lol, if you intend to twist everything i say, and aren't going to accept my word for anything, what exactly is the point in me talking to you? Much less, spend my time compiling a case, which will have minimal value.jasonT1981 wrote:So again.. where is your case.
No appeal to emotion on my behalf,
not a scum tell on me
Simply asking you once again to post your case point for point on why I am sum.
confirmed scum as you say, and have since backtracked on.
How, exactally, would that change anything?hitogoroshi 773 wrote:I figured that you'd be re-reading the archive in a lot more deal than any of us (because it would be your first time) and as such you'd be best qualified to post anything that Neto said that reads much different in light of his being confirmed doctor.
Better than "Bi" by some margin, but not as good as "Xi", "Wii", "Ui", "Iv", or "Six".Maemuki 774 wrote:@Vi, I'll call you Bee from now on. :< *feels insulted.* Just kidding. Although I will call you Bee.
That was an obvious joke question >.>Maemuki 774 wrote:Also, if Netopalis posts, he'll use his "bah!" post. Either way, why would the bah post be useful?
Okay. Next question: you found Jason scummy enough to vote for at the end of D1, but your first and only vote (unless I missed something...correct me if I'm wrong) on D2 is on DT. Did something happen to change your opinion?Nikanor wrote: I was also of the opinion that Jason was more scummy than you, so if I thought I might as well try.
Hehe...interesting gut-based theory. Maybe you are thinking back to high school...all the good townies were in English class, studying their grammar. However, the adolescent mafiosos were in the bathroom smoking, so they don't know the difference between an adjective and an adverb!Nikanor wrote: Yeah, I was going mostly on gut for Jason late yesterday. Although the reason for my gut reaction could easily be that Jason has terrible grammar (My gut activates on people with bad grammar, for some reason of which I am unaware).
Hey, did you just call me slow?? Oh well, at least I don't share a name w/a crappy text editor...Vi wrote:@CSLlowbunny: What do you think of the people on your own wagon from D1?
Eh...I wish.Vi wrote:Also, if you are the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog and prefer to decapitate people, wouldn't that necessarily imply that you could have eaten CSL's brains?
Noted. And if Mae flips scum...I am sure we will all remember this.DT wrote:753: It only works if you are right. Unless we are all VTs here, if anyone has a target ability you be dead. The only way scum-fake tracker could survive effectively is to track their buddies, basically outing them.
Also YB read the above.
Interesting comment. Do you believe anyone is trying to ride your coat-tails in this game?BM wrote: I dont need to persuade anyone of anything. Anyone expecting to ride my coat-tails, will find themselves thrown in front of a train pretty soon.
In particular I want to know what you're trying to prove by self-voting.DTMaster 778 wrote:@Vi
I think I'm the master of diversionary tactics but I don't get how to answer your question. Someone's township is determined by the town so I can't really answer it well.
If I had to name one thing, it would be not voting on the PR wagons but that's extremely subjective. Why did you want me to comment about my own township?
Not intentionally. And at least I'm not EMACSy-bunny 779 wrote:Hey, did you just call me slow?? Oh well, at least I don't share a name w/a crappy text editor...
1) So it'sy-bunny 779 wrote:The unfortunate thing is, I haven't been refered to as "he" enough times to exceed this game's threshold...and as a result, I cannot transform into the killer rabbit. And sadly, in regular rabbit mode...all I can do to express my displeasure is twitch my nose and thump my feet. Its very inconvenient.
Side note: If I had been able to decapitate him and eat his brains...wouldn't that make me the Zombie Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog?
Do you think he is scum?Nikanor Post 766 wrote:Yeah, I was going mostly on gut for Jason late yesterday. Although the reason for my gut reaction could easily be that Jason has terrible grammar (My gut activates on people with bad grammar, for some reason of which I am unaware).
Haylen = Active lurking.Vi Post 772 wrote:@SevySotten: Who are you suspicious of right nao, and why?
QFT. Also, allow me to direct your attention to an earlier exchange between Nikanor and I:Sotty wrote: I need to re-read once I shake this flu but I would also say Nikanor is starting to climb up my list. He doesn't seem to be doing anything
Nikanor, you do not dispute that lurking isn't a part of your town-meta. I wouldn't be surprised if, based on your previous lack of success as scum, you are changing to a new tactic: lurking.Nikanor, iso 39 wrote:It's because I've been lurking through a good portion of this game.YB wrote: As for other scummy people, outside of Mae, CK, and BM (in that order) there is a person who have been seeming a little "off" to me - Nikanor. This is based solely on meta from an ongoing game he and I were both in (but we are both dead at this point). He was town in that game, and I feel his playstyle is somewhat different in this game. I think he is being more quiet/participating in scum hunting less. Nothing huge...but worth noting.
You can take a look at my meta, if you'd like. I've only flipped scum in three games - one of them is ongoing, but I was obvscum since day one, one of them I didn't even really get a chance to play, and one of them I replaced in as scum and immediately jumped on every bandwagon that formed.
I'm actually pretty bad at playing scum. If I were scum in this game, you'd know it.
Great...you made Richard Stallman go into the corner to cry. Meanie!Vi wrote:Not intentionally. And at least I'm not EMACS Razz
1) When it stops me from being able to decapitate those I want to decapitate, yes!Vi wrote:1) So it's unfortunate that you haven't been misidentified often enough? Confused
2) Can you twitch your ears as well? :3
3) "Zombie" implies that you are undead, which I don't think is the case.
However, I acknowledge that after MJ's agonizing wake zombies have gone way out of style, so I can understand why you wouldn't want to be one.
I hate to deflect, but Haylen, Maemuki, hito and KittyMo are all lurking to a greater degree than I am. Why are you speculating on the reason for my lurking while ignoring theirs?yellowbunny wrote:Nikanor, you do not dispute that lurking isn't a part of your town-meta. I wouldn't be surprised if, based on your previous lack of success as scum, you are changing to a new tactic: lurking. HOS: Nikanor
Best admission to lurkinghito 773 wrote:Sorry for not posting. Because I had posted one page back I thought I was safe, I hadn't realized that that was all the way back on Wednesday. xD
And there's nobody else you're suspicious of...?Nikanor 783 wrote:Vi, I'll answer your question once jason tells us why he is voting BM, and what he thinks of hito's vote on jason. I'm waiting for that to happen because I am suspicious of jason, but I'd like to hear his answer to those questions before making a judgement on him.
Well I'm suspicious of DTM for claiming VT and self-voting an hour before deadline and directly after BM said that self-voting is townie. The fact that his vote is still on himself isn't earning him any points, either.Vi wrote:And there's nobody else you're suspicious of...?
I really don't know what to say about 'your vibes' I'm afraid.Vi wrote:Sotty+7: If you were to place a vote on someone, who would it be?
Rapid follow-up question: Why haven't you placed a vote?
More people should be voting across the board tbh. And because I'm not that great at being a hypocrite--
Vote: hitogoroshi(L-5)
hito has gotten this far mostly by the Awesome! power of active lurking, plus I can't shake the vibe I keep getting from him ofI know something you don't know. Plus--Best admission to lurkinghito 773 wrote:Sorry for not posting. Because I had posted one page back I thought I was safe, I hadn't realized that that was all the way back on Wednesday. xDever~
You are aware it takes more than your vote to make me the lynch of today are you not? you are awfully sure of yourself are you not in making it clear I am the going to be lynched today? You have accused me of tunnel vision on you, but this is awfully tunnel visioned itself is it not? What makes you so sure I am todays lynch?Battle Mage wrote:
You obviously aren't reading. I made it quite clear yesterday (real time) that you were going to be lynched today. Voting Haylen was just an interesting thing to do in the meantime. But you can quit representing me, plz.
BM
Do you not feel me going after BM is scum hunting? Yes, while I admit I am trying to preserve myself in the game (anyone who has been declaired lynch of today would be in this situation) why do you feel the need to answer for BM, seems like coaching to me no?hitogoroshi wrote:Sorry for not posting. Because I had posted one page back I thought I was safe, I hadn't realized that that was all the way back on Wednesday. xD
Jason, his "case" is that you're more concerned with self-preservation than scumhunting and even when he's not starting a bandwagon you're simply yelling at the person attacking you rather than doing anything else. And that's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.jasonT1981 wrote:So BM I am asking... infact no I am now DEMANDING you make a case against me and show how I am indeed 'confirmed scum and will be lynched today'
I demand your case NOW.. no more pussy footing, no more side stepping as you have done, I have asked many times, as have others. I DEMAND your case on me if I am confirmed scum.
vote: JasonT1981
this stands out to me a lot, I ask for his case on me again, as have others and he responds with 'if you are not going to take my word for anything, what is the point in talking to you'Battle Mage wrote:lol, if you intend to twist everything i say, and aren't going to accept my word for anything, what exactly is the point in me talking to you? Much less, spend my time compiling a case, which will have minimal value.jasonT1981 wrote:So again.. where is your case.
No appeal to emotion on my behalf,
not a scum tell on me
Simply asking you once again to post your case point for point on why I am sum.
confirmed scum as you say, and have since backtracked on.
I dont need to persuade anyone of anything. Anyone expecting to ride my coat-tails, will find themselves thrown in front of a train pretty soon.
BM
I'm scumhunting, but not 'only in my mind.' I'm simply doing it in ways other than "I BELIEVE THAT ACTIVITY TO BE SCUMMY. HERE IS A POINTED QUESTION." That approach works sometimes, but it's limited in that the very act of asking the question primes the answerer with the ideal response. So there are other ways that are better in many situations. Ask for clarification without dropping any hint that you found the original incarnation scummy. Ask a question of someone else, and see if the person you're suspicious of reacts to it (or doesn't react to it when you think they should.)Vi wrote:Let me ask the original question in a slightly different way -why are you voting jason?
The rest of your post doesn't answer why you aren't saying anything. You say you'll ask suspicious people questions... but... you aren't doing anything of the sort. Basically and if I'm reading you right you want us to believe you're scumhunting, just in your own mind and not anywhere where we can see it or question it. I don't buy that.
Well, you answer that. You were voting BM because he was attacking you, and then I voted you and now you're voting me. Is it really scum hunting when the criterion for scum is 'voting me'?jasonT1981 wrote:
Do you not feel me going after BM is scum hunting? Yes, while I admit I am trying to preserve myself in the game (anyone who has been declaired lynch of today would be in this situation) why do you feel the need to answer for BM, seems like coaching to me no?
And do you really believe that me defending myself (as you say, self preservation) is reason to vote me? Your vote seems very opertunistic to me
HOS: Hito
That is not coaching in any way. That's explaining why voting someone because they put down an unjustified vote on you when there is no bandwagon and a low vote count is by and large a fallacy. Y'know, that thing you did to BM and then to me.hito wrote: I think the point none of you are getting is if someone (mostly BM that's doing this) casts the first or second vote, it is meaningless except for bandwagon potential, and a vote without rationale, and ergo, without bandwagon potential, is basicially nothing more than a little statement of intent. People reacting to BM's unjustified votes by voting him are missing the entire point - an early vote is ONLY AS STRONG AS IT'S JUSTIFICATION, and so, if there's an incredibly weak vote on you, and you respond with disproportionate force, you're showing that you're a paranoid sort. Now whether or not paranoia is a scum tell is a different question, but I think it's at least a slight one.
And yet I did none of those things. Hmm, it's almost as if there's someJason wrote:this is another example of BM trying to lead the game in his direction, declaring lynches, claiming three is no point in talking to those who don't agree with him' these are all examples of why my vote is where it is at right now.
You're misinterpreting - I was going to modify that with "deliberately", but with your medication I'll give the benefit of the doubt - the meaning of justify. As I said extremely clearly in the mentioned post, scum like to justify their votes with reasonsYou also say scum like to justify there votes with reasons? Hmmm, I think voting without reasoning is more scummier. But thats just me. But then again, you then try to justify your vote as putting me at L-4 aas not putting me in lynch range, so you then are making yourself guilty of being scum are you not? At least according to your own theories?
I don't have anything say but that I disagree. And that plenty being discussed doesn't mean equally plenty for all players!@ hitogoroshi re post 789. what is the difference between lurking and not posting? You where following the thread but didnt feel there was enough to contribute? There is plenty that has been discussed, you are going up further in my scum list right now.
"As of late" being when I voted for you, I assume? Or is it because there was a 3-day span where I didn't post?Right now Hito has leapt up my scum-list and is sticking out like a sore thumb to me. BM, I am still thinking could be very likely scum, but it is his general cockiness of people should do as I say, and declaring people as today's lynch has me thinking that. Hito has been darn right scummy as of late.
unvote: BM
Vote: Hito
