Mini 863 - Space Station Mafia: GAME OVER - EVERYONE'S DEAD

[hiphop]

Vote: Hiphop

over reaction to a backed up joke.

I don't get it.

Vote: Messiah

for jumping on CoCo's post 64 without really adding anything or questioning it.

I would think that it would be a CoolDoG vote. It was he that voted and didn't add or question, but than again that could be his style as noted by milkshake 67 here

Why did you single me out when CooLDoG and CoCo did the exact same thing?

CooLDoG did, but CoCo didn't.

Hiphop looks very jumpy to me. Usually in the RVS I can pick out scum through gut feeling. The fact that he didn't take an RVS vote very well tells me that he has something to hide.

Are you talking about your first vote? I said quite clearly, if it was random, AlmasterGM needs a bs reason. Where is your info coming from of me not taking a bs reason very well?

So it was bs. Defensive? If you attacked me, I have a right to defend. What do you expect me to do, flop over and wave the white flag?

Well, that is essentially what most people do during the RVS. The votes are to be taken with a grain of salt.

That quote that you quoted, was me commenting if your first vote was not random. What you said in post 50. The only reason you said I was getting defensive was because of me saying if your vote was not random, I wanted a reason. Because your vote is random, I don't care about it.

On a more serious note, do you think Hoopla's confusing-but-excellent-random-voting-shake-the-boat technique (I'm hoping the name catches on) actually made her more likely to be scum, or did you see erratic play and decide it'd be a safe place to drop a vote?

You said confusing right? Why would a town want confusion? I did not vote for her for either reason. I voted because she refuses in a silent kind of way, to not to answer my questions.

My problem with this is that CoCo didn't actually

say

much of anything with that post, nor did he vote. What you're "agreeing" with is the statement that "this stands out", which has almost zero content to it. I would expect to see some sort of question or accusation go along with this. It looks a bit like borrowing someone else's soft suspicion and running with it, getting called on it, and then backpedaling with 'oops, I mistook the definition of the word.'

Why is everybody attacking Messiah, when CooLDoG did the exact same thing? He asked a question. Sposh started the bw on Messiah, because he did not ask a question, when he did. I hate it when people attack one person for a certain action, when other people do the exact same thing.

Minor FoS: CooLDoG

for piling on, but I don't think early-game bandwagons are necessarily a bad thing.

Why the FOS than?

On a more serious note, I'm quite confident Messiah is scum, and I encourage others to view his posts. Can we please bandwagon him now?

Vote: Messiah

Same thing CD and MS did. Why not a bw on Hoopla?

Hoopla, you missed my question:

Nope just ignores questions (she?) doesn't want to answer. Pretends they are not there.

[Messiah]

What is Hoopla lying about?

Having information no one else has for why "we ought to be voting messiah".

Messiah, you pushed a case on milkshake with a vote. This makes me believe that you didn't just misinterpret his wording.

The entire "case" I had against him was just that one sentence. I misinterpreted what he meant in that sentence, therefore the entire case was based on a misinterpretation, which is why I unvoted.

Next, your vote was not the same thing that cooldog and coco did. Coco didn't vote. CooLDog voted after you.

Yes, you're correct.

[Hoopla]

NewAgeWarrior: I will happily reveal my coded information soon - if you want a hint in the mean time to tide you over, each letter is the first letter of a word in my message.

To be honest though, I doubt you're Messiah's buddy. It seems like a far too obvious defense which could come back to bite you if/when Messiah flips scum. Despite being wifom, I will tentatively chalk you down to skeptical town, which is okay, and something we certainly need.

[hiphop]

NewAgeWarrior: I will happily reveal my coded information soon - if you want a hint in the mean time to tide you over, each letter is the first letter of a word in my message.

To be honest though, I doubt you're Messiah's buddy. It seems like a far too obvious defense which could come back to bite you if/when Messiah flips scum. Despite being wifom, I will tentatively chalk you down to skeptical town, which is okay, and something we certainly need.

So form your POV Messiah is scum. NAW and I are town. Anybody else?

[Hoopla]

Hoopla, you missed my question:

Okay, I am relatively satisfied you're town. I suggest we bandwagon someone to L-3 or L-2 before the end of this page.

Is this in reference to HipHop? Can you explain your reasoning behind your conclusion, Hoopla?

Yes, this was in reference to hiphop - we had about 6 posts back and forth. I don't see how it could be anyone else I was referring to.

The conclusion wasn't true - I was only curious to see if he would follow my lead. His play I actually interpreted as a loose scumtell, due to some recent data-mining I did, where I speculated deliberately unusual, bizarre or anti-town play was more often than random seized upon by scum early in a game. The logic is scum seek a safe place to put their vote, and dislike commiting to something they can be called-on for easily. Whereas town, who have a more genuine attitude toward scumhunting, have no ulterior motives and thus tend to place dicier votes.

Is this satisfactory?

[Hoopla]

So form your POV Messiah is scum. NAW and I are town. Anybody else?

No, Messiah is scum.

I have a small town read on NAW and a neutral read on you.

[AlmasterGM]

Not liking Peabody or CoCo at the moment.

[NewAgeWarrior]

I have no idea what you just said hoopla, though I feel its my fault cause I think my brain stopped working for some reason. Can you restate that like I'm a kindergartner? a short summary would work too.

[NewAgeWarrior]

EBWOP: im refering to post 104 hoopla

[Hoopla]

Not liking Peabody or CoCo at the moment.

Hey Alamaster, do you have any more content you wish to add?

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I have no idea what you just said hoopla, though I feel its my fault cause I think my brain stopped working for some reason. Can you restate that like I'm a kindergartner? a short summary would work too.

Sure, I can retry. I was talking about a scumtell I generated whereby scum tend to jump on unusual/anti-town playstyles as they deem it a safe place to put their vote. Scum want to avoid being under pressure, and will generally seek safety over a controversial position.

Anyway, this read was developed from reviewing the start of many games, and despite being very subjective at times due to ever-evolving meta on what is town and what isn't, scum tended to be the ones to seek the safety of votes on anti-town players, and policy lynches.


Rereading that summary, I don't think I made it any simpler. I hope you understand.

[AlmasterGM]

Hey Alamaster, do you have any more content you wish to add?

Only if you spell my name correctly.

[NewAgeWarrior]

Man, a kindergartner would never understand that

So, if i get it right, you were basicly voting on and insisting on messiah for no real reason to he how he would react and to see who would believe such a cock-and-bull story for an easy and useless bandwagon.
Thats what i got from it.

@AGM (new official acronym for altmasterGM)
Enough has happened so far that you can say more than that.

[NewAgeWarrior]

EBWOP (again):
AlmasterGM*
my bad

[Hoopla]

Man, a kindergartner would never understand that

So, if i get it right, you were basicly voting on and insisting on messiah for no real reason to he how he would react and to see who would believe such a cock-and-bull story for an easy and useless bandwagon.
Thats what i got from it.

What? No...

Peabody was enquiring about my interactions with hiphop. That's what my response to him was about. Hiphop.

[hiphop]

So form your POV Messiah is scum. NAW and I are town. Anybody else?

No, Messiah is scum.

I have a small town read on NAW and a neutral read on you.

I am sorry, that should say, So

from

your POV Messiah is scum. NAW and I are town. Anybody else?

That of course is what you had said earlier.

Not liking Peabody or CoCo at the moment.

I won't even spell your name. Why are you not liking them?

The conclusion wasn't true - I was only curious to see if he would follow my lead. His play I actually interpreted as a loose scumtell, due to some recent data-mining I did, where I speculated deliberately unusual, bizarre or anti-town play was more often than random seized upon by scum early in a game. The logic is scum seek a safe place to put their vote, and dislike commiting to something they can be called-on for easily. Whereas town, who have a more genuine attitude toward scumhunting, have no ulterior motives and thus tend to place dicier votes.

Completely understand, and completely disagree.

[NewAgeWarrior]

Oh.
So, umm, how do you have info on Messiah?

[lobstermania]

Day One Vote Count #2

- as of post 115

Hoopla (4):

NewAgeWarrior, Sposh, hiphop, Messiah

hiphop (2):

milkshake, Empking

Messiah (2):

charlatan, Peabody

milkshake (1):

CooLDoG

Peabody (1):

AlmasterGM

SerialClergyman

(?!?)

(1):

Hoopla

Not Voting (1):

Coco

Reminder: With 12 astronauts still breathing it takes 7 votes to lynch.

[milkshake]

I wouldn't mind knowing that either...

Why is everybody attacking Messiah, when CooLDoG did the exact same thing? He asked a question. Sposh started the bw on Messiah, because he did not ask a question, when he did. I hate it when people attack one person for a certain action, when other people do the exact same thing.

I actually agree with this, hiphop, and I think most other people do too, so don't worry. But I'm interested to see what becomes of the Messiah votes, especially with Hoopla whole secret message thing (although I'm starting to guess it just says "I just put this here to make things interesting. Aren't I smart?")

[Hoopla]

Erm, that vote-count is way off. Like, really. Messiah should be at L-2.

[milkshake]

Vote count is not quite right I believe. My vote is on Messiah at the moment, for example. If you could recheck that that would be great. Thanks.

[hiphop]

I wouldn't mind knowing that either...

Why is everybody attacking Messiah, when CooLDoG did the exact same thing? He asked a question. Sposh started the bw on Messiah, because he did not ask a question, when he did. I hate it when people attack one person for a certain action, when other people do the exact same thing.

I actually agree with this, hiphop, and I think most other people do too, so don't worry. But I'm interested to see what becomes of the Messiah votes, especially with Hoopla whole secret message thing (although I'm starting to guess it just says "I just put this here to make things interesting. Aren't I smart?")

You must be on to something.

I understand now. According to the rules, you must unvote before you vote.

To vote, you must type "Vote: Lobstermania" in bold. If
you change your vote during the same Day you must "Unvote" first. If a majority of the players "Vote: No Lynch" the game will move into Night with no deaths.

[lobstermania]

Upon a review of all the posts in this thread, the vote count remains the same.
If anyone is concerned that their vote is misrepresented, I suggest to review the rules to the game; not everyone is unvoting.

[hiphop]

Let's lynch SerialClergyman, since the mod allows votes for people who are not in this game.

[Hoopla]

I'm not a fan of anal voting rules, but I'll play along.

Unvote, Vote: Messiah

preview edit: we so should. lets do it just because it's hilarious.

[Sposh]

Unvote, Vote: Messiah

just in case!