for which I have no defense, however I do think he is scum.
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Post Post #329 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:42 pm

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... really? That's all we get? You "think he's scum"? That post almost warranted my vote, but I'm trying to cut back on being QUITE so crazy throwing around my vote. Explain, because while "gut" may be good for you, it should not warrant a vote from anyone else. At least try.
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Post Post #330 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:09 pm

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What is your take on this post, almightybob? ^_^
DeathNote wrote:...OMG didn't give us anything to go off of for serious votes.
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Post Post #331 (ISO) » Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:26 pm

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To be honest Albert, that defence is almost as unimpressive as OMGL's. I'm gonna need more than that.

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Post Post #332 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:28 am

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Post Post #333 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:02 am

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I'm sorry I have to keep repeating it, but I wouldn't have to if you just addressed it.... o_O;;
Unless your response is still "I don't know"?? You can claim he thought OMGLyncher was obvscum all you like, but the fact of the matter remains is that DeathNote said that he didn't find anything seriously scummy about OMGLyncher, then abruptly changed his mind and voted him~! Honestly, you're "inferring" his thoughts from all these random posts and ignoring what he outright said... that's just strange. >_<;

I think I've made it pretty clear that I found that post key, (the others can be interpreted several ways...), but I don't like how you keep ignoring or avoiding it..... Maybe I should make my text bigger? ^_^

I'm too lazy to go back and reread right now but iirc DeathNote's posts go something like this:

1) He follow the crowd and claims that OMGLyncher is his one and only suspect.
2)
He says that there is nothing "serious" in OMGLyncher to vote for.

3) People correct him and tell him, yes, there is.
4) He follows the crowd again and says oh right, there is. I think he only remarks that he may be noobscum after everyone else says that may be the case.

My vote is staying where is! >_<;

I'll post in more detail later on when I'm not sleepy! ^_^


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ON ABR:

Seems like everyone is commenting on that last post! I guess I'm the only one who liked it~~~ ^_^
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Post Post #334 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:59 am

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... seriously?




Right.
T-Chan wrote:You can claim he thought OMGLyncher was obvscum all you like, but the fact of the matter remains is that DeathNote said that he didn't find anything seriously scummy about OMGLyncher
False. He
repeatedly
said he thought OMGL was noobscum. I have quoted these parts several times. See the bottom of this post, or my other posts.
He also said, in the same post that you keep repeating, that he thought OMGL was "the best option" for a vote.
T-Chan wrote:then abruptly changed his mind and voted him~!
False. His vote was on OMGL from Page 5 until the end of D1, with the only exception being the unvote-vote section. I covered this in my post 318.
T-Chan wrote:Honestly, you're "inferring" his thoughts from all these random posts and ignoring what he outright said... that's just strange.
In fact, it seems like
you
are ignoring the DN posts that contradict your own viewpoint, and focusing on the one post that seems to support it.


Sentences which suggest DN thinks OMGL/Ray
isn't
scum

DeathNote wrote:OMG didn't give us anything to go off of for serious votes.
Sentences which suggest DN thinks OMGL/Ray
is
scum

DeathNote wrote:The slips I am looking for, is what Lyncher is starting to do, exaggerating little things and trying to make everyone seem scummy.
DeathNote wrote:@OMGLyncher- Lets see...
Contradiction of posts- check
Active Lurking- check
Admitted to being a good choice for lynch atm- check
DeathNote wrote:At the moment, I only have one suspect...

Lyncher as indicated in my previous post.
DeathNote wrote:If
[Ray]
defends, it would be against OMG's nooby/scummy play
DeathNote wrote:I think your LoS is fine as some of my suspicions match yours (excluding how you put yourself on town).
[Bob's note: this is said to RayFrost]
DeathNote wrote:Because Ray was replacing in for someone who seemed noob scum.

Basically, it's your one "nothing serious" quote against the several that I have pointed out which document that he thought the opposite.


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Post Post #335 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:12 am

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Just spotted this:


T-Chan, post 96 wrote:Another thing I noticed....
OMGLyncher wrote:Woah that is a scary number of questions (I guess I deserve them).

...

Keep the noose around my neck for now: I need to earn my way out of this suspicion. :oops:
In other words~~ my concerns are legitimate, and you seem to realise this! ^_^
T-Chan, next post, wrote:I'm happy with my vote for now~~ ^_^

So when OMGL concedes that his accuser's concerns are legitimate and offers no defence, you're happy with your vote on him.

ABR wrote:HF makes some good points against me, things for which I have no defense, however I do think he is scum.
T-Chan wrote:ON ABR:
Seems like everyone is commenting on that last post! I guess I'm the only one who liked it~~~ ^_^
But when ABR concedes that his accuser's concerns are legitimate and offers no defence, you're happy with his post.


Que??
Explain please.
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Post Post #336 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:54 am

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ON ABR:
Seems like everyone is commenting on that last post! I guess I'm the only one who liked it~~~ ^_^
Yeah, explain this. You're buddying pretty hard for no apparent reason.
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Post Post #337 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:12 am

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Albert B. Rampage wrote:Oh damn, I confused this game with Open 162--Trendy and Subversive Mafia ~~Day 2. In this game, my suspects were havingfitz and PE.

Unvote, vote havingfitz


HF makes some good points against me, things for which I have no defense, however I do think he is scum.
OK…thanks for acknowledging my good points. Here is a little elaboration on them:

ABR starts his entry into the game by disputing RayFrost on a minor issue (RF claiming to have selected the scummiest player to replace). Then says he will suspect TC if RF flips town (which he did). Then he FoS RF and Votes Roo? Pressures RF for a a claim..urges people to vote. PE to vote. Votes RF and still pressures him for a claim. RF is lynched. Turns up town. What happened to suspicions on TC if Ray flipped town? What caused to to stop suspecting Roo? All of a sudden it's either Pablo or I that or scum. Still thinks TC has more to answer for than Roo. So ABR votes AlmightyBob? Wait....he meant to vote Me and his other suspect is PE. What? So you've obviously picked me in the Pablo or HF scenario and I've shot up past TC and Roo. And now PE is in the mix. (or did you mean PM?) Or do you know which game you are in? or are you v/LA? Kind of...? :?
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Post Post #338 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:33 am

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almightybob wrote:Just spotted this:


T-Chan, post 96 wrote:Another thing I noticed....
OMGLyncher wrote:Woah that is a scary number of questions (I guess I deserve them).

...

Keep the noose around my neck for now: I need to earn my way out of this suspicion. :oops:
In other words~~ my concerns are legitimate, and you seem to realise this! ^_^
T-Chan, next post, wrote:I'm happy with my vote for now~~ ^_^

So when OMGL concedes that his accuser's concerns are legitimate and offers no defence, you're happy with your vote on him.
Please try not to quote half of it... the point of that post was the second half! ^_^
me wrote:
OMGLyncher wrote:If I had posted with what I first thought, thereby passing your criteria for activity, I would have posted stupidly and replaced your baseless accusations with legitimate concern.
But one post later, my accusations are baseless. Which is it??? @_@;;
I was pointing out a contradiction... what are you trying to make me look like?? @_@;

As for ABR's post, I like it because I do! Why not? It's provoked a number of humourous reactions~ ^_^
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Post Post #339 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:41 am

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Actually, almightybob, after replacing in, what are your thoughts on each player? ^_^ I don't like PBPA in general, but I think it's good manners and helpful if you just entered the game!

On the DN case:
Wow... he does seem serious doesn't he! I wonder why he would say there's nothing serious then to vote for, then! ^_^
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Post Post #340 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:56 am

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RayFrost - 5 (Tororingu-chan, PaltryExcuse, DeathNote, Albert B. Rampage, havingfitz)

I think both scum were on this wagon.

I'm not scum. DeathNote wouldn't have asked for a replacement from a winning position IMO. Toringu-chan was pushing for a RayFrost lynch since the beginning.

So that leaves two players: fitz and PE. That's who I think the scum are.

There's good reason to suspect fitz already:
PaltryExcuse wrote:That doesn't make your intentions clear at all for me. If the town doesn't want him lynched, they'll respond in kind. It seems to me as though you shied away from attack and hid behind 'what the town wants'. From what I understand, it was the 'what the town wanted' that convinced you.
Fitz was also wayyy too keen on lynching Ray when his so-called number one suspect was Pablo.

As for PE, he's been pretty wishy washy towards Fitz all game.
PaltryExcuse wrote:In the argument of fitz vs. Pablo:
I'm currently leaning towards a vote for Pablo.
Pablo's early play was contradictory, or at the very least confusing.
In the end though, he takes his chance with helping who I think is his buddy out. They're scum backing each other to victory.
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Post Post #341 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:34 am

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T-chan wrote:Please try not to quote half of it... the point of that post was the second half! ^_^
Excuse me while I enjoy the irony of this.
Anyway, the point stands (
fellow Townies note
) - OMGL and ABR have basically done exactly the same thing, yet T-chan votes for the now-confirmed Town and supports the unconfirmed one.

T-Chan wrote:As for ABR's post, I like it because I do! Why not? It's provoked a number of humourous reactions~ ^_^
Because it's just as poor an effort as OMGL's defence, which you chose to vote him for.
T-chan wrote:Actually, almightybob, after replacing in, what are your thoughts on each player? ^_^ I don't like PBPA in general, but I think it's good manners and helpful if you just entered the game!
Unsubtle jab at my Mafia etiquette is noted.
I haven't had time to summarise my thoughts yet, I've been busy repeatedly responding to DN's now-infamous line.



I'll get round to my thoughts of the rest of the Town soon, probably some time tomorrow - I'm off to the pub for some table football and beer :)
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Post Post #342 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:35 am

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Albert, while I don't disagree 100% with your analysis (good call bringing up the lynchers on Day 1), you're headed into very grey territory by pairing people together before we know either scum.
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Post Post #343 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:39 am

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I didn't vote OMGLyncher because he didn't defend himself? @_@?
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Post Post #344 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:40 am

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Anyway almightybob, I'm looking forward to your PBPA! ^_^
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Post Post #345 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:47 am

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Pablo Molinero wrote:Albert, while I don't disagree 100% with your analysis (good call bringing up the lynchers on Day 1), you're headed into very grey territory by pairing people together before we know either scum.
True, and there's no concrete link between the two. However, we know for a fact that there has to be at least ONE scum on the wagon, since you are the only one alive who wasn't on that wagon, and I'm betting that fitz is the scum over PE, if only because PE raised good points against fitz yesterday. His abrupt and unforeseen support of fitz over you is something that can be debated after we lynch fitz.
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Post Post #346 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:56 am

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almightybob wrote:Anyway, the point stands (
fellow Townies note
) - OMGL and ABR have basically done exactly the same thing, yet T-chan votes for the now-confirmed Town and supports the unconfirmed one.
And this makes perfect sense, because she realized that lurking
wasn't
a scumtell. Therefore her reasons for voting OGML no longer justify voting me.
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Post Post #347 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:05 am

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T-chan has a fun exercise for everyone! ^_^
Reread the thread and replace every one of DeathNote's posts with "I agree". I think it will still be in context!
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Post Post #348 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:07 am

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Tororingu-chan wrote:T-chan has a fun exercise for everyone! ^_^
Reread the thread and replace every one of DeathNote's posts with "I agree". I think it will still be in context!
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Post Post #349 (ISO) » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:25 am

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3 hours in the back of an airplane, loudly spouting random words I don't understand at wild 16-yo girls from Tokyo did this to me.
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