Open 171- Carbon 14, Part 2!! Over!!

[dramonic]

Scigatt, I have no benifit to claim cop if I'm scum. If I'm scum I'm going to eb counterclaimed and we'll lynch one cop. If we get the wrong one, we lynch the other. It's lose-lose for scum.

[Scigatt]

Scigatt, I have no benifit to claim cop if I'm scum. If I'm scum I'm going to eb counterclaimed and we'll lynch one cop. If we get the wrong one, we lynch the other. It's lose-lose for scum.

Assuming that you are scum(for this entire paragraph), you likely would have lost already, or very soon, had you not claimed. What you did was to buy some time, time in which you hoped anything could happen.

[/assumption]I gave you the benefit of the doubt by unvoting. However, there are things that bother me about you(Khamisa's protests, mostly, but also other things like the somewhat peculiar timing of your claim(post 216 instead of 214), both of those occuring after Alduskkel said it was okay to claim with a useful innocent result(post 204), and your D1 slip.), so I'm keeping a 'rearguard' suspicion on you. I will look up other suspects, though.

[dramonic]

Having the choice between a 5% chance of victory and a 0% chance of victory, I'd pick the 5% anytime. Claiming as scum is suicidal.

[semioldguy]

I am not the Cop.

I am more suspicious of Snow_Bunny than I am of Alduskkel. She has been quiet most of the game and the removal of her vote from Khamisa, even though it was a random vote, didn't really come with a reason or a vote somewhere else and it seemed as she was just making an excuse to get her vote off.

When the vote starts swinging more toward Khamisa and away from dramonic vs. Scigatt, Snow_Bunny becomes even more quiet. Yes, she was sick, but toward deadline this was surely not the case as Alduskkel noted. I would really like to hear more detailed thoughts from her on the two of us.

The strongest point I see against Alduskkel is that he could not have prevented Khamisa's lynch. Not too sure what to think of the fact that he brought it up himself first, but speculation on that likely won't help.

Vote: Snow_Bunny

@Snow_Bunny
What role did you have in the previous game before we restarted?

@Alduskkel
I think that analysis is an accurate representation of the events. Khamisa didn't really give much to go on, and Snow_Bunny was not much better. I'd like to go back and note down your play during all of that, but I will do that later as I want to check in to my other games and the doctor says I shouldn't be in a sitting position for too long due to my back. Fortunately I have more free time than I know what to do with for the next week though (hooray disability pay!) and I'll be back hopefully later tonight or tomorrow to do this.

[Scigatt]

Let me look over the tread and reorient myself for a while.

[Snow_Bunny]

I am not the Cop.

I am more suspicious of Snow_Bunny than I am of Alduskkel. She has been quiet most of the game and the removal of her vote from Khamisa, even though it was a random vote, didn't really come with a reason or a vote somewhere else and it seemed as she was just making an excuse to get her vote off.

When the vote starts swinging more toward Khamisa and away from dramonic vs. Scigatt, Snow_Bunny becomes even more quiet. Yes, she was sick, but toward deadline this was surely not the case as Alduskkel noted. I would really like to hear more detailed thoughts from her on the two of us.

The strongest point I see against Alduskkel is that he could not have prevented Khamisa's lynch. Not too sure what to think of the fact that he brought it up himself first, but speculation on that likely won't help.

Vote: Snow_Bunny

@Snow_Bunny
What role did you have in the previous game before we restarted?

I was VT, and remain VT. Why this matters again?

I did not post anything near the deadline because I had nothing useful to add. Neither Khamisa's nor dram's wagons were appealing to me. What else I was going to say? I unvoted her because my vote was purely random. Would you have preferred my vote to stay where it was? Why?

Btw, your vote jumping is scummy. You voted for Khamisa without much of a case (Post 136). Then, you voted Cass, again with much of a case. Rather opportunistic to me. It seemed you tried to bus Khamisa, then moved for a better lynch for your team.

Vote: SoG

[Alduskkel]

S_B, are you trying to say you had

zero

suspects at the end of Day 1? If you had any suspicions, you should have voiced them and voted. Instead you chose to ignore the thread and quietly let it sit until deadline.

[dramonic]

Unvote

I'm going to reread the three suspects ^^

[semioldguy]

I asked what role you had previously to compare play-styles between the two games. You said in this game wasn't as appealing as it was the first time and were having trouble getting into it.

[dramonic]

Also, I was seer last game.

Odds love me, I was the efficient cop twice ^^

[semioldguy]

I thought I was the Seer last game... must have been the cop. Deleted my PM from that one.

[Scigatt]

As I said before, I was Werewolf. While we are on this topic, here's me old role PM(which I promised a long time ago):

You are a werewolf goon, along with your partner XXXXX who is also a werewolf goon.

Each night you may submit a name to me through PM or in quicktopic to be killed. The last name submitted will be the person chosen to die.

You may only talk with your partner during the Night Phase. Communication at any other period of time is risking a mod-kill depending on the severity of the offense. Seriously, only talk at night.

You win when you become at least half of the town, or nothing can prevent the same.

The link to your QuickTopic is here:
http://www.quicktopic.com/43/H/cegMFYWs5a3

You may talk during confirmations, I will let you know in QT when discussion has to cease.

Please confirm in thread here:
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1855839

Also, I was the one who requested that N1 be extended.

[dramonic]

why?

[Scigatt]

why?

I was starting up a new game and I didn't want to have to get it up and running and play this game at the same time.

[Snow_Bunny]

Again, what's the point of discussing previous roles?

[semioldguy]

To potentially compare playstyles. I think that question has been answered a couple times now.

[Alduskkel]

SB, why'd you ignore post 231?

[Snow_Bunny]

My bad. No, I had suspects, but nothing regarding the coming deadline. And truth be told, I had no motivation whatsoever to start a discussion so near the deadline, specially after coming out from my sickness. Blame me if you will, but as someone else said, if I was scum, I had the chance to help Khamisa and probably myslynch, and I didn't. What does that tell you?

In the other hand, we have SoG rather scummy play... So, yeah.

[Alduskkel]

Why didn't you at least vote?

[Snow_Bunny]

What would have been the point?

[dramonic]

showing your suspicions

[semioldguy]

Blame me if you will, but as someone else said, if I was scum, I had the chance to help Khamisa and probably myslynch, and I didn't. What does that tell you?

This doesn't really tell me much of anything to help your case.

If you are using this logic and also voting me it doesn't really makes sense to use that as a defense because I also could have voted to keep Khamisa from being lynched. Using this as a point to your defense is hypocritical considering your vote.

Keeping your suspicions to from the town is scummy. Even if you liked neither wagon, voicing your suspicions is pro-town. Having no motivation to have discussion during an impending deadline is scummy.

[dramonic]

Hmm.

Vote: Snow_Bunny

My secon pick would be Aldu.

[Snow_Bunny]

So, I'm at L-1? Nice. Any roads, I don't think I can prevent my lynch, as the wagon is based on something I didn't want to do at the end of D1 and that can be easily interpreted as scummy (although I still say that I could have provoked a myslynch if I were scum, but well.) I recommend you to look after SoG tomorrow, then. Really, if you read him on ISO you'll see.

[afatchic]

Vote Count!!

At the top of next page! Didn't want it in the last post of a page.