Open 169 - [Alternating 9P] OVER

[Haylen]

hi. Need to go

V/LA until Monday

due to having to move out, start a new job and start my first year at uni all in the space of a few days. You'll see me posting in the Newbie game i'm ICing occassionally, but only as an IC not as an actually player, if you see what I mean. I hope you can understand this...

[Deuxieme Octopus]

RayFrost, can you please outline everything about Khamisa's actions that you think is deserving of the title "anti-town? "

[RayFrost]

RayFrost, can you please outline everything about Khamisa's actions that you think is deserving of the title "anti-town? "

Here:

little posting (null tell on its own, but scum tell in combination with other tells)

fluff posting when little posting is given (fluff =/= stuff)

outright refusal to give content (so... outright refusal to help town scum hunt)

IoA via recapping with no stances/opinions/etc (until recently when pressure started getting heavy)

only finding the people dank found suspect suspicious with no original reasoning (buddying at minimum)

proposing the lynch of a claimed doc without really giving it support (tossing out bait for dumb-town to latch onto for a framing kind of thing)

that about sums it up.

[Empking]

Ray: Do you think Dank and Kham are the scum?

[RayFrost]

Ray: Do you think Dank and Kham are the scum?

I find it more likely with dank's method of defending kham and kham just following dank's logic, but... =/ it's a really iffy case and I wouldn't push it until we had a flip from one of them.

[RayFrost]

How about you though? What is your opinion of the interactions so far between me and dank as well as the case on kham.

[Empking]

I obviously support a Kham lynch. I'm not really sure about you and Dank but I'm leaning on it being a town-v-town argument.

[RayFrost]

I obviously support a Kham lynch. I'm not really sure about you and Dank but I'm leaning on it being a town-v-town argument.

What makes you think town v town?

[Empking]

I obviously support a Kham lynch. I'm not really sure about you and Dank but I'm leaning on it being a town-v-town argument.

What makes you think town v town?

It doesn't look like something that scum would draw themselves into.

[RayFrost]

So you don't think it could be distancing/bussing (both of us scum) or scum trying to save their partner (one of us scum)?

[Empking]

So you don't think it could be distancing/bussing (both of us scum) or scum trying to save their partner (one of us scum)?

It could be, but I don't think its likely.

[RayFrost]

Wow... the thread's gone silent.

Khamisa, dank, para, deux, LtA, empking, haylen...

anything new to add? Got anything to say?

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Wow... the thread's gone silent.

Khamisa, dank, para, deux, LtA, empking, haylen...

anything new to add? Got anything to say?

I'm waiting for Khamisa to actually speak up.

[RayFrost]

Wow... the thread's gone silent.

Khamisa, dank, para, deux, LtA, empking, haylen...

anything new to add? Got anything to say?

I'm waiting for Khamisa to actually speak up.

Problem with that:

if she lurks for an extended period of time.

Would you go for the lynch if she didn't speak up and it was near deadline?

[Paradoxombie]

Haylen tomorrow.

[Deuxieme Octopus]

Haylen tomorrow.

elaborate?

[RayFrost]

Haylen tomorrow.

elaborate?

Agreed.

[Lynx The Antithesis]

Wow... the thread's gone silent.

Khamisa, dank, para, deux, LtA, empking, haylen...

anything new to add? Got anything to say?

I'm waiting for Khamisa to actually speak up.

Problem with that:

if she lurks for an extended period of time.

Would you go for the lynch if she didn't speak up and it was near deadline?

Yes, it would be risky to switch so close to deadline as it may cause a tie resulting in no lynch today. Or we could end up making a rushed decision and selecting an even worse candidate. If she fails to speak up before deadline, then she deserves to be lynched based upon her posts so far.

[Paradoxombie]

Haylen tomorrow.

elaborate?

Agreed.

She's been active lurking the whole game. She has potential for tomorrow's lynch regardless of Khamisa's alignment.

[Empking]

Wow... the thread's gone silent.

Khamisa, dank, para, deux, LtA, empking, haylen...

anything new to add? Got anything to say?

I don't like this post.

(Asking for posts without doing anything to help it.)

I don't want to line up tommorrow's lynch yet.

[RayFrost]

Haylen tomorrow.

elaborate?

Agreed.

She's been active lurking the whole game. She has potential for tomorrow's lynch regardless of Khamisa's alignment.

Trying to set up a lynch for the next day without solid evidence is rather suspicious. Do you have proof that haylen is, in fact, active lurking and not inactive?

re empking:

I've stated my opinions and stuff, so I don't really know what I

can

add.

[Paradoxombie]

Trying to set up a lynch for the next day without solid evidence is rather suspicious. Do you have proof that haylen is, in fact, active lurking and not inactive?

Her posting is lacking. That's worthy of my attention.

Proof that she's active? Well she said she'd post in her other game. But I wouldn't even have mentioned that point besides that you asked for it. I don't need "proof" to suspect someone. It doesn't have to be innocent until proven guilty.

[RayFrost]

Trying to set up a lynch for the next day without solid evidence is rather suspicious. Do you have proof that haylen is, in fact, active lurking and not inactive?

Her posting is lacking. That's worthy of my attention.

Proof that she's active? Well she said she'd post in her other game. But I wouldn't even have mentioned that point besides that you asked for it. I don't need "proof" to suspect someone. It doesn't have to be innocent until proven guilty.

If we went with guilty until proven innocent, we wouldn't get anywhere due to the paranoia involved with it. It's not really possible to confirm yourself without flipping or having a flipped sane cop that stated an innocent result on you (even that isn't solid due to millers and godfathers).

Anyway... I'm still for a khamisa lynch. I'm willing to look into haylen, but don't expect a clear feeling of scum on that.

[Paradoxombie]

Trying to set up a lynch for the next day without solid evidence is rather suspicious. Do you have proof that haylen is, in fact, active lurking and not inactive?

Her posting is lacking. That's worthy of my attention.

Proof that she's active? Well she said she'd post in her other game. But I wouldn't even have mentioned that point besides that you asked for it. I don't need "proof" to suspect someone. It doesn't have to be innocent until proven guilty.

If we went with guilty until proven innocent, we wouldn't get anywhere due to the paranoia involved with it. It's not really possible to confirm yourself without flipping or having a flipped sane cop that stated an innocent result on you (even that isn't solid due to millers and godfathers).

Anyway... I'm still for a khamisa lynch. I'm willing to look into haylen, but don't expect a clear feeling of scum on that.

Where would we get without paranoia? How can one be overly suspicious when every player is a suspect?

People who aren't paranoid look like scum to me.

[RayFrost]

Where would we get without paranoia? How can one be overly suspicious when every player is a suspect?

People who aren't paranoid look like scum to me.

I'm not paranoid.

I stand with a neutral read on every person to start with. I don't lean either way until something catches my eye that flips my read one way or the other.

If I assume all are guilty before anything, we'll have cognitive bias (imo).