Border of Touhou and Mafia ~ Game Over!

[Xylthixlm]

I actually have absolutely no idea.

[Xylthixlm]

I'm leaning mod error - it says 7 to lynch, so TIH should be L-5 and Vaya should be L-6.

[dramonic]

I'm guessing for a combinaison of the two.

[Pesco47]

Consistent mod error then? It's been like that for 2 vote counts. Either Xyl takes 1 less to lynch or I got my vote doubled by someone that loves me.

[Pesco47]

Testing

Unvote
Vote Pesco

[Zakeri]

Pesco doesn't have the answer for this either. I do.

Last night, I was given the opportunity to give someone a double vote. There are 14 votes in play right now, which makes the majority eight votes instead of seven. Everyone not on the votecount is at L-8, Vaya is at L-7 because he has one vote, and the other two both have two votes on them.

I didn't expect it to have any affect on the majority, but there you go.

Also, I don't have a reason for why I choose to give it to Pesco. It was very likely a subconscious nod to a previous game where we were a scum pair and he could secretly hammer a wagon in addition to his in thread vote.

Cut: I really shouldn't start browsing other websites in the middle of posting here.

[dramonic]

Now that this is solved, we need to do something bout our lurker.

[Sotty7]

It's not that I can determine he is scum from his one and only post, but he is terribly lurking through this game, I want him to build some activity, as he is no help to the town at this point.

Do you really think a lurker lynch is the way to go?

Same question to dramonic

[Xylthixlm]

Vaya's got at least the same chance of being scum as anyone else.

vote: Vaya

Zakeri, one question, which you may answer if you think it is beneficial. By "I was given the opportunity to give someone a double vote" do you mean this was not a normal part of your role?

[Mufasa]

It's not that I can determine he is scum from his one and only post, but he is terribly lurking through this game, I want him to build some activity, as he is no help to the town at this point.

Do you really think a lurker lynch is the way to go?

Same question to dramonic

At this point yes, it will spur more information if Vaya is to start posting. I'm still more than happy to lynch all lurkers.

[Mufasa]

Zakeri, one question, which you may answer if you think it is beneficial. By "I was given the opportunity to give someone a double vote" do you mean this was not a normal part of your role?

Ya sounds rather inventorish to me as well.

[dramonic]

Do you really think a lurker lynch is the way to go?

Not at all. I said we need to do something about Vaya, I wasn't referring to lynching her <_<

Get her to post is more like it.

[Xylthixlm]

Not at all. I said we need to do something about Vaya, I wasn't referring to lynching her <_<

Get her to post is more like it.

Your choices for getting her to post are either asking nicely, or threatening to lynch and carrying through if necessary. Pick one.

[dramonic]

don't we have the SpyreX shot option?

[SpyreX]

I WISH.

That was one shot. Needless to say I believe Zak because that story seems consistent with what happened to me.

[Xylthixlm]

My first guess is that we have in inventor-type role running around giving one-shot abilities. If that's right it's important to remember that the person who gets the ability is

not

cleared.

[zwetschenwasser]

Zakeri smells of scum hiding behind a neutral ability.

[Pesco47]

Now that we're cleared up.

Unvote
Vote Xyl

Don't worry about who gets the abilities. The people that don't scumhunt are the ones that definitely aren't clear.

[Kmd4390]

Hulk hide behind policy lynch all game.

I've been doing pretty much the same thing, and I know I'm town. I have a few mild reads but nothing I'm confident about.

I

hate

village idiots; they don't just get lynched, it's also hard to separate town from scum on the wagons.

Let's compare. Hulk has a total of 15 posts:
0:Here and ready.
1:Lists (a lot of) lurkers
2:Votes DN (with no listed reasons)
3/4/5:Asks why Zwet is still alive (angry at vig) and votes Zwet, pushing policy.
6/7:Agrees with Zak about policy lynching Zwet. Angry at me for vote. Asserts that Zwet needs to die.
8:Willing to vote Mipe.
9:More Zwet hate, but a Mipe vote.
10:Angry that Zwet is alive.
11:Pushes Zwet as policy lynch again.
12:States that Vaya hammered and asks why.
13:Pushes policy lynch on Zwet.
14:Pesco doesn't make sense.

So, Hulk's contributions:
-Pushes policy lynch on Zwet
-----In agreement with Zak about Zwet
-----Dislikes my vote on Zak
-Votes on both of our mislynches without giving a reason
-The question to Vaya
-Saying Pesco doesn't make sense.

He's used the policy lynch as something to hide behind so he can avoid doing anything else.

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Xyl, you have a total of 47 posts. More than 3 times as many as Hulk.
0:Vote Zwet.
1:DN is scum for claiming nontown. Zwet still needs to die.
2:Explains vote count mechanics. Basically fluff.
3:Votes DN.
4-7:Attacking Zwet, RBT, and Mipe for not voting DN.
8:Questions RBT about DN
9:Pushes DN some more.
10:Calls someone idiots. Not sure who and not really worth going back to look.
11:Pissed at DN (after lynch). Votes Zwet, I assume on policy.
12:Satisfied with a vig on Mipe.
13/14:Questions Mipe.
15:Says he'd be ok with a vig on Zwet, but prefers Mipe because he thinks Mipe is scum and Zwet is only on policy.
16/17:Interacting with Zwet.
18:Agrees with Zak about Zwet/Mipe
19:Specifies that the Zwet vote has nothing to do with the hammer.
20:Dislikes my Zak case.
21:Votes Mipe.
22:Calls for more votes on Mipe.
23:More disagreement with my Zak vote.
24/25:Questions me.
26/27/28/29:Mufasa is scum. Pesco needs to be re-evaluated.
30:Spy is town.
31/32/33:Interacts with Dramonic, then says he has a small town read on Dramonic.
34:More Mipe hate.
35/36:Theory arguments (used to push points. not fluff)
37:Frustration with Mipe (after lynch)
38:Still happy with the Mipe lynch even though he was town.
39:Translates Zwet's post.
40:Says he's done the same as Hulk. I'll stop here because anything after this came AFTER the fact that I called out Hulk, and won't be useful to proving my point.

Xyl's contributions:
-Pushes policy lynch on Zwet
-Votes on both of our mislynches, but with reasons
------Helps to push these lynches.
-Has questioned several players.
-Has given reads on several players.
-Asserts stances on more than just Zwet.

________________________

Similarites between Hulk and Xyl:
-Push policy lynch on Zwet.
-Agree with Zak, disagree with me, regarding Zwet.
-Voted on both mislynches.
________________________

Differences between Hulk and Xyk:
-Hulk is doing nothing but pushing Zwet. Xyl has contributed aside from that.
-Xyl explained why he voted on both mislynches AND continued to push after he voted. Hulk did neither of the two.

_________________________

So while I'm not going to be quick to call Xyl town (I didn't mention this above, but I don't like the post-lynch comments on DN and Mipe), he's obviously not hiding behind Zwet the way Hulk is.

[Kmd4390]

Pesco doesn't have the answer for this either. I do.

Last night, I

was given

the opportunity to give someone a double vote. There are 14 votes in play right now, which makes the majority eight votes instead of seven. Everyone not on the votecount is at L-8, Vaya is at L-7 because he has one vote, and the other two both have two votes on them.

I didn't expect it to have any affect on the majority, but there you go.

Also,

I don't have a reason for why I choose to give it to Pesco.

It was very likely a subconscious nod to a previous game where we were a scum pair and he could secretly hammer a wagon in addition to his in thread vote.

Cut: I really shouldn't start browsing other websites in the middle of posting here.

1st bold: I obviously believe you about giving Pesco a double vote. But if the ability was given to you, and was not part of your role, it doesn't make you any more likely to be town.
2nd bold: Absolutely terrible. Not even a "He looks town", but just the fact that you were scum with him in another game? You are obviously scum with Hulk.

Zakeri, one question, which you may answer if you think it is beneficial. By "I was given the opportunity to give someone a double vote" do you mean this was not a normal part of your role?

I assumed that he meant this.

[Xylthixlm]

Oh right, I forgot about Mufasa.

I could see a Mufasa/Zakeri/Pesco scumteam here, I think.

[Kmd4390]

lol @ my unintentional smiley in my Xyl PBPA.

Xyl, why Zak? Didn't you disagree with my case pretty strongly?

[Xylthixlm]

IIRC my "Zakeri is town" assessment was based on this:

I'm alright with a Vig on Mipe or Zwet. In fact, I'd be happy if both of them died today, so do whichever you want.

Let's just say that's no longer convincing in light of Zakeri's claim to have randomly fired off a double vote.

[zwetschenwasser]

Uh why?

[Vi]

Flandre Scarlet, Part 1
Remilia Scarlet's younger

and highly overrated

sister. Due to her uncivilized manners (i.e. mistaking anything with blood for food and hacking it to pieces), she has been locked in the basement of the Scarlet Devil Mansion for all of the 495 years she has been alive. Canon is pretty ambiguous about whether she's still an omnicidal maniac wielding her affinity for destruction at full power or just really, really bored and somewhat tolerant of people as a means of passing time. She still has terrible social skills either way.
She wields the sword Lævatein and for some reason references Agatha Christie.

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Vote Count:

The Incredible Hulk (L-6) ~ zwetschenwasser, Kmd4390
Vaya (L-6) ~ Mufasa, Xylthixlm
Xylthixlm (L-6) ~

Pesco47,

Pesco47

Pesco47 (L-8) ~

Pesco47

Not Voting:

dramonic, Elmo, Plum, Sotty7, SpyreX, The Incredible Hulk, Vaya,

Xylthixlm,

Zakeri
[size=0]dramonic 0 | Elmo 3 PROD1 0 | Kmd 0 | Mufasa 0 | Pesco 0 | Plum 3 PROD1 0 | Sotty 0 | SpyreX 0 | Hulk 2 | Vaya 3 PROD1 0 | Xyl 0 | Zakeri 0 | zwet 0[/size]

-Elmo has been prodded.
-Plum has been prodded.
-Vaya has been prodded.

--With 13 alive, it should take 7 to drop Apollo 13 on someone.

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