The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

VP Baltar · Post Post #1100 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:58 am

By the flavor you gave previously, wouldn't Sajin likely be named "The Rodent Tamer"?

VP Baltar · Post Post #1101 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 4:59 am

Also, I want to see if KK is correct about some double voting ability from Rosso, so he needs to vote at the next available opportunity.

Plum · Post Post #1102 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:00 am

dramonic wrote:So you're trying to kill your master Sajin and a guy named the rodent tamer, who arguably fits for a master.

You're saying someone named the rodent tamer can kill people when YOU are the actual rats?

Come on, if you're going to lie be creative about it

Yeah. Pretty odd; shouldn't Sajin, your slavedriver, be the Rodent Tamer? Why should the Rodent Tamer be the SK?

Basically, is that your final answer or if it's not true do you want to do yourself a favor and tell us the truth?

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1103 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:05 am

Dramonic, I don't get your argument.

VP, if Sajin was the Rodent Tamer, I'd laugh my ass off.

Plum, the Rodent Tamer is the SK. My Role PM specifically says so.

Plum · Post Post #1104 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:07 am

If that's it, then that's it. You can die now by me. VP, KK, shall I leave off my vote so you can poke around with Rosso then? I'm just interested in seeing Kmd hang soon.

SpyreX · Post Post #1105 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:08 am

Well THIS thread got busy last night.

One thing, fo sho - don't put credence in the "er" theory: my role has no er on it. We've had a coincidence that better not turn into a lynch rationale.

That said: KMD is a scum rolecop. I mean seriously now.

Get er' done.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1106 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:09 am

Plum, you don't care that I can help the town in ways that are actually confirmable?

Btw, Milk is obvtown. Scum are scared of investigative roles. The SK is especially scared.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1107 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:10 am

SpyreX wrote:Well THIS thread got busy last night.

One thing, fo sho - don't put credence in the "er" theory: my role has no er on it. We've had a coincidence that better not turn into a lynch rationale.

That said: KMD is a scum rolecop. I mean seriously now.

Get er' done.

^Scum who doesn't want to fakenameclaim.

Unvote, Vote SpyreX

. Not expecting a lynch. Just making a statement more than anything.

VP Baltar · Post Post #1108 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:11 am

@Plum- I think it doesn't hurt anything to test KK's theory. I'm not sure where he is getting it from, but we may as well try it out. Kmd is all but confirmed scum at this point, so there is no better place to test such a theory out.

SpyreX · Post Post #1109 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:13 am

Yea, I offered that up ahead of time because I am "afraid" to fake-claim when the criteria that was being "used" was already made pretty clear.

I've offered up the "not all names end in er". No one else feed this hunting right thar'.

Lets get this party started, in heeeere.

stark · Post Post #1110 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:14 am

How does he enslave you, KMD?

Plum · Post Post #1111 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:14 am

Kmd4390 wrote:Plum, you don't care that I can help the town in ways that are actually confirmable?

Absolutely not. Scum Rolecop, as SpyreX said, sounds plausible. Plus I subscribe to the theory that claimed neutrals ought to be hanged ASAP.

Frankly, I don't trust you to work in the Town's best interests because, guess what, you don't win with the Town. And I'm sure as hell not sure that your claimed wincon is what it says on the package.

VP Baltar wrote:@Plum- I think it doesn't hurt anything to test KK's theory. I'm not sure where he is getting it from, but we may as well try it out. Kmd is all but confirmed scum at this point, so there is no better place to test such a theory out.

I'm not entirely sure what benefit I see in publicly outing whether or not Rosso is a doublevoter. Once that's explained fine, now's as good a time as any because Kmd is getting hanged today no question.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1112 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:14 am

VP, I hope by scum you don't mean mafia.

Spy,

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1113 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:17 am

Stark, not sure. All it says is that he enslaved me and made me do bad things. It doesn't even elaborate on what he made me do. I assume he's some kind of scientist or something and enslaving me is the way the rats see it.

Plum, no, I don't win with the town, BUT. The town winning IS in my best interest because it's what would be keeping me alive.

populartajo · Post Post #1114 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:21 am

Kmd, you are lying. I know you are an intelligent guy. You say you are the Rats. You say Sajin is your master. Then, why didnt you assume Sajin was the Rodent Tamer when it was the obvious thing to do? Also how does your flavor explain the Rodent Tamer is the SK?

Also what is the idea behind revealing a double voter?

VP Baltar · Post Post #1115 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:23 am

Plum wrote:I'm not entirely sure what benefit I see in publicly outing whether or not Rosso is a doublevoter. Once that's explained fine, now's as good a time as any because Kmd is getting hanged today no question.

Well, he could be a scum double voter. The only reason I see to keep it secret if he is town is if scum have something to counteract this (see Jahudo's Cowboy Bebop Mafia). I dunno, maybe it is worth waiting.

KK, are you inclined to believe that Rosso is a scum double voter, or are you unsure about his alignment?

@kmd-yes, you are mafia. good effort at causing confusion though.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1116 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:25 am

I highly doubt Sajin is the Rodent Tamer. The PM talks specifically about both as if they are two different people. I wouldn't mind lynching Sajin to test it though.[/desperate plea]. It tells me specifically in my power that the SK's rolename is Rodent Tamer.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1117 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:26 am

VP, nuh-uh.

Plum · Post Post #1118 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:26 am

Kmd4390 wrote:Plum, no, I don't win with the town, BUT. The town winning IS in my best interest because it's what would be keeping me alive.

No. Anyway you don't have to survive to win, do you? Or so you claimed previously. Anyway, for the same reason no one leaves a claimed SK around because he says he'll act like a Town-directed Vig. As if.

I'm sorry if you got your hopes up because I unvoted you as an incentive for you to claim info I think the Town could possibly use. Having considered, I see little reason to out whether or not Rosso's a double-voter. If KK comes by and gives me a good explanation we'll see, but for now I'd like to see Kmd hanged ASAP.

Vote: Kmd4390

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1119 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:26 am

I wish I was mafia. This would be a helluva Gambit.

SpyreX · Post Post #1120 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:27 am

Yes that is totally a

afterall. Lets go back and look at this:

You claim musician. People call poppycock. Then the "er" theory gets brought up (which, at surface, is a decent one). You start moving towards lynch.

THEN CHOOSE YOUR ADVENTURE:

1.) I, as scum, opt to jump in and deny this theory because it is true - instead of using the information gathered to make up a real fake claim that makes sense.
2.) I, as town, opt to stop this line of apparently good reasoning

because it is wrong.

That aside:

If Sajin was your lynch target, why in the hell would you name him town? By nature wouldn't that make him harder to justify lynching? Hell, if you knew the players name and won when they were dead in a power role setup just go "BAM I AM DAYCOP LYNCH SAJIN LYNCH ME TOMORROW IF LYING K THX"

And the offer of confirmable information that doesn't help with alignment is truly the

.

This done be a rolecop. He done need be hung.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1121 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:28 am

Plum, I have to be alive when I win. But as soon as I do, I leave the game and a lynch isn't wasted. I agree with you about SKs. I'm not a SK though. I don't kill. There is no harm in me being alive.

Kmd4390 · Post Post #1122 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:31 am

Spy, you're scum so suck it. I don't need to convince anyone, but I'm right.

The daycop thing is too risky. Who would trust an investigation too early? And how would I justify looking at Sajin of all players? Hell, I usually take daycop claims as Gambits. Claiming a guilty Day 3 is much easier. Maybe even Day 2 in case I were to die.

populartajo · Post Post #1123 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:32 am

Ok, Kmd needs to die.

Regarding Rosso. To be honest, I thought double voters are generally protown roles for endgame reasons.

But what is the basis for thinking Rosso is a double voter? What is the benefit on revealing that if he is?

Plum · Post Post #1124 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2009 5:33 am

Kmd4390 wrote:Plum, I have to be alive when I win. But as soon as I do, I leave the game and a lynch isn't wasted. I agree with you about SKs. I'm not a SK though. I don't kill. There is no harm in me being alive.

I'm not an idiot kthx. I have little reason to believe you're not a member of the Mafia; your behavior with Sajin does little to make me believe he was your lyncher target; quite the opposite (if you listed him as Town how would you justify using a Cop investigation on him anyway?). You're certainly not working in the Town's best interests.

I'm tired of this back-and-forth because it's not going anywhere new.

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