Mini 857 Disney Movie Mafia 2 - The Classics (Roll Credits)

[Starbuck]

I think you both just did.

Quoted for truth. How else does Crazy know that Starbuck's claim is fake?

Unvote: chamber
Vote: Starbuck
Major HoS: Crazy

He's initially a bit of an antagonist (spelling?), so why not make him scum?

The spelling looks right to me, and Firefox isn't complaining that it's misspelled either.

This post bothers me in the fact that SC has been defending me a good part of today, and then just turns around and votes me with no reasoning whatsoever.

[LlamaFluff]

Vote Count

Starbuck (5) - MonkeyMan576, YankCane151, Gorrad, chamber, StrangerCoug
chamber (3) - Jazzmyn, fuzzylightning, Starbuck
Gorrad (2) - kmd4390, Brandi
MonkeyMan576 (1) - semioldguy

Not Voting (1) - Crazy

[Starbuck]

Monkey, I hope you are prepared to not be able to watch tonight. And that's not AtE, that's FACT.

[Starbuck]

I would hammer myself to move the game along if I was scum. Since I'm not scum, I'm not going to hammer myself.

[MonkeyMan576]

I would hammer myself to move the game along if I was scum. Since I'm not scum, I'm not going to hammer myself.

You supposedly believe my rc yet your vote is still on me? Hammer, please.

[Starbuck]

I corrected the mod before my vote is on Chamber. Gimme a sec and I'll link to it.

[Starbuck]

Mod - This is the second time I've posted about the vote count error, this post being the first time.

Via this post, my vote is on Chamber, and not on Monkey

[Starbuck]

I would hammer myself to move the game along if I was scum. Since I'm not scum, I'm not going to hammer myself.

You supposedly believe my rc yet your vote is still on me? Hammer, please.

Taking this back yet, Monkey? Because you are wrong.

[MonkeyMan576]

No, your play today has still been scummy. Your roleclaim is fishy, and lynching gives us info about possible scum role makeup.

[MonkeyMan576]

Not to mention gives us info on the Starbuck-Crazy scumpair theory.

[Starbuck]

Ok, you want role info, fine. I'm done trying to save myself, this town is doomed anyways.

Unvote

Vote: Starbuck

I'm frustrated and I've had enough.

[Starbuck]

It's not worth playing when people are going out of their way to make it unfun.

[Starbuck]

Not to mention gives us info on the Starbuck-Crazy scumpair theory.

Which isn't going to happen because I WILL FLIP AS BUZZ LIGHTYEAR, VANILLA TOWNIE.

[chamber]

I think we can all play this game WITHOUT flinging insults.

I do view being obstinate to the point that you've been as a negative trait, but I don't think its objectively negative or positive. Obviously everyone should be some degree of obstinate. I didn't intend to insult you I was just pointing out a fact.

I normally don't buy into Freudian slips.

unvote

for now because I'm not convinced I want a lynch just yet.

[YankCane151]

Not to mention gives us info on the Starbuck-Crazy scumpair theory.

Which isn't going to happen because I WILL FLIP AS BUZZ LIGHTYEAR, VANILLA TOWNIE.

It will give us info, regardless of what you flip. Even if you flip Townie, I think Crazy's post could still be odd.

[Crazy]

One post as a response to Starbuck's big post. One post for everybody else.

Starbuck's post:

So why is this an absolute?

He could easily be bluffing.

If I wanted to get you lynched, I could do so without making myself look like scum with you.

I don't think you're scum. I stand by that.

Quoted for truth. How else does Crazy know that Starbuck's claim is fake?

I suppose I have to explain my side. I merely interchanged the words "claimed" and "fakeclaimed."

That shouldn't be hard to believe, but for the life of me I can't help you about Starbuck's thing; that's crazy!

It will give us info, regardless of what you flip. Even if you flip Townie, I think Crazy's post could still be odd.

He tries to justify Monkey leaving in this post by saying that Monkey came back after he was prodded. My issue with all of this is that Monkey shouldn't have left the game in the first place and should not have needed to be prodded when he was being active elsewhere on the site. He admits that I'm right about this via this post, but then says he can forgive Monkey's outburst when originally (look at the above quote), he didn't feel that way.

When Monkey first posted that, I didn't think he'd come back. Like I said, if Monkey did leave permanently, he would have been an obvious lynch as far as I was concerned.

I really don't like this because Crazy is most definitely being anti-town, and it seems like he's using the reasoning as an excuse to be anti-town.

I don't recall being anti-town. I believe the post was in reference to Gorrad. Being anti-town is not a good thing, but no, it's not scummy by itself.

Another thing that bothers me about Crazy is that he does not see anything wrong with how Chamber has been answering for Monkey and white-knighting him. I think it was StrangerCoug that put it best. Chamber has been defending Monkey for Monkey instead of Monkey defending himself.

That's probably true, but I don't find that as a big issue unless if Monkey flips scum. And lynching Chamber because you think Monkey is scum is stupid.

I'm also bothered by the fact that he kept calls my case crap via this post, and doesn't seem to remember why it's crap until I make mention of what my case on Monkey was via this post.

Actually, I first said what I didn't like about your Monkey case in Post #298, which was before both of the 2 posts you cited.

You then said that there were other reasons... and I said I didn't know about those. When I looked back, I discovered that there were no reasons that I didn't know about already.

After Monkey claims, Crazy immediately unvotes Monkey and votes me. He then immediately unvotes me after I claim. Let's take a look at this post

Yup. I'm not lynching a claimed watcher Day 1. And I'm not lynching someone with a claim as good as yours.

So if he thinks I'm fakeclaiming, why isn't he voting for me?

BECAUSE I DO NOT THINK YOU ARE FAKECLAIMING! Notice I corrected myself in the following pots!

[Crazy]

Lol, it looks like I can't even copy & paste correctly.

Everyone else:

I think you just slipped there, Crazy.

OMG!!!!!!!

Anybody else get the incredible irony in that statement. If I didn't know I was town, I'd seriously think me & Starbuck were scum together just from that!

I can't blame this wagon, seriously.

Crazy, why haven't you learned about flavor arguments yet? I know that Llama as a player HATES flavor arguments, so I doubt he'd make it that easy for us. Hell, I'll put up an argument opposing yours just to show that it's possible. Buzz Lightyear comes in as a new toy and nobody likes him right away. He's initially a bit of an antagonist (spelling?), so why not make him scum? It could go either way.

You didn't complain about that when I used a flavor argument to defend your lynch in the first game.

Besides, this isn't about determining alignment from flavor; it's about determing

role

. In the last game, about everyone (maybe not Panzer) had a perfectly fitting flavor for their role.

Mod: May I please be replaced in this game, I haven't been able to get a feel for the game with what's gone on, I apologize if I have wasted people's time

Aww, it was just getting really interesting, and I was just about to peg you as scum. Crap.

It will give us info, regardless of what you flip. Even if you flip Townie, I think Crazy's post could still be odd.

"Could still be odd." Gotta love phrasing like that. It might be, but it might not be, but if it is, it's only "odd."

If you think it's scummy, say it's scummy! And tell me

why

it's scummy, please.

So why is this an absolute?

He could easily be bluffing.

If I wanted to get you lynched, I could do so without making myself look like scum with you.

I don't think you're scum. I stand by that.

Quoted for truth. How else does Crazy know that Starbuck's claim is fake?

I suppose I have to explain my side. I merely interchanged the words "claimed" and "fakeclaimed."

That shouldn't be hard to believe, but for the life of me I can't help you about Starbuck's thing; that's crazy!

It will give us info, regardless of what you flip. Even if you flip Townie, I think Crazy's post could still be odd.

Tell me what "odd" means, please.

If you think it's scummy, say it's scummy, and say why it's scummy. "Odd" is a wussy word that is only used by scum and townies with no backbone.



*****

In conclusion, me saying "fakeclaim" instead of "claim" was just a slip of the tongue, and not a slip because I'm scum.

Anyway, if Starbuck is lynched, which seems likely, I'm about 95% sure that he'll flip town. If he does, then that doesn't reflect on me at all. If on a rare chance he does flip scum, then I'm sure I'm next, but at least that's not the end of the world.

And flavor arguments rock.

[LlamaFluff]

Neopi replaces fuzzylightning

I believe all VCs are correct now. I am running a fever and it hurts to look at my monitor right now so please bear with me for a few days.

[Jazzmyn]

Hey, all. It's a long holiday weekend here above the 49th parallel (Canadian Thanksgiving) so I've been busy with family stuff.

It appears that Starbuck self-voted when she thought that it would be a hammer, which is uber-scummy. It turns out that she was wrong about the vote count, but the action remains scummy, sufficiently so that I am going to:

Unvote
Vote: Starbuck

That's L-1.

[Crazy]

Starbuck is totally town but I don't know how I can argue that since everyone seems to have some aversion to flavor arguments.

[Starbuck]

Unvote

[Starbuck]

I keep thinking it's 5 to lynch instead of 7.

/sigh

I fail.

[Starbuck]

Hey, all. It's a long holiday weekend here above the 49th parallel (Canadian Thanksgiving) so I've been busy with family stuff.

It appears that Starbuck self-voted when she thought that it would be a hammer, which is uber-scummy. It turns out that she was wrong about the vote count, but the action remains scummy, sufficiently so that I am going to:

Unvote
Vote: Starbuck

That's L-1.

I was self-voting because it was pretty obvious the town wasn't going to move anywhere, and I was going to end the day since the town wasn't doing so.

I find you to be uber scummy for not seeing this, and to think I had a town read on you.

[Starbuck]

Vote: Jazzmyn

For barely posting and coming in when it's opportunistic for her.

[Crazy]

I was self-voting because it was pretty obvious the town wasn't going to move anywhere, and I was going to end the day since the town wasn't doing so.

This is not pro-town. Please do not do this ever.

I understand the frustration, but that is never what you should do.