Okay, so shuffling work around didn't go so good. But for what it's worth, here's what I've put together about my case on NAW. It's not as polished or developed as I wanted because I have to run and write a report that I'm already late on, but I think I've managed to cover all the substantive stuff that I fould scummy.
So to begin with I'm not even going to mention the roleclaim. That's been discussed to death and I think people already have their opinions on it. So in general I have been a bit concerned at NAW's play-style because he seems to generally try to keep very safe. He has told the town to be more aggressive in stating their suspicions here:
Post 240 (in response to a comment he made about people needing to "stick their necks out to protect the town":
Getting town killed is not good. however, sitting on your ass doing or saying nothing out of fear of being lynched is just as bad. sometimes waiting for scum to slip is not enough. sometimes you need to make the scum slip up.
(no risk no reward, no pain no gain, ect...)
This
by itself
isn't really scummy to me. However, the fact that he himself seems so reluctant to vote without asking other players for their advice and opinions on the player he suspects makes this comment scummy. It seems like he's unwilling to take his own advice. Of course he may just be reluctant because, like he said, he just doesn't want to lynch town, but that's just not the vibe I get from how he's been playing.
His discussion of no-lynch as an option we should consider even after Wysp was told it was a bad idea and agreed was also odd to me. If a beginner who doesn't really understand the way mafia is played on this site could understand that NL was a bad idea after a quick discussion of what NL leads to in the game, I really wonder why NAW didn't pick up on why it was a bad idea. This is especially odd since he is SE. As people started to question him for this and become more suspicious, n107 made his really stupid post voting for Wysp with no explanation so all attention was diverted from NAW. After everyone starts to really question n107 for this move, NAW jumps in and says that n107 is the most suspicious player to him (Post 122) and then disappears for 4 days. When he comes back he just says:
Post 141:
Sorry guys. I've been here, but there really isn't much to say at this point. Everything I would have said has been said. I agree that N107 is looking scummy right now...
And in the same post:
I also have a weird vibe at Xscorpion. I'm not sure why, I just do.
After his absence the focus is so much on n107 that his NL discussion is all but forgotten. Also, I think the random throwing in of suspicion with no backing on XScorpion is scummy. It gives NAW a way to have a suspect even when n107 is replaced.
Later, in post 201, he lays out a list of suspects and then asks three players, two of which are the two who are voting for him, why they are voting that way. Here are the relevant quotes:
Post 201:
adamrights- scummy looking predecessor, hasn't done much to improve the image
Wysp- scummy behavior, jumpy vote, but I believe it has been more noob behavior than scum
NAW- Role claim, No-lynching opinions
Xscorpion- OMGUS posts and bad reactions to pressure
oramiuri- lurking for the most part.
@pp
You voted for me after my role claim. Is this the only reason for my vote, or do you have others? Do I still appear scum to you or have you simple had no reason to change your vote?
@excedrin
You voted for me on your first (or second) post, at the time it seemed you were concerned with my no-lynch additude. Do you still belive i am scum at this time?
@vonwolfe
you are the most experienced here. your vote is on wysp. so, do you still think wysp is scum or that he has just been a noob? Who else is scum in your opinion.
This seems to me like a way to try to shake off the votes on him. It gives the impression that he's accepting the votes since he lists himself with the others, but at the same time it points out that many others look suspicious. This whole post may be a small piece of evidence, but it's the fact that there are a serveral small pieces that makes me lean scum on NAW.
In post 231, after Omamuri made a comment asking Excedrin who to vote for, which I think was meant rhetorically, he quickly jumped on her and said that it was a scummy comment, then pointed a FoS at her. Once others said that Omamuri didn't mean it literally he doesn't even bother to agree that it wasn't a literal comment and take back his FoS. He doesn't even mention it anymore at all.
That night XScorpion is lynched and Excedrin is NK. Excedrin had a vote on NAW, which makes me a bit suspicious. After this NAW posts:
Post 270:
Damn you xscorpion, and damn you mafia.
@messiah
Your analysis is very well though out and put together. It certainly raises my attention at her ATM.
And from the same post:
Just a theory as to why Excedrin was killed. He was on to something as far as the 3rd vote theory goes, or he was on the right track to catching scum. Its not much, but its something.
The "damn you mafia" thing is a classic scum-tell, according to Julien's post 278. More suspicious to me, though, is the second quote. Excedrin was killed, one obvious interpretation of why is that NAW if scum who felt threatened by his vote and so took him out with his scumbuddy, and NAW immediately, before anyone else throws out theories on why Excedrin was taken out, throws out another theory that throws suspicion on Julien, Messiah, and/or Wysp (the "third votes", unless I misunderstand the term). This deflects attention away from the other possible theory before it can even be stated, and it give a large number of other players to question. Seems like it would be a great way for maf to throw the town's attention away from them. The idea of NAW being framed is still a possibility, but again, there are enough little pieces of evidence that I think they all sort of support one another.
From that point forward he hasn't seemed to be nearly as prone to making accusations or stating suspicions. This may just be because for the most part from N1 until the suspicions were more strongly on PP he was mostly just defending himself, but I think he could defend himself and still point out suspicious moves by others. His reluctance to hammer PP, even now that we're so close to the deadline, is also a bit suspicious to me. He seems pretty confident that she's the most scummy, but he hasn't hammered. If he's town I can't see a reason for this. If he's maf then he'd know that she's town, and might be worried about being the hammer on a townie because it would attract suspicion. Not sure if this argument makes sense, it just occurred to me more recently. That's basically what I have so far that makes me suspicious besides gut feeling. So that's my case. Sorry about taking so long to get it in, but things have been a bit hectic for me recently.
