Mini 858 - Dexter Season One (Game Over)

[Cyberbob]

I'm starting to feel an air of stagnation in this discussion. I would be down for either a chamber or a Konowa lynch, with a preference for chamber.

I, however, just do not think that scum would act as blatent as chamber was though.

This is really really dumb, and you are looking mighty nice for chamber's scumbuddy.

[don_johnson]

hello. nice to be back in miami again.

Mod Note:

lol

[Locke Lamora]

His name claim doesn't do anything for me but it's not damning either. I'd still prefer role info, at the end of the day names are only what the mod wanted to make them.

Aren't roles only what the mod wanted to make them? I don't really get where you're going with this, or why full role info is going to help town more than scum.

Don: what do you think of Konowa?

Almaster: what's your thinking behind 'further in the investigation'? Do you think lynches are going to depend on more than just L-X?

[chamber]

His name claim doesn't do anything for me but it's not damning either. I'd still prefer role info, at the end of the day names are only what the mod wanted to make them.

Aren't roles only what the mod wanted to make them? I don't really get where you're going with this, or why full role info is going to help town more than scum.

Don: what do you think of Konowa?

Almaster: what's your thinking behind 'further in the investigation'? Do you think lynches are going to depend on more than just L-X?

Its a lot easier to make a name meaningless then it is to make a role meaningless.

[Locke Lamora]

So Budja's name claim doesn't make him any more believable but knowing what else he can do would? Why?

[chamber]

So Budja's name claim doesn't make him any more believable but knowing what else he can do would? Why?

I'd rather not coach him into being able to give answers I'm looking for.

[Locke Lamora]

Ok, how about we come at it from this angle: it's already clear that characters affect abilities, from the justification for charter's post restriction. In my opinion, Neil Perry makes sense as a miller. Now, if you're unsure about Budja's miller claim, does him claiming Neil Perry make you think he's more likely to be telling the truth, less likely to be telling the truth or have absolutely no impact on your thinking whatsoever? If it's the third, as I'm getting the impression it is, why does a perfectly compatible name claim not affect your opinion of the claim at all?

[chamber]

Ok, how about we come at it from this angle: it's already clear that characters affect abilities, from the justification for charter's post restriction. In my opinion, Neil Perry makes sense as a miller. Now, if you're unsure about Budja's miller claim, does him claiming Neil Perry make you think he's more likely to be telling the truth, less likely to be telling the truth or have absolutely no impact on your thinking whatsoever? If it's the third, as I'm getting the impression it is, why does a perfectly compatible name claim not affect your opinion of the claim at all?

I'm scum and I get given the name Neil Perry as either a safe claim or as my actual role. If I know the series well, or use my pregame time to research, it wouldn't be that hard to reach that a miller claim would fit perfectly. Yes it could also easily happen that the mod saw this instead but I don't think its impossible at all for a player to have done so as well. Given that, I don't think his name claim accomplishes much. Subsequently had he pulled out an extremely scummy name like the real icetruck killer then the wifom of him actually claiming the name would also more or less make it useless. If I thought a name claim was going to effect my opinion I would have asked for one. Finally to be clear I don't think he's scum, I'd just rather get him out of the way before end game.

[Locke Lamora]

I assume you have some previous game experience with a miller that made you want Budja dead as soon as he claimed.

[chamber]

Dead or reasonably happy that hes town. I don't like leaving millers in the middle for any longer than I have to.

[Locke Lamora]

Do you have any specific meta that influences your attitude towards millers?

[Budja]

Please just give in chamber. Your wrong, so obviously wrong. Why can't you see that.

If you want me dead, your probably going to have to lynch me. If I have any ability worth a NK, it is obviously not worth revealing it.

So chamber, if you had to vote for someone, now who would it be?
It really would be nice to know more of your opinions beyond your miller views.

[chamber]

Do you have any specific meta that influences your attitude towards millers?

If there was a specific game that made me think like this I no longer remember it. I'm pretty sure this is my first game with a day1 claimed miller on this site.

[don_johnson]

day 1, first post is how miller claiming is done right. big discussion on this in cowboy bebop mafia. juls was miller, claimed first post. big discussion. end result: null tell. asking for role reveal is anti-town. name claim: null tell for reasons chamber presented. no reason to waste more time on this subject.

konowa? i'll do a reread in iso, but as yet i am sorry to say i don't really have a good read on anyone. i know my alignment and i know that when artem plays town he's good, so i trust his opinions but will develop my own asap.

continue...

[Juls]

Vote Count

AlmasterGM

( )

don_johnson

( )

Budja

( )

chamber

(Cyberbob, charter, AlmasterGM)

charter

()

Cyberbob

( )

Debonair Danny DiPietro

( )

Jebus

(Debonair Danny DiPietro)

Konowa

(don_johnson)

Locke Lamora

( )

SocioPath

( )

Sotty7

( )

Not Voting :

Jebus, Konowa, Locke Lamora, SocioPath, Sotty7, chamber, Budja

Deadline :

November 4

[AlmasterGM]

Almaster: what's your thinking behind 'further in the investigation'? Do you think lynches are going to depend on more than just L-X?

First, I think we can be fairly sure voting is not evenly weighted. Second (and I'm much less sure on this one), I suspect certain characters placing their votes certain places may lead to certain results. So, yes, although I have no idea what those results are.

[chamber]

OH MY GOD, HE FISHES AGAIN. LYNCH HIM!

K.

Vote: chamber

really?

Yeah, really.

So to be clear, you are voting for me because I 'fished' a second time?

[AlmasterGM]

OH MY GOD, HE FISHES AGAIN. LYNCH HIM!

K.

Vote: chamber

really?

Yeah, really.

So to be clear, you are voting for me because I 'fished' a second time?

Clear. Also, your proxy-voting idea was pretty awful.

[chamber]

OH MY GOD, HE FISHES AGAIN. LYNCH HIM!

K.

Vote: chamber

really?

Yeah, really.

So to be clear, you are voting for me because I 'fished' a second time?

Clear. Also, your proxy-voting idea was pretty awful.

What advantage do I gain as scum for reinforcing that I still want him to claim?

What advantage do I gain as scum for suggesting the voting scheme I suggested?

[charter]

I want chamber dead. The sooner, the better.

[don_johnson]

I want chamber dead. The sooner, the better.

i can be okay with this. i could answer his questions for him if he wants, but i am guessing they were directed at someone else.

[chamber]

I want chamber dead. The sooner, the better.

i can be okay with this. i could answer his questions for him if he wants, but i am guessing they were directed at someone else.

I would like Almaster to answer them please. Also if there is enough people wanting me dead to get me lynched please say so before adding more votes so that I can defend myself before randomly dying pre majority.

[don_johnson]

i haven't voted. it looks like you are well on your way, so defending yourself might be a good idea.

[chamber]

i haven't voted. it looks like you are well on your way, so defending yourself might be a good idea.

I should have phrased that better. I already am defending myself, I meant I'll claim should enough people threaten votes.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

I haven't been bothered by chamber that much previously to this as a lot of the phrasings and argumentation he's using I've used and use as town. But this last post of his is pretty terrible and strikes me as almost over eager to claim.