/in-vitational 3: Brass & Shrapnel. Over. before 831

[Budja]

That is extremely crap logic, CKD .

[curiouskarmadog]

well, I have nothing to go on except for the fact that you have been on two townie lynches.

what do you have to go on?

also, everyone has posted...and there was no mad rush to quick lynch you...SO...either you or I are scum..and clearly we are the two lynch canidates today....

[Budja]

SO...either you or I are scum..and clearly we are the two lynch canidates today....

You may communicate with them at all times in this quicktopic thread.

Sounds about right to me. The scum could coordinate for a quicklynch.

If either of you is a super-saint, I think you should claim. Then the other can hammer the supersaint killing you both. Thoughts?

[MacavityLock]

also, everyone has posted...and there was no mad rush to quick lynch you...SO...either you or I are scum..and clearly we are the two lynch canidates today....

Except... not. What with the no kill, we're not at the point where quicklynching can happen (6 players, 2 scum). We are likely at LYLO however. I fear we're being suckered here.

I'm currently getting over a fever, and don't particularly trust myself at the moment. Can we not have a lynch right right now? That would help me out.

[Budja]

Actually, ignore my last post for now.
If the mafia quicklynch, the vigs could probably kill that person tomorrow, even through a doctor protection. Making a quicklynch a poor move for scum.

(24c) Role actions submitted during Afternoon resolve instantaneously, according to the role resolution table found below.

@mod, does this mean the mafia could make their kill at any time of day?

[Korts]

@mod, does this mean the mafia could make their kill at any time of day?

Yes.

[Korts]

Vote Count

(1) Kublai Khan- curiouskarmadog

not voting:

Kublai Khan, MacavityLock, Budja, ChannelDelibird, Porochaz

4 to lynch

Deadline is Oct 9th 6 PM EST.

[curiouskarmadog]

oh, there is only 9 players here...for some reason I thought there were 12....(3 name scum team)..with 9 players the scum team is probably 2...so a quick lynch hasnt happened.

Bud, quit role fishing

[curiouskarmadog]

"hasnt happened" = will not happen with the current situation if KK is town.

phone rang while typing.

[Budja]

The scum team

is

two. A quick-lynch is not really an optimal scum-tactic despite it being LyLo.

My "role-fishing" would be a good plan if the mafia did have an incentive to quicklynch and one of you making one of you/Kublai likely scum.

[curiouskarmadog]

unless we are both town and you are scum, like my inital gut read.

[Budja]

You are missing my point.

From your logic before, you believed Kublai to be likely scum as a quick-lynch has not happened and it was LyLo.
In this case, my idea is decent.
I showed that a quicklynch was not optimal scum-play and hence one of you need not be scum.
So my idea is not so good. So I retracted my idea.

BTW, if you think I am scum, just say it.

[curiouskarmadog]

I think you are scum...havent I implied that since day 1?

no, my point (kk and I) are the lynches today was flawed....I thought we had a scum team of 3...not 2...so the point is invalid....keep up.

[Budja]

vote: CKD

I really dislike your current play. The poor case, immediate vote and general wishy-washyness.

[curiouskarmadog]

lol

[curiouskarmadog]

where is wishy washy?

how is your case any better than mine?

hmmm, guess I understand why KK jumped to your defense.

[Budja]

Well, My case doesn't run solely of gut.

I dislike your position on me. Your strong Budja = obv-scum view died a bit suddenly, I don't seriously think my hammer should have influenced you so much. Then said I was neutral and now you say I am scummy again when I start trying to make a decent plan here.

I dislike your attack of KK. It is weak and clearly built on a fallacy and yet you stick to it. you placed a quick first vote in probable LyLo.

You play-style is looking very uncertain/wishy-washy. Hard to explain so call this gut if you wish.

Ok, its not watertight but its a damn sight better than anything else I can see.

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Another, far more obvious, reason for scum not to quickhammer is supersaints .

Scum might not kill due to possible bombs. Since the player-list is shorter, they might be trying to play in a "nightless vanilla" style. So this may not necc. be LyLo. (obv. don't rely on this).

[curiouskarmadog]

your thoughts on KK for the record?

[Budja]

Mildly townish. Kublai is active and I don't mind his recent posting.

[curiouskarmadog]

so you see no problem with him being on 2 townie lynches?

[Kublai Khan]

oh, there is only 9 players here...for some reason I thought there were 12....(3 name scum team)..with 9 players the scum team is probably 2...so a quick lynch hasnt happened.

Probably? Read the opening posts.

unless we are both town and you are scum, like my inital gut read.

There's other players in the game besides me, you & Budja.

I think you are scum...havent I implied that since day 1?

Yes, but then you dropped the case entirely. Now you're back on it?

so you see no problem with him being on 2 townie lynches?

At least I'm trying to scum-hunt. Not just lurkily sitting back and watching them get lynched so I can pounce on the active guy.

I kinda think curiouskarmadog is a good lynch, but maybe I shouldn't be leading the wagon again. However we really, really can't have another deadline lynch. We need to come up with an actual plan and execute it.

Since we've been paralyzed into inaction by having no information at our disposal, maybe we'll be able to come up with a plan by mass claiming. I know I'm ruining the advantage that super-saints have and that I'm doing a 180 on my previous position, but with so little activity in this game we can't really afford to risk another blind lynch. Maybe we'll have better luck if we catch scum in a bad setup lie?

Since it's LYLO and we've done so poorly so far, it's worth a shot.

[Porochaz]

vote KK

not entirely sure why this didnt happen instead of mole yesterday. Budja is also an extremely good lynch as well.

[Budja]

@Poro, explanations are nice.

@KK, After my previous posts I think a claim is bad at this point. Its the only thing stopping scum from quick-hammering or killing.

@CKD, that certainly not a point in his favour, but its not really a scum tell. I found both Quag and mole scummy too, mole less so.

[curiouskarmadog]

KK, what are you thoughts about Budja's plan to eliminate both of us today?...just curious?

also, can you jump on my wagon later instead of earlier please. I dont care if you jump on it, I just want you to be last on it.

[Korts]

Vote Count

(1) Kublai Khan- curiouskarmadog, Porochaz

(1) curiouskarmadog- Budja

not voting:

Kublai Khan, MacavityLock, ChannelDelibird

4 to lynch

Deadline is Oct 9th 6 PM EST.

ChannelDelibird will be prodded.