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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:48 am

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This is really weird.

I mean, this is really weird from mipe being town, but it's also really weird from mipe being scum. The only role I can think of that has any kind of innate kill immunity would be a SK, and there was only the one kill last night. A minority of GFs have it. Either way you look at it, you're looking at picking probably one role out of fifteen that's unlikely to be in the game at all. (This discounts selection bias from a 4 page day 1, yes.) And I cannot fathom what SpyreX would be doing with a gambit like this.

I suppose you can argue the odds that (he was given it + he has it) > the odds (he was given it). That still seems marginal, though. The most interesting thing is that mipe was pretty calm and uninterested for someone being told they were about to be shot. You'd assume that if he was a SK, he'd understand the reaction he'd get after when he was shot and didn't die.. why would you not claim bulletproof in that situation? I don't think it takes much imagination to claim being given a BP, either. The OMGUS was pretty weird, though - feels like a standard scummy "attack my attacker" thing.
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To say it bluntly, I'm a moon bunny and your mind will be shattered if you try to kill me.
Whether Mipe was lying or not, I expected mindshattering. Not only was there no mind shattering, but I still don't see how he could possibly ask who was killed when apparently he's already warned spyrex against shooting him. A Full claim might be in order here.
This, I agree with. KMD, I don't understand your vote there.

mipe: How did you feel when SpyreX talked about shooting you?
Given that you're voting SpyreX because you don't believe someone else caused his kill to fail, should I be voting you if I believe he did try to kill you? Why is SpyreX lying about shooting you?
Mufasa: What exactly makes you think he breadcrumbed it?
Zak: I don't think that mipe is definitely scum, I want to try and figure out what's going on with him before we lynch anyone. I have no idea about zwets but would be happy with his death, since it's intentional and he has the meta defence at the ready... I think Xyl's stance is a bit weird, he started out voting for zwets and then didn't argue for zwets being vigged over mipe; I don't really know what was so convincing about the case against mipe; it's easy enough to vote zwets like that when it's unlikely a majority will follow. That, and he smells funny. :P I guess most other people are primarily talking about mipe and to some less extent zwets, so it depends on how that turns out; I don't have a good read on either of them yet.

I actually think it's important to hear from a bunch of people and get their views on record, here. Yesterday was unproductive mostly because it was short with no discussion, I don't want a repeat performance; I don't think we've heard anything much from about half the game.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:53 am

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Reisen U. Inaba, Part 1
An exiled moon rabbit with a collected composure and impersonal demeanor. Her piercing red eyes grant her the power to distort reality, create illusions, and generally cause insanity. Considering that her gimmick lies in making her own attacks disappear (even if they reappear later - sometimes from different directions), she tends to be viewed as flashy but useless. Isn't it sad, Reisen?
Her right hand is almost always depicted pointing like a gun.


Vote Count:

mipe (L-2) ~ Sotty7, Xylthixlm,
Kmd4390,
Zakeri, dramonic, SpyreX, forbiddanlight

zwetschenwasser (L-7) ~
dramonic, Xylthixlm,
The Incredible Hulk
Zakeri (L-7) ~
Kmd4390,
Kmd4390
SpyreX (L-7) ~ mipe
Kmd4390 (L-7) ~ Pesco47

Not Voting:
Elmo,
forbiddanlight, mipe,
Mufasa,
Pesco47,
Plum,
SpyreX,
Vaya,
Zakeri,
zwetschenwasser
[size=0]dramonic 0 | Elmo 0 | f-light 0 | Kmd 0 | mipe 0 | Mufasa 0 | Pesco 0 | Plum 2 | Sotty 0 | SpyreX 0 | Hulk 1 | Vaya 2 | Xyl 0 | Zakeri 0 | zwet 1[/size]
-This is an "extra" vote count; battery power will drop at the regularly scheduled vote count tonight.

--With 15 alive, it will take 8 to drop a nuke on someone.

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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:54 am

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I believe Mipe's claim. :-)
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:15 am

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More killing zwet plz.
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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:20 am

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link fail Vi ^_^;
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:27 am

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The Incredible Hulk wrote:
More killing zwet plz.
What do you think of mipe, here?
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:33 am

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Mufasa wrote:XYL how am I scum for avoiding a quick lynch?
^ scum
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 12:42 pm

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Hulk think mipe scum too. Mipe lie, mipe scum.

Hulk can vote mipe.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:13 pm

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If I had only realized mufasa was in this game maybe my bullet would have had a new home (hint, mufasa + rope = creamy goodness).

HOWEVER, that still doesn't change the fact(s):

1.) I was given mystical powers and TOLD ABOUT IT last night.
2.) Mipe has claimed vanilla.
3.) Mipe has said that they had no idea they were BP (see 1).

This, really, to me means that Mipe either knew and opted to let me waste my shot (awesome!!) or I got day RB'd (to protect Mipe) orrrr Mipe got protected, didn't know about it and that protection lasted through day.

:roll:

FURTHER, if Mipe is scum I am calling a temporary UNBREAKABLE ALLIANCE to lynch the hell out of mufasa and pesco. I have a hunch that this set of lynching will net us 2 scum, maybe 3.

But, alas, they wont lynch themselves. I need your support.

For the cost of 1 vote you can help end scum today. Just one vote.
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:22 pm

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Hulk on board.

Hulk need know when zwet die.

Hulk help kill mipe, then other help Hulk kill zwet.

Hulk VERY ANGRY with zwet hammer only! HULK HAAAAAAAAAATE!

ARGH!


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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:41 pm

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Mufasa then pesco sounds good atm, but I'll reevaluate pesco tomorrow.
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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:59 pm

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I could easily lynch pesco spyrex.
The only reason why I was leaning towards the thought that perhaps mipe did have BP given to him was the reason it was way to convenient that the vig didn't work against him. This makes a red flag go off in my head that he is most deffinitely a vig or he is a BP townie.... hmmm.

Zwet will hammer soon.. most likely..

Other than that XYL all your doing is throwing out accusations without any concrete reasonings. Oh wait you didn't even give reasons.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:23 pm

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Can't say I'm thrilled about the idea of another quicklynch(I never even got around to posting Day 1 before it ended), but I can't see how this situation makes any sense with mipe being a vanilla town. I'm not going to stall a scum lynch just for the sake of more discussion.

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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:27 pm

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Mufasa wrote:Other than that XYL all your doing is throwing out accusations without any concrete reasonings. Oh wait you didn't even give reasons.
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:28 pm

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Oh, and for the record, SpyreX is totally town.
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:37 pm

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Okay, so rereading, sorry for delay I'm a big meanie face k thx.

Mipe is erratic early with his explained random voteon the guy who random-voted him and the character claim (which I can't view now because I'm on the computer I'm too lazy to get Adobe installed right on even though it works on my sister's account go figure) and a weird semi-parry towards DN to which he only adds a vote after Xyl pressures him to do so and Pesco also votes him.

So he's as good a proposed shot from SpyreX as any.

In the post after SpyreX's proposed shot Mipe claims he's a Moon Bunny and "your mind will be shattered if you try to kill me."

So I find it weird that instead of everyone, SpyreX especially, asking what the heck that meant and what effect the "mind shattering" would have on SpyreX/the kill no one does and Spy shoots.
mipe wrote:
SpyreX wrote:Riddle me this. Why didn't my kill work?
So, who did you try to kill?
But
that
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Lazy/busy/sorry about it.

Mipe's Vanilla claim is obv not the whole story, though. No special abilities does not line up with claiming the mind-shatter thing correlating to the failed Vig shot. Apparently, to those more familiar with the flavor the mind-shatter/(somewhat?) bulletproof bits line up as well.
mipe wrote:Meh.. I guess I must..

Like Dramonic guessed, I'm
Reisen U. Inaba
. While the fact that I can shatter minds seems scummy, actually, I haven't done anything wrong. Only thing I want is to get all these troublemakers destroyed so I can go back to my original schedule.

I'm the
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The first time he mentions mind-shatter it appears to be in response to Spy's proposal that Spy dayvig Mipe. Now it's just a flavor bonus. Compare:
mipe wrote:Help me, EIRINNNN!

To say it bluntly, I'm a moon bunny and
your mind will be shattered if you try to kill me.
VS.
mipe wrote:While the fact that I can shatter minds seems scummy, actually, I haven't done anything wrong.
The first time he insinuates the 'mind-shatter' thing affects kills and is role/ability-related. The second time he insinuates that the mind-shatter is just flavor and asserts explicitly that he has no special powers. The two don't line up and the second doesn't line up with actions today (i.e. SpyreX's failed dayvig shot).
mipe wrote: Unless I read uncorrectly, he said that he shot me. I have no protection whatever unless somebody put some kind of protection to me.
Which double doesn't line up with this; Mipe obviously knew that he had some sort of power that affected kills on him/the player who tries to kill him at the very least. It does, however, sorta line up with the possibility that Mipe is scum who faked not knowing that Spy shot him to, say, better set up a clueless VT claim which FAILED.
Xylthixlm wrote:
Mufasa wrote:Yah I'm leaning towards mipe breadcrumbing his bulletproof as well, at this rate I'm not gonna put the L-1 on yet, don't want a pre-mature lynch.
^ scum
My gutdar agrees. Read on Pesco isn't as strong, hmph. Mipe now, others later.

Darnit, Vaya hammered where I would have.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:38 pm

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NO! YOU TOOK AWAY MY HAMMER!
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:40 pm

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Zwets, it's seriously been too long. Or not long enough. Or something.
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:43 pm

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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:47 pm

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Since I've played with you.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:08 pm

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This game is going to be short if everyday ends in like 48 hours 0_o
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:24 pm

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dramonic wrote:This game is going to be short if everyday ends in like 48 hours 0_o
I won't complain.
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:28 pm

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why would you not complain? It cuts down hard on the scumhunting possibilities when everything ends in a quick-lynch <_<
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:29 pm

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I'm starting to think the XYL has a post limit... Not exactly sure yet.
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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:30 pm

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I don't know, is he the type to write elaborate analysis?
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