The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

[Kublai Khan]

@VP Baltar: You voted for Kmd4390 before Plum's case, then agreed with her. What's your reasons for considering Kmd4390 scummy?

[VP Baltar]

@KK-what bothers me is that all of his scumhunting this game feels horribly fabricated. Volkan pointed this out regarding his stances on DN. I pointed it out regarding his "spamming" accusations against benmage. I don't normally feel forced scumhunting from Kmd, so I think it's reasonable to conclude that he's scum.

Has his scumhunting struck you as odd at all or does it seem genuine to you?

[Kublai Khan]

@KK-what bothers me is that all of his scumhunting this game feels horribly fabricated. Volkan pointed this out regarding his stances on DN. I pointed it out regarding his "spamming" accusations against benmage. I don't normally feel forced scumhunting from Kmd, so I think it's reasonable to conclude that he's scum.

Has his scumhunting struck you as odd at all or does it seem genuine to you?

I've played with him twice now where he was town and his behavior is consistent with how I've seen him play as town. But, Kmd4390 is definitely one of those players that's just on a different mental wavelength than I am. His scum-hunting has never been convincing (to me) in the past, but I think the longer he's left alive the more likely he is to either make a scummy mistake or make a good town observation.

In a

27

25 player game with no Night 0, I'd much rather lynch on 1) suspicious early claims, 2) suspicions based on actions that led up to our first townie deaths or 3) completely anti-town or otherwise unreadable players. I'm not seeing Kmd4390 fall under either of those categories.

[DrippingGoofball]

OK I'll never catch up with this game.

Who are we lynching?

[DrippingGoofball]

One of these 4 players is scum:
tubby216, Kublai Khan, alvins95, crywolf20084

vote: Kmd

[Sajin]

@plum/stark- So what I also listed KMD as doing do you not consider a scum tell or do you consider it a town tell? While I agree it alone is not indicative as anything, surely it is not a good thing to have a bad track record. Voting for that alone would be bad reasoning I agree.

[Papa Zito]

One of these 4 players is scum:
tubby216, Kublai Khan, alvins95, crywolf20084

y halo thar DGB

I'd like to hear your reasoning on tubby and Cay plz.

[VP Baltar]

Do you think KK is scum PZ?

[Papa Zito]

Do you think KK is scum PZ?

I'm leaning that direction. Too bandwagon-hoppy, too Snow_Bunny-tunnelly for my taste.

Who put the brakes on this game?

[stark]

@plum/stark- So what I also listed KMD as doing do you not consider a scum tell or do you consider it a town tell? While I agree it alone is not indicative as anything, surely it is not a good thing to have a bad track record. Voting for that alone would be bad reasoning I agree.

To be honest, I'm not sure if I have a very good read on KMD. But in terms of "track record", a case needs to be more substantial than that.

Are you planning on claiming, KMD?

[Kmd4390]

Just woke up from sleeping after 40 hours straight awake. Reading now.

[Kmd4390]

BM, I voted Ben before and would be willing to lynch him.

Socio, you were one of my weaker scum reads and didn't seem very active, so you made the list.

Claim:
Musician. I can play music to someone at night. If they like the music, they reach a spiritual state which leaves them unable to do anything, but also protects them. If they don't like the music, they kill themselves over it. So I'm a JK/vig and don't know which when I target someone.

[VP Baltar]

Stark-why did you ask Kmd to claim at L-3?

Kmd-why did you claim so readily at L-3?

[Sajin]

@plum/stark- So what I also listed KMD as doing do you not consider a scum tell or do you consider it a town tell? While I agree it alone is not indicative as anything, surely it is not a good thing to have a bad track record. Voting for that alone would be bad reasoning I agree.

To be honest, I'm not sure if I have a very good read on KMD. But in terms of "track record", a case needs to be more substantial than that.

Are you planning on claiming, KMD?

Did you read at all what you just quoted?

When will you start contributing?

[Papa Zito]

Stark-why did you ask Kmd to claim at L-3?

Kmd-why did you claim so readily at L-3?

These are excellent questions.

[Kmd4390]

VP, no one else had more than 4 votes (L-10). Either I was going to continue to get run up and claim anyway or we'd be stalled until something actually happens.

[curiouskarmadog]

Official Vote Count (Page 39, Day 1)

Kmd4390 -11

(vollkan, SpyreX, VP Baltar, Benmage, Battle Mage, Plum, dramonic, SocioPath, Sajin, KaleiÐoscøpe, DrippingGoofball)
Snow_Bunny -4 (tubby216, Kublai Khan, alvins95, crywolf20084)
alvins95 -3 (populartajo, Kmd4390, Papa Zito)
stark -1 (Vaya)
tubby216 -1 (LlamaFluff)
Rosso Carne -1 (milkshake)
KaleiÐoscøpe -1 (stark)

Not Voting:

Rosso Carne, Snow_Bunny, Kise

Note: Deadline will be at the earliest, 10/19 6:00AM EST, with 26 whole votes available, it takes 14 to lynch.

[Vaya]

Unvote

I don't trust kmd's claim at all, it sounds fake to me. I especially don't like the whole 'I don't know if my target is jailkept or killed.' I suspect that he's likely a scum RB or JK who wants to account for when he kills his target. I'm also not liking how quick he was to claim in the first place.

Kmd, could you paraphrase your flavor?

[Papa Zito]

Yeah, I'm not sure why someone would kill themselves because they didn't like your music.

What determines if they like it or not?

[DrippingGoofball]

I tend to believe fast claims, and disbelieve slow ones.

unvote

[Kmd4390]

Vaya, my entire childhood was all about music. I started playing at a young age and most people were impressed. All I want is to share my music. I've just recently realized how strong my music really is.

Zito, they obviously kill themselves to make it stop.

And I have no idea what determines whether or not they like it.

[VP Baltar]

VP, no one else had more than 4 votes (L-10). Either I was going to continue to get run up and claim anyway or we'd be stalled until something actually happens.

Even though we still have 10 days until deadline you think nothing was likely to change?

[VP Baltar]

Vaya, why did you unvote in your most recent post?

[Kmd4390]

Without a claim, no.

[VP Baltar]

What do you think of Spyrex's previous suggestion that given the fact everyone has some kind of power in this setup, it's not a good idea to run several people up to a claim each day?