Mini 188: Texas Holdem Mafia - GAME OVER!

[Thesp]

Here's an unofficial votecount:

Iammars- 6 (Aelyn, Thesp, Dranko, Thok, Mastermind of Sin, EmpTyger)
Bamboo- 1 (iammars)

Not voting (5): Bamboomancer, Quagmire, rajrhcpfreak (2), kristocker

Alright, sorry that I hadn't used my last post, but I was waiting for LML to answer a question about my role.
1st: A full explanation of my role. I am 72 unsuited, the Beer Hand. Every night I can buy someone a beer. If that person is scum, then I die. If that person is inoccent, then we both live. The clarification I got is that if there is a doc and he protects me he will not protect me if I find scum. I also have unlynchability (You all feel bad for me). I have no idea what happens if you try to lynch me. I asked that too and LML said he couldn't tell me. I didn't mention this earlier becasue I wanted that answer too.
2nd: All-in. I will not be going all-in today. I am willing to take the risk of what happens if I am attempted to be lynched.
3rd: Plan for tonight.
--Me: Investigate Bamboomancer (My random OMGUS vote. I'm not really getting any scummy vibes off of anyone.)
--Doc: Protect me. This won't save me from hitting scum, but it will save me from the mafia killing me off to frame Bamboo.
Good luck town, and I'll see you tomorrow.
(And as for the six word post, as I said, I do better with restrictions I make up myself [see Bizzare Mafia])

This is almost certainly a total, utter farce. Not mentioning it earlier because you were waiting on a response? Please. This is a way for scum justify not going all in, and for them to provide some rationale for lynching today instead of using the all-in mechanic.

I also would like to see Bamboomancer go all in against Iammars. Think of it this way, Bamboomancer, it will save you the need to ++ to get chips. Furthermore, this will also test his unlynchability, as if he's telling the truth he won't die on the all in, and we'll have confirmed what might be quite a potent role. I

strongly

urge no one else to put the last vote on him until a

very

compelling case can be made for somone not all-inning Iammars, as I don't see it.

[Aelyn]

Agreed. Just in case,

Unvote: Iammars.

Bamboomancer, I will be very disappointed if you don't go all-in on Iammars in your next three posts, or give a VERY compelling reason why you shouldn't.

[kristocker]

Bamboomancer, it will save you the need to ++ to get chips.

What does this mean? Is it a typo or some sort of shorthand I am unaware of?

[Aelyn]

++ing is posting which is completely devoid of actual content, and is designed simply to increase the number of posts made. It's normally used on forums where having 500 posts or so is considered a mark of status, and is derided because the status is obviously not gained. In this game, it's simply posting random stuff to get a higher chipcount.

[rajrhcpfreak]

Aelyn or Bamboomancer could go all in. as long as one of them isnt a power role.

[Bamboomancer]

I have what is, in this game, a very powerful role. I wasn't trying to ++ or whatever, and I'm sorry I didn't go back through and look but the flat out truth is that i've been the most vocal during this game and that scares everyone because it gives me the chip lead.

What I want to say is that I probably won't live through the night. If I die, my chips go into the pot. If that is the case, I urge the town to be VERY suspicious of whoever casts the lynching vote on me as they will get all the chips.

I am NOT willing to go all in vs Iammars because I am not 100% sure he is scum.

I apologize for asking for a vote count, but if we could get a LITTLE mod interaction in this game I'd be a lot happier. Vote counts aren't usually something we should have to ask for.

Yes, I was the first to say that Iammars might be scum, and actually, I was sure I was already voting him. I would vote now, but that would put him one from lynch and we've determined that I need to be chewed out before that happens.

[Thok]

What I want to say is that I probably won't live through the night. If I die, my chips go into the pot. If that is the case, I urge the town to be VERY suspicious of whoever casts the lynching vote on me as they will get all the chips.

Huh? If you are night-killed then nobody can cast the lynching vote on you.

I agree that we should decide who casts the final vote today-I'd be happy with Thesp or rajhcpfreak making that vote as I feel like they are relatively unlikely to be scum. Alternatively, we could have one of the low stacks make the final vote, just to even the stacks up.

[Aelyn]

Aelyn or Bamboomancer could go all in. as long as one of them isnt a power role.

I'm hardly a power role as such, though I'm not entirely vanilla either.

Thoughts on Bamboomancer's comments: I'm always a little leery of someone who says "I'm unlikely to survive the night" - this screams to me to be a scum setup to say "OMG, the mafia didn't kill me, they must be trying to frame me!" when they mysteriously don't kill themselves overnight.

Bamboo, do you have a role beyond the nightkill thing? And if so... why are you convinced it's so powerful?

So, everyone, would you mind saying if I should go all-in on Iammars today? I'll obey the town's will.

[Bamboomancer]

First: A role beyond what nightkill thing.
Yes, I have a role, but I'll only share it if enough people want me to.

Second: I meant to say "The person with the lynching vote against the person who dies tomorrow", not just me.

Third: If it's the town's wish, I WILL be willing to stop posting until someone surpasses me so that they can go all in on me.

*sigh*

[EmpTyger]

rajrhcpfreak:

Aelyn or Bamboomancer could go all in. as long as one of them isnt a power role.

Are you just mentioning Aelyn because of his stated willingness to go all-in? Because, honestly, I’m haven’t seen anything that he’s does that’s more suspicious than an average player. Whereas Bamboo had those overly guilty posts early in the game; so between the 2 I’d rather see Bamboo go all-in. But I feel more suspicious of you than Aelyn; I mean, asking 2 specific players to say whether they have a power role?
I’m still having trouble resolving your doublevote ability, though.


Aelyn:
I can think of 3 possibilities regarding Bamboo, one of which in particular is jumping out at me for a crazy metagame reason... does that make any sense?

[rajrhcpfreak]

Aelyn was willing. thats why i mentioned him. i assumed aelyn doesnt have a power role since he said that he was willing. i just wanted to know before we forced Bamboomancer to go all in.

we could have one of the low stacks make the final vote, just to even the stacks up

thats waht ive been thinking too.

[rajrhcpfreak]

i forgot to mention this earlier.

ill be gone till monday night or tuesday

you dont have to add this to my chip count

[Mastermind of Sin]

I can't really explain it, but the more I think of it, the more I think Iammars

isn't

scum. It's just a feeling I'm getting, though.

unvote

[Thok]

Mastermind of Sin, who do you think we should go after? Also, Iammars is claiming that he's immune to lynching, so lynching him either verifies that or catches scum.

Bamboomancer, I don't think it's a good idea for you to stop posting, mainly because it would take a while for any of us to catch up to you. I do find it weird that you are claiming a "powerful role" now, given that you earlier claimed that you would be willing to go all in if the town asked you.

Aelyn, right now I'd prefer if Bamboomancer went all in on Iammars, but if that doesn't happen I guess I'm OK with you (or myself or a random volunteer) using the all-in instead.

Here's an unofficial Chip count. All chip counts probably have an error of plus or minus 1 chip. For example I haven't tried to figure out all of the drink issues, but I have dealt with all of the multipost issues.

bamboomancer-23
EmpTyger-18
rajrhcpfreak-15
Thok-15
Aelyn-13
Thesp-13
Maximus/Mastermind of Sin-11
kirstocker-9
Dranko-7 (Last post May 20)
Iammars-5
Quagmire-4 (last post May 22)

[Thesp]

I'm getting tired of all this from Bamboomancer right now. I think he's scum to the core, and my current guess is he's a serial killer, as I find it unusual his reluctance to all-in Iammars (who if he's scum, it would be unusual for him to be so strenuously resistant to the idea). In any case, here's my thoughts at the moment:

1) If Iammars actually is innocent, Bamboomancer is probably flaming scum. This would explain the reluctance to go all in against Iammars.

2) My next guess as to who's scum beyond Iammars and Bamboomancer is Dranko20, who has stopped posting here when all the good stuff started happening and Iammars started getting a serious bandwagon after him. Assuming Iammars turns out to be scum, it would be much harder for Dranko (if he's scum too) to post without either unvoting or pushing the vote harder, as his vote was already on Iammars.

3) At this point, I really don't care if Bamboomancer claims to have a power role, I want to see him go all in against Iammars. If Iammars is scum, that's great. If he's not, we confirm Iammars while saving us time talking about Bamboomancer. I would like to hear everyone else's thought on this, because it seems to me the general consensus is that we still want him to all-in, and I'd I'd like to know if it's still the case or I'm mistaken.

4) We need an official chip count soon, as we've not had one in quite some time. Thanks for taking the effort to do the unofficial one, Thok.

5) Happy Memorial Day, all.

[LoudmouthLee]

Looking for 2 replacements

[EmpTyger]

Another point about Dranko: he stopped being vocal when he passed 5 chips. (I have him unofficially at 6, but it seems he was never assessed a chip for the drink in [91].) That is, once he was out of range for Iammars’s [then seemingly imminent] all-in. And he has been active in many other games in the 10 days he’s been absent here. I’d ask for a claim, but it looks like Dranko (and Quagmire) is already being replaced, and I’d like to first hear the replacement’s thoughts.


Thesp:

I would like to hear everyone else's thought on this, because it seems to me the general consensus is that we still want him to all-in, and I'd I'd like to know if it's still the case or I'm mistaken.

I myself keep hesitating over what is probably an overly imaginative metagame speculation which is moot in most situations. I honestly keep going back and forth about this but I’m not sure what to conclude. Let me reread the thread and think about it some more. Sorry.

[Bamboomancer]

GOD

I decide to get vocal in the ONE GAME where it matters and I get pummeled by scum.

IF Iammars is scum, this won't friggin save me, but fine, here it is, you get your way

I'm ALL IN AGAINST IAMMARS

Let this be a lesson to you kids, if you whine about something enough, you get it.

[Thok]

Sorry about forcing you to do this Bamboomancer.

Just in case Iammars is innocent,

unvote Iammars

so scum don't get a chance to jump on a proven innocent.

[LoudmouthLee]

Bamboomancer decides it's time

"All in", says a somewhat shaky Bamboomancer.

"CALL" says Iammars.

After the hands are revealed, it is necessary for Bamboo to muck his cards.

Bamboomancer

- Pocket 5's - Speed Limit - Townie who can force someone to have a post restriction - DEAD

That was the LAST hand of the day. Chip count will follow. NEW DAY WILL DAWN on Friday, June 3rd.

[LoudmouthLee]

Bump for the player(s) who still have NOT sent me night actions.

Jeez. Please keep up w/ the game, folks.

[LoudmouthLee]

3 hands folded last night.

kristocker - AJ - Ajax - Doctor
rajrhcpfreak - KQo - Marriage - Double Voter
Iammars - 72o - Beer hand - Unlynchable and "Buy a Beer" hider

With 7 alive, it's 4 to lynch.

Thread will be unlocked when chipcount is finished.

NOTE: Iammars received ALL of Bamboo's chips. Since Iammars is now dead, all of his chips, along with Kristoker's and Raj's go into the pot.

Ways to win the pot:

-Cast the lynching vote on someone.
-Go all in against scum.
-Have someone go all in against you, when you're pro town.

[LoudmouthLee]

Day 2 - Chip Count

EmpTyger-19
Thok-16
Aelyn-13
Thesp-13
Mastermind of Sin-11
Dranko-7
Quagmire-4

Pot - 53

With 7 alive, it will only take 4 to lynch

[Mastermind of Sin]

morning everyone. actually, good night. I should be asleep now, so that's what I'll do. just checking in and reminding you all that I have limited access. this is hotel posting. w00t

[Aelyn]

Yikes. No scum dead yet, which means chances are we're at lynch-or-lose today.

Also, with Bamboomancer dead it's impossible to say who Iammars protected. So we're basically relying on our scumdars now, unless there's another cop out there who fingered scum last night.

So, until we seem to be at a consensus:

No-one vote!

A more detailed analysis will come later.