Open 156 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over before 816

[Alduskkel]

Vote Count #25
Sho Minamimoto (3) - Debonair Danny DiPietro, ekiM, Santos
Kise (1) - muzzz
muzzz (1) - Kise
4 to lynch.

The day ends in 24 hours, as I said in 551 at the beginning of Day 2.

[Toro]

Holy crap, this game is still going on!?

[Shanba]

Unvote?

Vote: Raivann

I want to know moar.

Whether or not to believe if DDD just claimed cop or not.

Opinion of DDD's explanation?

I like it.

Now with reasons?

It had logic and substantial evidence.

As for pulling my weight, I've just neglected to read rules in every game I play. This accounts for my problems as a mafia player. I'm learning.

Unvote

I thought there was a cop in this game. Now I'm just not liking the use of meta DDD used to prove Raivann simply on a chance of 50/50, as it appears the meta is exemplary of a null-tell, IMO.

Vote Count #7

Debonair Danny DiPietro (3) - Toro, itacv2, Raivann
itacv2 (2) - ekiM, ZazieR
Santos (1) - Kise
Raivann (1) - Debonair Danny DiPietro
Sho Minamimoto (1) - muzzz

I can't believe this got so little attention! Santos follows DDD because he thinks he's claiming cop. DDD reveals his case. Zazier questions Santos about the case and Santos says he likes it. Then all of a sudden Santos unvotes? Is Santos only pretending t read the thread? Cause I count that as pretty scummy. Especially the way he suddenly turns on ZazieR after this. (sidenote: wasn't santos lynched day 2? Must go check again.)

Interesting. Sho's posting starts off strong and then tails off. When I used to do a lot of IRC mafia, that was a strong indication of scumminess there. I'm not sure about it in forum mafia, though I can think of at least one case of it happening in my own play as scum. So I'm counting this as a weak scumtell for now.

Interesting. My personal preference on the masons claiming would be that if one does, he should have left breadcrumbs in his posts for the others to confirm themselves with. Risky, of course, in that scum might pick the breadcrumbs, but if cleverly done allows for a confirmed innocent sans the knowledge that the second one will die immediately. And of course standard spiel about how wrong exalt was. Looked like newbiness rather than scumminess so I'm not really a fan of the lynch.

Although I agree with the other reasons forf lynching him. It jsut seems like he became somehting of a soft target after the mason thing. Typical stupid but not scummy play that scum love to attack.


I stopped doing a play b play kinda thing at that point because I was getting pretty stuck in a rut with my reads. Basically, I think Sho, Santos and form the last pages or so Kise are scum. OTOH, I don't really see the santos/sho recent spat as bussing. It feeels... well, a little bit too casual. Like they don't really care enough. I'm really not certain who's highest on my scumdar, so we'll go with the biggest wagon and

Vote: Sho

[Alduskkel]

Final Vote Count
Sho Minamimoto (4) - Debonair Danny DiPietro, ekiM, Santos, Shanba
Kise (1) - muzzz
muzzz (1) - Kise
Not Voting (1) - Sho Minamimoto
4 to lynch.

The day is primarily spent having me dump buckets of cold water on people who keep falling asleep.

Finally though, they halfheartedly agree on Sho's lynch.

"Any last words?"

"You can't kill me! If you do, there won't be anymore Zetta jokes in the game!"

"That's... a pretty lame reason to let you live."

BANG!

Sho Minamimoto,

Vanilla Townie

, was lynched Day 3.

It is now Night 3. You know the drill. The Night deadline is 72 hours from this post.

Also, Days will now have 3 week deadlines. I think you know why.

[Alduskkel]

Kise is found crucified in the Town square. That's what happens when you call yourself Jesus Kise.

The Town inspects his body, and finds a plastic Police badge that you could buy in stores.

Kise,

Self-Aware Naive Cop

, formerly (and essentially) a

Vanilla Townie

, was killed Night 3.

The deadline is set for the end of October 28th.

With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

One (possibly both) of muzzz or Mike is scum.

[Kise]

Darn it! And I had somebody to clear as townie.

[muzzz]

@DDD: and why is that?

@Santos: is your suspicion of Zazie carrying over to Shanba?

[Shanba]

I want some thoughts about the thoughts I laid out. I regret hammering solely for that reason. OTOH, deadline was approaching pretty quickly anyway.

As a side note, long nights are a great way to drain interest. I'm also a little worried that three days in only 3 of the players have said anything at all.

[Alduskkel]

Prodding: ekiM
Santos is not being prodded because he has a LA message in his signature.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

@DDD: and why is that?

Because Santos and Shanba aren't scum together which is about the only pairing I've managed to rule out.

[muzzz]

Am I assuming correctly that you're ruling out Santos + Shanba because of Santos vs. Zazie?

@Shanba: I'm too lazy to provide a review of all your posting. But if you have specific questions, I'd be happy to oblige.

[Santos]

muzzz or Shanba. I'm happy with either. Shanba gets it more so only because he replaced ZazieR. Muzzz: its turning to a gut feeling, but nothing I'd take to the grave unless someone else saw that light...oh, I think it was Sho, right?
If I remember correctly, these two were not with each other...or was that someone else? I've kinda put this game on the back burner, but haven't replaced out because I know our mod would probably chop my head off, haha. :p *waits for haters*

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Am I assuming correctly that you're ruling out Santos + Shanba because of Santos vs. Zazie?

And then Shanba tossed some flack at him as well. All in all, with a game this slow and as off-target as we've been there's likely little reason to even attempt to bus your partner. Hence with that pairing ruled out all the possible scum teams feature you and/or Mike.

[Santos]

So are we waiting for people to have the balls to vote?

Vote: Shanba

[ekiM]

Hi all, sorry for needing prodding. Term has just started and things are hectic. I'll have time to catch up and post thoughts tomorrow morning.

[Shanba]

Am I assuming correctly that you're ruling out Santos + Shanba because of Santos vs. Zazie?

@Shanba: I'm too lazy to provide a review of all your posting. But if you have specific questions, I'd be happy to oblige.

All my two posts?

You're too lazy to read the only things I have posted in this game so far, and the only things you can possibly judge me on? It's not bleeding wonder this game is dying a slow and painfully unproductive death (though slow nights don't help either.) Put some bloody effort in. I read this whole damn game for you.

3 days for a Night is fairly standard, Shanba.

[ekiM]

Here, reading.

[muzzz]

I like Santos' attitude. And I doubt scum would open the votes today. That leaves three potential scum pairs. Out of those pairs, I think DDD+Ekim is the least likely. That leaves Shanba as the common denominator for the two other pairs.

It's a gut-read, I know. But this game has gone on long enough, so I don't mind rolling with my gut.

Vote: Shanba

@Shanba: reading != reviewing. In case you haven't figured it out, I'm fairly minimalistic when it comes to writing.

[ekiM]

What he said.

Vote: Shanba

.

[Alduskkel]

Final Vote Count Of All Time
Shanba (3) - Santos, muzzz, ekiM
Not Voting (2) - Shanba, Debonair Danny DiPietro

The remaining Town members gathered in the Town square, each eying each other warily. They knew that if they screwed this up they'd surely fall...

...but one of them, Santos, figured he'd sorted it all out, and quickly declared Shanba to be one of the local Mafiosos.

"Everyone knows frogs like pond scum," said Santos in a totally-not-ripping off of Goatrevolt's title way.

"Can't argue with that logic," declared muzzz and ekiM.

The three dragged Shanba to the gallows that have totally been here this entire time, and have totally been used to hang people before. They certainly haven't been shot by me.

"The rope is much too big!" said Santos. Indeed, they'd never fit Shanba into one of the loops, since he was, you know, a frog.

ekiM pondered the problem, stroking his avatar's beard.

"Guys, Shanba's a FROG. We can just stomp on him!" said muzzz.

And so they did, and Shanba --

"Are you about to make a pun about croaking?" asked Debonair Danny DiPietro.

Ummm...

"Thought so. And why the hell haven't I been getting any lines in the flavor?"

Oh shut up. Or should I say, shot up! For Debonair was rife with holes from ekiM and muzzz's guns.

Santos, realizing what was happening, called upon all the dead players to rise up as zombies.

"Zetta braaiiiinnnns!" droned you-know-who.

"This is ridiculous," said muzzz, "they aren't even the fast kind."

So muzzz and ekiM had some tea before dispatching the zombies, and Santos with them.

"Crumpets?" asked muzzz.

"Don't mind if I do! Tinklety tonk!" said ekiM.

muzzz facepalmed. "That still isn't British."

Shanba,

Vanilla Townie

, was lynched Day 4.

Santos,

Vanilla Townie

, was endgamed.
Debonair Danny DiPietro,

Vanilla Townie

, was endgamed.

muzzz,

Mafia Role Cop

, formerly and essentially a

Mafia Goon

, along with ekiM,

Mafia Goon

, have won the game!

[Alduskkel]

Role Reveal

ekiM,

Mafia Goon

.
muzzz,

Mafia Goon

.
Exalt,

Vanilla Townie

.
Toro,

Mason

.
Raivann,

Vanilla Townie

.
Netlava (replacing itacv2),

Mason

.
Sho Minamimoto,

Vanilla Townie

.
Kise (replacing ConfidAnon (replacing Kise)),

Vanilla Townie

.
Shanba (replacing ZazieR (replacing FrankiePeanuts)),

Vanilla Townie

.
Debonair Danny DiPietro,

Vanilla Townie

.
Santos,

Vanilla Townie

.

Mod's thoughts to come tomorrow.
The Mafia and the Masons are free to post their PMs. There were no quicktopics that I know of.

P.S.: muzzz's investigative abilities were given after the Masons were dead, so obviously they were pointless. I did not receive any actual investigative targets from muzzz or Kise.

[Kise]

Congrats.

[ekiM]

Apathy killed the radio star. Good game, all.

Thanks go to Alduskkel for some patient modding.

Thanks to muzzz for being a good partner.

[Kise]

So to any degree, was I correct in thinking self-voting is a trap?