Mini 861: Hellsing Mafia - (Game Over!)

[Amished]

The only reason I know is because I played in a game with a miller once. I got the advice from X I believe, while other pretty well known scummers have agreed with them. Game was Vi's Mafia ViPod in Coney Island (I'm truant in that game). I replaced in after the miller discussion was had, but it's on the same page as the end of Day1 if you want to skim back for the information.

The problem is that you claim to have powers. You're effectively outing yourself as a power role in this case, while a miller is only able to show up guilty to inves. results.

[saberwolf]

I just noticed amished asked for a claim too. don't like that either.

[Amished]

What do you have against a full claim in this regard?

[Netopalis]

Alright. Guess I might as well at this point. I'm a Miller NK-Immune One-shot vig. The vig is one-shot, the rest of the roles are permanent.

[forbiddanlight]

Don't like this at all.

Seems like a scum attempt to find VIPs to pick off.

Are you serious?

I have an incredibly improbable role. You might be able to call it a power role...it is extremely useful, but not in the usual way. That being said, if I claim it under threat of lynch, I am almost positive that nobody will believe said claim. Is claiming worthwhile or no? Normally, I wouldn't ask this question, but it's a claim that I think is practically unprecedented and *may* have been in the Worst Roles Ever thread....

Oh...

Wait..

Nevermind. I actually misread this. I thought he said it was NOT extremely useful and that it was bad. When I saw the comparison to miller that's what got me thinking that.

Worst Roles ever thread also made me feel it was throwaway

Do NOT claim not that I've reread your post.

[Amished]

Day vig or night vig?

[Amished]

Well, he's self protected at least....

[forbiddanlight]

Alright. Guess I might as well at this point. I'm a Miller NK-Immune One-shot vig. The vig is one-shot, the rest of the roles are permanent.

Are you...

Did...

KAIRYUU!

What
The
HELL
MANZ!

Whatever, Neto might as well be cleared...

[saberwolf]

full claims in this game this early are suspicious.

actually, it all depends...is neto at L-1 or something?

Mod can we have a vote count

if he's close to a lynch then I understand, but this kinda came out of the blue.

I just didn't want to see him claim something useful only to be NKed by scum.

[Amished]

Unvote

Yeah, this is definitely able to be tested..

Vote: Sabrewolf

lol sabre fail at knowing game status. Net was L-2 I think, and scum can't nk him from the claim.

[saberwolf]

forbidden: understandable, I'll let it slide.

[Netopalis]

Night vig. And I've been debating claiming since the early game.....I knew that this role was better out in the open, but I wasn't sure how it would be accepted as a D1 claim without lynch pressure...But if I claim under lynch-pressure, there's no way anyone would believe that.

[forbiddanlight]

Night vig. And I've been debating claiming since the early game.....I knew that this role was better out in the open, but I wasn't sure how it would be accepted as a D1 claim without lynch pressure...But if I claim under lynch-pressure, there's no way anyone would believe that.

This one is an odd one

On the one hand, your NK immunity is NOT something you want to claim

On the other, claiming miller early is smart.

Honestly, the best way to play this would have been to play as pro town as possible and hope to draw the NK. Second best would be to just claim the miller part in your first post.

That's for future reference, though you'll likely never get a role like that again.

[saberwolf]

Alright. Guess I might as well at this point. I'm a Miller NK-Immune One-shot vig. The vig is one-shot, the rest of the roles are permanent.

impressive, and conveniently safe...

the only problem is during endgame you're gonna be a high suspect.

I'm not sure what to make of it for now, but for now I suppose I'll believe him.

[Amished]

Exactly. Which is why you claim miller early on. You might've been able to draw a scum nk which would've helped the town by eliminating their NK. Or just play well enough to make the scum nervous, trying to kill you and still wasting their NK. As such, you're a vig that if we don't believe you we need to lynch after you've vigged for the town. Especially as NK + guilty make you look like an SK.

Also, flavor with your role?

[saberwolf]

amnish: please tell me you did not just vote for me because I didn't know neto was at L-2....

[forbiddanlight]

impressive, and conveniently safe...

the only problem is during endgame you're gonna be a high suspect.

I'm not sure what to make of it for now, but for now I suppose I'll believe him.

His claim should actually be a null tell...but...given his join date, he wouldn't know the reference, so I actually lean "almost confirmed town"

If it were someone older I'd ask if they were joking and if they said no I'd be pushing it as a null tell.

Further, then we better not get to endgame, right?

[Amished]

amnish: please tell me you did not just vote for me because I didn't know neto was at L-2....

Nope, for your other scumtells.

[saberwolf]

impressive, and conveniently safe...

the only problem is during endgame you're gonna be a high suspect.

I'm not sure what to make of it for now, but for now I suppose I'll believe him.

His claim should actually be a null tell...but...given his join date, he wouldn't know the reference, so I actually lean "almost confirmed town"

If it were someone older I'd ask if they were joking and if they said no I'd be pushing it as a null tell.

Further, then we better not get to endgame, right?

Agreed, although I'm aware this could easily be scumbuddy protecting one another. However I'm inclined to believe you.

[Netopalis]

Flavor: Alexander Anderson. Note that I've only watched the first episode, so I don't know much about him....

[saberwolf]

is it just the time of day, or do you find its the same people talking?

[Netopalis]

Time of day, I think. People getting off of work.

[saberwolf]

It kinda sucks I'm just lying here on my bed bored trying to use this game to entertain me...

I like having Amnished here, even though he thinks I'm scum, cause at least I get to talk and play the game while I'm here...discussion is always good.

cookie: Amnished

[forbiddanlight]

Flavor: Alexander Anderson. Note that I've only watched the first episode, so I don't know much about him....

That makes a hell of a lot of sense actually.

Yeah.

[Netopalis]

Well, it's good to know that the flavors match the roles. That info may come in useful later.