The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

[curiouskarmadog]

Official Vote Count (Page 43, Day 1)

Kmd4390 -11

(SpyreX, VP Baltar, Benmage, Battle Mage, Plum, dramonic, SocioPath, Sajin, KaleiÐoscøpe, Vaya, Papa Zito )
Snow_Bunny -4 (tubby216, Kublai Khan, alvins95, crywolf20084)
alvins95 -1 (populartajo)
tubby216 -1 (LlamaFluff)
KaleiÐoscøpe -1 (stark)
Vaya -1 (Kmd4390)

Not Voting:

Rosso Carne, Snow_Bunny, Kise, DrippingGoofball, milkshake, vollkan

Note: Deadline will be at the earliest, 10/19 6:00AM EST, with 26 whole votes available, it takes 14 to lynch.

Note:

Going to start looking for a replacement for alvinz95

[VP Baltar]

Wow, that was pretty interesting. Right now, my suspicion is that kmd actually is scum who is trying to WIFOM the town into letting him live at least one more day. Kmd, if your power does something to catch an SK, why wouldn't you claim something of that accord in the first place? Why go to all of the trouble of making a claim that is so different from what you allegedly are?

[VP Baltar]

Also, give your flavor again. If I'm reading your claim correctly, you are saying that you are some sort of SK-cop-survivor-lyncher?

[Battle Mage]

shit, just flicked to see we have lots more pages, and are at -4.

Unvote

BM

[Battle Mage]

-3. I cant count. -.-

BM

[Kublai Khan]

The "spoony bard" thing is one of those hilarious Japanese translation artifacts.

What's wrong with calling Edward "Spoony"? It describes him really well.

He also doesn't give us a name ending in -er (The Verber; ex. The Giver), as I hypothesize all role names should.

This is actually a very, very good observation. I can't believe I didn't notice this before. I really think Kmd is fakeclaiming now.

It's actually a very, very inaccurate observation. My role name doesn't end in an -er. And the mod could have easily changed to make it end that way.

Plus we don't know if any scum names

don't

end in -er.

Fine. I'm a NK-Immune Lyncher Survivor.

*facepalm*

All of my scumhunting has been genuine and will continue to be if I'm still alive. I just need a certain lynch to happen and if it does, I'm gone without you guys having to use a lynch to kill me. I can almost guarantee that I can bag the SK too based on something in my Role PM.

"Gone"? What does that mean? You leave the game? What happens to your win condition after you successfully lynch your person X?

Milk, the town doesn't have to lose for me to win.

Would you tell us otherwise?

I don't know who the SK is yet. I guarantee that I can later though. .

And the advantage for you in telling us this is what? Assuming you aren't the SK yourself (which is looking pretty damn likely tbh), doesn't you revealing that you have some guaranteed identifying info on them pretty much mark you?

Pretty much this. You've already admitted that you lied about NK-immunity. So at this point, the only reason I can think of not to vote for Kmd4390 is that it would probably prevent the SK from killing anyone else.

I want to know more about Kmd4390's win condition before we move forward.

[Battle Mage]

I am The Rats. Special type. Self-aligned. My power is the thing that I'm not saying, but will catch the SK. Win condition is that I win when someone (I don't know their alignment) is lynched. If people want me to even say who that is in order to stay alive, I will. They could still be scum, so I don't mind saying who it is.

oh.

Vote: KMD

A...neutral claim? lol

Your roleclaim seems to comprise 2 distinct mechanics:

1. You can catch the SK.
2. You need to get someone lynched. NB: This person is

NOT

the SK. It is logical to assume this person is town, so if you are telling the truth, you should claim this person before we lynch you.

As it is, the 2 points dont make sense together. Why would a lyncher NEED, or even WANT to catch an SK? Where's the incentive for you to use your ability at night?

Frankly it just seems like an attempt to make it look like you can be useful. In practice, your claim makes no sense- and if it was true, you would undoubtedly claim to have found the SK on Day 2, we lynch that player, and then turns out to be your lyncher-target.

Heh, even the worst case scenario is pretty good.

BM

[Battle Mage]

KMD can hang now.

BM

[Vaya]

Did you suspect Kmd before claim?

Why does Spy's suggestion warrant voting him now?

I answered this before already. Yes I suspected him previously. I'm not voting him solely because of Spy's suggestion, it's just another reason I definitely want him to be the lynched today.

He also doesn't give us a name ending in -er (The Verber; ex. The Giver), as I hypothesize all role names should.

This is actually a very, very good observation. I can't believe I didn't notice this before. I really think Kmd is fakeclaiming now.

It's actually a very, very inaccurate observation. My role name doesn't end in an -er. And the mod could have easily changed to make it end that way.

Plus we don't know if any scum names

don't

end in -er.

Really? Meh, my name does, every person's revealed so far does, and a few other users confirmed that theirs were as well. I assumed that everyone's was, but I guess I was wrong.

Seriously guys, Kmd's probably just stalling at this point. He still should be today's lynch. If he's telling the truth by some odd chance, he'll just be kill by the SK tonight anyway, but I really doubt he is anyway.

[Vaya]

@KK
Also, I was instigating that he was making his claim up, not that he's scum because his name doesn't end in -er.

[DrippingGoofball]

Good job guys.

vote: Kmd

[VP Baltar]

Happy B-day, DGB! I give you the gift of Kmd's head on a platter.

[Kublai Khan]

I was waiting for a win condition, but Battle Mage is right. If we entertain any info about a SK from Kmd390, we're basically letting him single-handedly choose our lynch. Or his lynch rather. There's no incentive for us to help him win.

unvote:
vote: Kmd4390

[Kublai Khan]

unvote

Wait..

Does Rosso Carne want to place the 13th vote?

[Kmd4390]

k, my target is Sajin.

I know the SK's rolename. I'm taking that to the grave though. At night, I can investigate and get a result of "<Insert Role Name Here>" or "Not <Insert Rolename here>". So I'd catch them on either an investigation or if they were to try claiming their real rolename. This was the bit I wouldn't reveal on the off chance they claim the real name. Looking at what the name is, they might.

Pretty sure Benmage is SK. Vaya, Llama, and Spy are my top suspects for mafia.

It was worth a try.

Oh and my win condition is just to get Sajin lynched and be on his wagon. If he's NK'd, or if he's lynched without me, I need the SK to die any way possible.

[VP Baltar]

So you are basically saying you have a backup win condition?

[Kmd4390]

Not exactly. Just a new target if Sajin is NK'd or lynched without me. Problem is, I have to work to find that target. And me finding them could benefit the town. Hell, if a known SK is in the game, scum may even shoot them. Scum hate SKs too.

[VP Baltar]

I still would like you to claim your actual flavor now.

Also, why not give the name of the SK if it is something that you believe will benefit town? You would like to save yourself correct?

[populartajo]

The first was a fakeclaim I made up. The second was a "fuck this, I'm going down, let's do it with style". Now I'm just trying to stay alive, so I've put up my real claim and am willing to do what the town wants.

Vote: KMD.

[Kmd4390]

>.<

I went back to my Role PM to get the flavor and I'm actually confirmable. I screwed up on the results I get. I'm a namecop. So I can tell you guys someone's rolename tomorrow and confirm that I'm a namecop at least. Then when I have the SK bagged, I'll let you know.

Anyway, the flavor. I had a good life in the sewers and actually seem to be there completely by choice. Sajin has me as his slave though. I'm not told what, but he's made me do some pretty bad things. I go up from the sewers one night and see someone (the SK) kill someone else. No idea who. I run and hide. The next night, same thing happens. I go up during the day in a human suit to get revenge on Sajin, and if I have time, take out the SK.

And yes, I'd like to save myself. I'll give you the SK when I can.

But seriously.

Give me one night to confirm myself. I can give someone's rolename. I'll hit someone VERY unlikely to be killed by anyone. No one, except maybe the SK, will even want to go out of their way to get me lynched by using their kill that way. If I don't have a rolename tomorrow, I'll accept my lynch tomorrow.

[VP Baltar]

bussing your buddy tajo?

[Kmd4390]

Oh, and if there's no "er", I might be able to get scum too.

[Kmd4390]

So I can seriously help the town and am confirmable. I have no motivation to lie about my results because I'm dead the minute I'm caught.

[populartajo]

bussing your buddy tajo?

No. Isolating him and agreeing with his lynch despite not having reread all the thread.

What gave you that impression?

[VP Baltar]

bussing your buddy tajo?

No. Isolating him and agreeing with his lynch despite not having reread all the thread.

What gave you that impression?

The fact that you said pretty much nothing all game and then when Kmd is on the ropes you come in to try and finish him off as quick as possible. It's fine if you are. I like it when scum vote their own partners, but at least have the decency to confess to it.