Mini 858 - Dexter Season One (Game Over)

[chamber]

I haven't been bothered by chamber that much previously to this as a lot of the phrasings and argumentation he's using I've used and use as town. But this last post of his is pretty terrible and strikes me as almost over eager to claim.

I've been lynched on many occasions without being able to say everything I've wanted to say. I just want that to not happen here. In a normal game I'd try and wait till l-1 or maybe l-2, but given that nature of this set up the threat of l-1 or l-2 is good enough for me.

[SocioPath]

i haven't voted. it looks like you are well on your way, so defending yourself might be a good idea.

I should have phrased that better. I already am defending myself, I meant I'll claim should enough people threaten votes.

I won't be threatening a vote.

Mainly because I'm not seeing it.

I think its a silly wagon.

A Jebus wagon though would be classy.

Vote: Jebus

[Locke Lamora]

Chamber: do you have any thoughts on other players? What do you think of DDD right now? Also, answering Budja's question would be good.

Charter: I know you have to be brief, so who are your top three suspects?

I don't like Jebus' disappearing act. I want to hear a lot more from him now or I call active lurking.

[chamber]

Chamber: do you have any thoughts on other players? What do you think of DDD right now? Also, answering Budja's question would be good.

Charter: I know you have to be brief, so who are your top three suspects?

I don't like Jebus' disappearing act. I want to hear a lot more from him now or I call active lurking.

As far as I`m concerned I still have a `vote` on charter, I`m just using my own suggestion, as such I thought his question was kind of pointless. I have no read of ddd, he hasn`t said much for me to get a read on. I`m working on evaluating everyone else. Speaking of which can almaster answer my questions please.

[Sotty7]

Jebus needs to be poked or replaced ASAP.

[charter]

Top 3: Chamber, Konowa, DDD/Socio

[AlmasterGM]

What advantage do I gain as scum for reinforcing that I still want him to claim? What advantage do I gain as scum for suggesting the voting scheme I suggested?

1) a) You avoid backpedalling, which looks even more scummy.
b) If you persist enough, he might cave and give the scumteam what it wants.

2) Predictability. Because we don't know what L-0 is, it's a huge risk for the scumteam to vote for itself. It's also harder for them to know when they need to start busing and/or claiming. By creating proxy-voting, they can gauge when they need to get on and off wagons without the risk. There is also the possibility that members of the scumteam posses daytime abilities - proxy voting will tell them when the use of those abilities might be needed.

[Konowa]

Back.

Should be caught up within an hour.

[chamber]

1) a) You avoid backpedalling, which looks even more scummy.
b) If you persist enough, he might cave and give the scumteam what it wants.

So you aren't voting me because I said it a second time then, you are voting me because I said it the first time? If I'm town how was I supposed to answer his question?

2) Predictability. Because we don't know what L-0 is, it's a huge risk for the scumteam to vote for itself. It's also harder for them to know when they need to start busing and/or claiming. By creating proxy-voting, they can gauge when they need to get on and off wagons without the risk. There is also the possibility that members of the scumteam posses daytime abilities - proxy voting will tell them when the use of those abilities might be needed.

Town doesn't benefit MORE from predictability? I think you are crazy for suggesting that. Hypothetic day abilities are also hypothetical, how about waiting till one turns up dead.

These answers were terrible imo. I think your vote for me was terribly scummy. I can't figure out if you are scum or just bad at the game though.

[Juls]

Prods and vote count later tonight after class

[Cyberbob]

These answers were terrible imo. I think your vote for me was terribly scummy. I can't figure out if you are scum or just bad at the game though.

His answers might have been terrible but that doesn't make your criticism of them any less ironic. I would easily call your behaviour towards the claims at the start of the day just as bad.

[chamber]

These answers were terrible imo. I think your vote for me was terribly scummy. I can't figure out if you are scum or just bad at the game though.

His answers might have been terrible but that doesn't make your criticism of them any less ironic. I would easily call your behaviour towards the claims at the start of the day just as bad.

I obviously support everything I've said so this is only ironic to those that think my opinions are terrible. I honestly can't see how anyone could put my opinions in the same light as GM's though. I admit mine were somewhat subjective, but his are just terrible. In his first point he left no way for me to respond as town. So he was already decided that I was scum by that logic, yet he pointed to that instance as making me vote worthy.

[Konowa]

Can you explain how that statement is dumb Cyberbob? I understand that it is WIFOM, but why would scumchamber come out and do something so blatently scummy?

Agree with the statement that Jebus needs to get in here and start posting or he needs to be replaced.

[charter]

I am leaning Konowa since he keeps defending chamber.

[Cyberbob]

Can you explain how that statement is dumb Cyberbob? I understand that it is WIFOM, but why would scumchamber come out and do something so blatently scummy?

Er, which statement are you referring to?

[Konowa]

Sorry I did not make that clear, I was referring to your post 125.

[chamber]

I am leaning Konowa since he keeps defending chamber.

I understand that scum can defend town just as easily as town can, but what makes you think hes more likely to be scum than town? If you are assuming I'm scum shouldn't you be determening my alignment before blaming him for defending scum?

[charter]

He could be scum defending town, or a buddy. It doesnt look like Konowa’s town.

[chamber]

He could be scum defending town, or a buddy. It doesnt look like Konowa’s town.

Why is it impossible for town to defend town, or scum for that matter.

[charter]

There is no reason for anyone to defend your actions. They were scummy.

[charter]

Wait, what the hell? You just said 'town defend scum' as if you're scum. Explain.

[chamber]

Wait, what the hell? You just said 'town defend scum' as if you're scum. Explain.

"or scum for that matter" was intended as a hypothetical from your pov. I lead with town and added "for that matter" to indicate as such. My actions aren't scummy imo so there is every reason to defend them.

[charter]

And this hypothetical is that you are scum. Why would you include that in there?

[Budja]

As far as I`m concerned I still have a `vote` on charter, I`m just using my own suggestion, as such I thought his question was kind of pointless. I have no read of ddd, he hasn`t said much for me to get a read on. I`m working on evaluating everyone else. Speaking of which can almaster answer my questions please.

1. Is charter scummy in your opinion?
2. Do you really have no read on everyone else?

I am leaning Konowa since he keeps defending chamber.

So which do you believe is more likely: scum-defending-scum or scum-defending-town.

DDD/Socio

Why? (In 20 words or less )

Jebus needs to be poked or replaced ASAP.

QFT.

... why would scumchamber come out and do something so blatently scummy?

I don't see konowa's view here as a scumtell. All the same, "too scummy to be scum" is a fallacy (despite RBT's play in our last game) and you should know it.

@Konowa, what do you think of chamber play,

apart

from the great miller arguement.

[SocioPath]

DDD/Socio

Why? (In 20 words or less )

Neither of us have posted a lot, and yet we've both attacked Jebus for essentially the same thing, so the votes on him reek of hypocrisy.