Open 173: Pie E7 Game over

[VP Baltar]

PZ, I want to see your case on charter please.

[Papa Zito]

PZ, I want to see your case on charter please.

Eh, okay. I never got a chance to finish though.

2. /ignore

Ok, policy ignoring hohum's posts.

3. House of Pancakes routine on hohum:

My vote is going on hohum, just going to wait a few pages before we lynch him.

Charter: How sure are you that Hohum is scum?

It's kind of funny, not very sure at all.

mod prod hohumscum please

Didn't realize he was lurking scum as well.

I'm not very sure of him being scum.

ZOMGZ YOURE SCUM

4. Hammering.

No, I said I'd hammer you cause you're an idiot

5. Crap case on VP Baltar:

Part of the reason I still think you're scum. I'm not scum. I'm pretty sure dramonic is not scum. I don't think hohum is scum. Scien I could go either way on. Kittymo I could go either way on. Amished I'm leaning town. I will be lame and say gut in addition to those posts as for why I think Balter is scum. So, I can easily see two of Scien, Kittymo, and Balter as scum, and since Balter is voting Kittymo (why are you even still voting her?) it's unlikely that it's Balter and Kittmo together. Basically, any way I slice it, Balter comes in the picture as questionable.

Balter isn't scum because he's scummy, he's scum from process of elimination. On Day 1.

6. Scien vote:

dramonic/Amished/Kittymo's replacement, would you guys vote Scien? Do you think he's scum?

At this point, he's probably my second choice for lynching. He's still clinging to a dramonic vote, which wasn't valid in the first place. He hasn't mentioned hardly anyone but dramonic or myself.

Oh, Scien isn't still voting dramonic, but he's still convinced dramonic is scum, for the 'lie' which is bogus.

Major reason for voting Scien was for parking his vote on Dramonic. Except, oops, Scien isn't voting Dramonic anymore. Yet charter leaves his vote on Scien.

Man that was annoying. Sentbox doesn't have a quote button.

[VP Baltar]

What was your number 1 point PZ? Looks like it got cut off. Also, had you taken notes during your reading of the game?

I'm interested to hear your take on who could be scum now that your top two suspects have flipped town.

Definitely still anxious to hear hohum in the meantime.

[Papa Zito]

I don't remember what 1 was. I wrote it, went back to check and it was wrong so I deleted it.

I took notes and went back to flesh things out.

Yeah, I dunno. I really owe this game a reread, which I'll get on. Iso's didn't give me much.

[hohum]

Dear town,

Vote Scien

That is all.

[Papa Zito]

Dear town,

Vote Scien

That is all.

Math, hohum. We're in lylo dammit.

[hohum]

Dear town,

Vote Scien

That is all.

Math, hohum. We're in lylo dammit.

I'm doing the math, I've got a guilty result on him.

Thanks.

-Cop

[Scien]

Hohum if that is because you think I was just trying to buddy you as scum you should remove that. I was looking at you for exactly the same reason... one of us should be dead. Why Amished? I don't know.

If you are scum than carry on.

---

When I am hammered you know that Hohum and me are town.

If I am not, that means me or Hohum are scum.

I haven't started catching up yet, but the flips looked, well not what I was expecting.

More later at least by day end.

[Scien]

Woah... no.

That's a lie. No quick lynches while we examine please. I'm not even sure the cop should counter claim until I think a bit more.

[Papa Zito]

I'm doing the math, I've got a guilty result on him.

Thanks.

-Cop

Dear town,

I freaking hate lylo.


Love,

PZ

[Scien]

Vote:Hohum

It would be too risky for me to counter claim as a cop here, to try and draw a night kill from scum, and allow our cop to live. The scum could just re-claim cop tomorrow anyway. Dang it.

Roleclaim: Vanilia Townie.

The cop should think carefully if he should out himself today depending on his investigation. But in the very least you know one person here is lying.

If you have a guilty on a second then there we go we win. I am assuming that Hohum and scum team is fairly confident that either Hohum drew the investigation, and are using him to out you, or have role blocked you.

Since they are involving me in this, I can't determine if they were expecting me to claim cop as well or not. I can only assume that means they did not roleblock me, in hopes that if I was cop, the counter claim would seem petty, and weak. That path is not the case however.

[hohum]

I did breadcrum, twice.


I breadcrumbed my role before the game started and I breadcrumbed my intended target for investigation.

[Scien]

You can breadcrumb as scum. Don't be fooled.

[VP Baltar]

We're in lylo, so unless I hear a counterclaim you are caught scum, Scien.

Hohum, I still want you to explain why you quick hammered charter yesterday. Also, why did you investigate Scien last night?

[Scien]

You also NKed the one of the people that called you out on your coded WIFOM.

To the whole town pre-game codes:

Hohum: V nz gur pbc
Simple shift cipher for "I am the cop"

Scien: G uraju lgur rnf l pvcu re?
Simple shift cipher for "Then why a simple cipher?" or something similar.
(I played with spaces)

That proves I caught the crumbs and doubted. So did Amished. One of us ended up dead, the other the immediate target in day 2. One of us already flipped pro-town. (And yes I know that my suspicion doesn't prove innocence. But it could suggest why he is attacking those two people)

[Scien]

We're in lylo, so unless I hear a counterclaim you are caught scum

There's your partner. He doesn't care about our cop. He demands he out himself instead.

[VP Baltar]

Scien, if you are not scum, then what use is a cop going to do if we lose with your lynch? If hohum is scum, then the cop should confirm it, don't you think?

That being said, you saying you figured out the cipher on Day 1 gives me pause because if that were the case I would think that you would have blocked hohum last night.

[Scien]

We won't, he will aid my case without a claim, and will not allow the lynch without a claim.

Why do you want to force him to claim without knowing what kind of investigation he may or may not have gotten last night? Why hand him to the scum on a silver platter.

[Scien]

Unless you have the win condition Cop. If you have a guilty on someone other than Hohum, you know that your investigation and Hohum are the scum team and we got the win.

If you have an innocent on anyone other than me, that would help as well, as your cop claim would damn Hohum, and set up tomorrow, but would be less ideal because tonight they might let you live, with hopes that the town would see it as a set up. You would have to decide if you wanted to claim there.

If you are blocked, then meh. Might as well just keep the town from losing without revealing yourself, unless you must.

[Scien]

BTW Hohum is most likely the one claiming because he is the vanilla scum. Just saying. So we can count on the block tonight too if we claim, and he is not nked.

[Papa Zito]

Dramonic: Your opinion on this plz.

Scien: Your avatar is aggressively orange.

[Scien]

Red. Reliable Excavation and Demolition.

[VP Baltar]

Why do you want to force him to claim without knowing what kind of investigation he may or may not have gotten last night?

Because I want to win this game and if you are town, I don't want to lynch you. I have no evidence that hohum is lying other than I don't see why you wouldn't roleblock him if you knew he was the cop. That being said, I see no reason to doubt an uncounterclaimed cop.

I agree with your potential "hohum vanilla scum claims cop" theory to get a mislynch, but why would I take your theory to be the truth over an uncounterclaimed cop who says he has a guilty on you?


PZ, you need to post some opinions pronto.

[Scien]

You couldn't be sure. That's the correct answer from a townie point of view.

But our win is not just in today. Its in tomorrow as well. Getting a cop there might help more than having him save me here.

This is something we should talk about. Not blanket ask for the cop to claim. Only the cop knows for sure just how valuable his claim would be at this point in time.

[MiteyMouse]

Official Vote Count 2.1

*Scien-1 (Hohum)
Hohum-1 (Scien)

Not voting: VP Baltar, Papa Zito and dramonic.

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch!