Newbie 827 - Store Katana (Scum Win!)

[Wysp]

Also, the vote record for that lynch was:

[quote](5) XScorpion - NewAgeWarrior, julienvonwolfe, Messiah, Wysp, XScorpion
(2) NewAgeWarrior - purple princess, Excedrin
(1) oramiuri -

adamrights

[/qupte]

So yes, Adam was around then.

[RayFrost]

You have scum marked all over you, and as soon as I claim cop you want me lynched. That doesn't sound townie to me.

eh, if somebody claims cop, you are town, and they claim a guilty on you, then you will be inclined to try and get them lynched, since they are fake-claiming and, thus, scum. y'gitme?

[RayFrost]

I'm saying that to say why him pushing for your lynch when you claimed a guilty on him is a NULL TELL.

[NewAgeWarrior]

My bad. I misread page 1 as AR being replaced into day 2.

And i know your scum wysp, thats why.

[RayFrost]

My bad. I misread page 1 as AR being replaced into day 2.

And i know your scum wysp, thats why.

try proving he' cum from cum tells and the like throughout the game rather than just screaming from the banisters that he's scum.

[julienvonwolfe]

Indeed. I think NAW is defending himself in the only way that could be expected to work, by trying to discredit the cop claim. Wysp seems to have pulled it off fairly horribly... but considering other elements of his play, perhaps that's to be expected.

I will think on this.

[RayFrost]

Indeed. I think NAW is defending himself in the only way that could be expected to work, by trying to discredit the cop claim. Wysp seems to have pulled it off fairly horribly... but considering other elements of his play, perhaps that's to be expected.

I will think on this.

So far, he hasn't really given much in the way of actually showing that Wysp could in fact be scum.. if I see proof that wysp could be scum along with the matter of him claiming cop and miing himself up...

then I might be inclined to believe it, but not until then.

[Wysp]

...Point. I hadn't considered that. The only fake-claim I'm familiar with is the townie claim. So yes, that would be a null tell.

Seconded with RayFrost above. I'd like to see some evidence.

[NewAgeWarrior]

I was wrong about his mistake, and i can't prove anything at this point.
I think its odd that he couldn't keep his investigations sraight though. you'd think a cop would be more careful.

As i said before, this is bad for the town.

[Wysp]

It's hard to keep track. I coulda sworn that Ray was replacing Adam, but I was wrong.

Also, that's an appeal to emotion. "Oh, too bad, lynch me and the town loses." People will say, "I don't want to lose, so I won't lynch him." The scum gets off the hook, people die, mafia wins.

[NewAgeWarrior]

Also, that's an appeal to emotion. "Oh, too bad, lynch me and the town loses."

Its not an appeal to emotion. its fact.

[Wysp]

As i said before, this is bad for the town.

I was referring to that.

I learned it the hard way earlier in the game: every little comment counts.

[NewAgeWarrior]

This IS bad for the town.

every little comment counts.

so does keeping track of your investigations.

[NewAgeWarrior]

EBWOP

"investigations" (i forgot quotes)

[Wysp]

Yes, that was my error. I had a few RL issues pop up and I never bothered to amend myself because I thought I was right. Regardless, I'd like to see the others' thoughts on this development.

[julienvonwolfe]

Where's Orph? They seem to be hiding.

[RayFrost]

Where's Orph? They seem to be hiding.

Well, one thing is for sure... either NAW or Wysp are likely scum, though the other one could be bussing... that'd be an obvious thing.

[orphevs]

Hey guys, sorry about disappearing like that. The last few days have been CRAZY with work. So since no one has counter-claimed Wysp I have a really hard time seeing why we should mistrust him. Someone has to be cop, and if it was anyone buy Wysp I don't see why they woulnd't have spoken up by now. Personally, I'm leaning strongly towards voting for NAW, but I don't want to put a vote out for anyone this early at such an important stage where maf could easily quick-lynch if I'm wrong.

@NAW:
Do you think that Wysp is lying about being the cop or about you being maf? If he's lying about being cop why hasn't anyone counter-claimed? If he is the cop and he's lying about you being maf, why would he do that?

[julienvonwolfe]

Hold on. Somebody has to be the cop? How do you know that?

[RayFrost]

Hold on. Somebody has to be the cop? How do you know that?

Well. This is a very good question.

[NewAgeWarrior]

Indeed, that is a very good question.

[orphevs]

Sorry, not used to playing games where there are multiple possibilities of what roles are out there and what roles aren't. I didn't realize we had some starting setups with a cop and some starting setups without.

[NewAgeWarrior]

Yea Newbie games will have all possible layouts on page 1. not all other games do this though.

[Tenchi]

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VOTE COUNT

(1) NewAgeWarrior - Wysp

(1) Wysp - NewAgeWarrior

Not Voting: RayFrost, julienvonwolfe, orphevs

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

DEADLINE: October 25, 2009 9:00 PM PST

[RayFrost]

I see potential orph/NAW cuz of the lack of suspicion by NAW of orph's obvious lack of attention / lie (not noticing the set up in the first post? highly unlikely...). Of course, that's speculative as of the moment. It's obvious that either wysp or NAW = scum, but I'm more inclined to believe wysp, as we have not had a CC. This is kinda tough...