Mini 829 - Internal Struggle Mafia (Over)

[ryan2754]

Lynch me then. I win if town wins (should have hit DTM instead Iceman so I could get the last mafia by myself)

Don, although your intentions are correct (since I believe your town), you end result is incorrect. You are using a lot of WIFOM with regards to only one NK from last night. Of course the final mafia member knows I was going to shoot last night. Why would he then kill someone at night, and out me as SK, revealing that there is infact a final mafia? Any competent mafia member would have no killed last night strictly to keep the WIFOM with regards to me and my alignment.

I am town, and I beleive DTM to be the final mafioso, however I don't like Paradox' slipup.

If paradox is tracker, he should track DTM tonight, see if he finds anything.

ryan targeted a claimed town powerrole night two. a player who claimed "investigative" powers. granted, jason was scum, but it is a seriously risky vig shot and seems more likely a shot taken by an sk who is posing as vig. also, ryan should be dead. scum calling in a no kill would only delay their downfall and thinking scum targeted zach is a bit silly, so yeah, the fact that ryan is still alive is enough for me to be convinced that we should lynch him today. zach and i can look after each other tonight and lynch the remaining player in the morning if the game doesn't end. we could do it the other way around, but i am more convinced of ryan's guilt at this point that i would rather lynch him over paradox or dtm.

Ugh.
1.) I already explained my Jason kill. It was fairly obvious.
2.) Already explained this. When everyone agreed I should kill Iceman, I did. Why would the final mafia member kill then? It would out me as vig, as opposed to SK. Again, any competent mafioso would not kill, and leave the WIFOM situation with me as SK. And it's working.

[Zachrulez]

While Jason did flip scum, you shot at a claimed lie detector when the town generally agreed that you should hold your fire.

[Paradoxombie]

Since ryan agree's, there should be nothing else to discuss, imo. I don't think the town should give up more info about night actions.

[DTMaster]

@Town

In defence of ryan, Jason's play was still scummy. He also claimed to be RBed giving us an "inconclusive result" which would imply Toro. When Toro flipped Town RBer, the signs were there to interpret Jason's scum nature.

@Ryan
What's your case on me. If I'm the final mafia, what implicates me as scummier then you?

[don_johnson]

still wrestling here with the safer decision. i will post more later.

[don_johnson]

back to the original plan.

DTM today.

ryan: kill paradox tonight.

i protect zach, zach watches me.

i am betting the game on the fact that i think zach is town and am willing to give ryan the benefit of the doubt. if he is the last scum then he's going to have to get extremely scummy tomorrow to try and pull out a win.

vote: dtm

[DTMaster]

@Town
Are you certain with this. I have no qualms since I know Don is confirmed town based 3 player's stories.

[DTMaster]

BTW FYI: If there is scum there will be 2 kills at night. If 3 people die today we lose.

[DTMaster]

EBWOP: Err only if Ryan isn't scum that is.

[Paradoxombie]

Well Don's logic makes sense to me.

unvote, vote:DTMaster

[DTMaster]

Ok. Well I'm VT. I feel the gamble is worth it with the whole track/watch/doc thing. Don string up scum then.

[Paradoxombie]

I didn't realize that was a hammer. Oh well.

[DTMaster]

3 to lynch. Hence the whole Don wanted Zach to be careful with his vote.

[Paradoxombie]

3 to lynch. Hence the whole Don wanted Zach to be careful with his vote.

Doesn't really make a difference.

[don_johnson]

ryan: pleas vig paradox.

sorry dtm.

[alexhans]

Those in danger of suppression #36:

DTMaster (3) -

ryan2754, don_johnson, Paradoxombie

Paradoxombie (1)

-

DTMaster

Not Voting (1)

-

Zachrulez

With 5 alive it took 3 to lynch.

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Darkness.

Darkness is spreading all around you.

The only thing that resembles a light source is the red beacon on top of the temple, drowning everything in a wide range. The reddish fog and clouds produce an eerie looking view. Everything conspires to make your spine tingle.

Nightmarish creatures are flying like vultures around the altar, waiting for a share of the feast. Half giant fireflies, half featherless birds, not only they have beaks and claws but dozens of scorpion-like stings hanging from their stomachs.

Drums.

An entourage of hooded priests emerge from the temple dragging their tied sacrificial lamb. The one destined to liberate them from the punishment that's been bestowed upon them.

The leader initiatiates a chant in a strange language:

"M'naa Irk bregad, Innome G'demii"

A flash

I almost see their faces.

"Sib b'eeka il gluuk"

I need to stop this.

"Mre'as mo gr'me Koodoo ar"

I can't...! I need to...!

"f'tang!"

Pain.

But the instant before the knife is driven through the heart you can see a flash of doubt in all their faces. They can't ignore it. Their downfall seems assured.

Could it have happened any other way?

Remorse won't help now.

I need no mercy, world, What I desperately need is to correlate my mind's contents.

DTMaster, Vanilla Townie has been lynched, Day 4

I know they are out there... I know they haven't given up on me... Yet.

But I can't hear them anymore. I can't muster enough strenght to open my eyes and cry for help. I'm back there. In hell.

And I don't know if I can escape.

Night 4 has begun. It will end on Thursday 24 at 10:00 AM (GMT-3). Send your actions before then.

This will be a 48 hs night instead of a 72 hs night given the amount of players. day will not start until each player has pm-ed me to send a night action or confirmed their presence if they don't have one.

[alexhans]

Chapter 4: The triangle's dilemma.

The worn out knight returns once again, after a glorious deed, to the castle he risks his life for.

His mood is as black as his stallion. He knows there'll be no reward for his achievements, no gratitude for his endless sacrifice from those who harvest it's benefits.

But that mere fact won't be enough to deter him. It never has. It never will.

As he aproaches the gates he is welcomed by a young, beautiful woman. She skillfully assists him as he removes his helmet and then offers him a fresh beverage.

The knight gladly drinks it.

2 minutes later, he is lying on the ground. Dead.

ryan2754, Vigilante, has been eliminated Night 4

Flash

The future.

A vast space filled with nothing.

No distractions. No stages. No disguises. No scenes.

Three pools of light flow in every directon from the only from the only beings that exist.

Here and Now.

They are looking straight at each other, prodding, searching for the truth.

This is it.

The path you take will determine your survival.

Inaction is no longer an option.

There's nowhere else to escape to.

"He doesn't even seem to be struggling" - A faint voice whispers.
"Good. This is the greatest decision of his life. He better stay calm" - A determined voice concludes.

A triangle can point 3 ways. Wich will it be?

With 3 alive it takes 2 to lynch.

[Paradoxombie]

I think Don is scum. There is no reason for RC to have been killed by mafia N2 over Don, the claimed powerrole. I thought his role as Doctor was confirmed because he visited me when there was no NK, but toro had blocked the goon that night.

I also don't like how early on he was eager to have the vig killed, but later started wanting him alive, as it became more likely he's kill town than scum.

Don, claim your night actions from all game.

[don_johnson]

i already claimed my actions. why ask again?

paradox: do you believe that the set-up is devoid of a town protective role?

I think Don is scum. There is no reason for RC to have been killed by mafia N2 over Don, the claimed powerrole. I thought his role as Doctor was confirmed because he visited me when there was no NK, but toro had blocked the goon that night.

^^ seems like extreme retroactive thinking here.

zach: what are your thoughts?

[don_johnson]

Idiotking, Vanilla Townie Toro, Roleblocker
RedCoyote, Vanilla Townie ryan2754, Vigilante
hiphop, Townie
IcemanE Shrinehme, Vanilla Townie


DeathRowKitty, Mafia Goon
jasonT1981 , mafia ninja


who did you target last night paradox?

[don_johnson]

sorry for the triple post, but if you are tracker, shouldn't you have someone cleared by now? you should have targeted either me or zach. but you obviously didn't.

FoS: paradoxombie

zach: he should have reported his results immediately. why hasn't he? here's my confession:

i am only a two shot doc. i haven't been able to protect you the last two nights. i was bluffing.

note that paradox claimed his targets initially after you and i were revealed. he should have tracked one of us last night. he obviously didn't track me, and he obviously didn't track you. had he tracked ryan he would have said something, but he didn't. if you need more of a case i will be glad to work on it, but if you read dox in iso it should be obvious. if you are scum then you deserve to win. so whatever.

balls to the wall, brother.

Nobody visited don on night one.

I tracked Don who visited me N1.

^^ i am obvtown here. i think zach is town, but i want to here some more discussion.

[Paradoxombie]

i already claimed my actions. why ask again?

paradox: do you believe that the set-up is devoid of a town protective role?

I think Don is scum. There is no reason for RC to have been killed by mafia N2 over Don, the claimed powerrole. I thought his role as Doctor was confirmed because he visited me when there was no NK, but toro had blocked the goon that night.

^^ seems like extreme retroactive thinking here.

zach: what are your thoughts?

I don't recall you claiming them, and I can't find it. That's why I'm asking.

If I was scum, there was no way I could have known the vig wouldn't kill me like we agreed.I tracked ryan last night and he did nothing. It would be unreasonable for scum to expect that, wouldn't you agree?

I don't like that you're asking for Zach's thoughts before you give yours on him? You gambled a lot on the idea he was protown. You still so sure? Or did you plan on waiting for him to back you up before you reaffirm it?

[don_johnson]

i am confirmed.

yours and zach's results conflict

. if you are town and don't want to be lynched then you should be focusing on proving to me that zach is the final scum, not giving me lip. got it?

[Paradoxombie]

sorry for the triple post, but if you are tracker, shouldn't you have someone cleared by now? you should have targeted either me or zach. but you obviously didn't.

FoS: paradoxombie

zach: he should have reported his results immediately. why hasn't he? here's my confession:

i am only a two shot doc. i haven't been able to protect you the last two nights. i was bluffing.

note that paradox claimed his targets initially after you and i were revealed. he should have tracked one of us last night. he obviously didn't track me, and he obviously didn't track you. had he tracked ryan he would have said something, but he didn't. if you need more of a case i will be glad to work on it, but if you read dox in iso it should be obvious. if you are scum then you deserve to win. so whatever.

balls to the wall, brother.

Nobody visited don on night one.

I tracked Don who visited me N1.

^^ i am obvtown here. i think zach is town, but i want to here some more discussion.

You are not Obv town. And that's a damn scummy thing to say I think. Who thinks about how town they look? I see no reason to think you're town, and you've actually done many scummy things, especially early on. Also, you're only protects just happen to be ones that we saw? I'm doubtful.

You said yesterday that you had reason to believe ryan was SK, but didn't want to "play your cards". What was it?

[Paradoxombie]

i am confirmed.

yours and zach's results conflict

. if you are town and don't want to be lynched then you should be focusing on proving to me that zach is the final scum, not giving me lip. got it?

weak.

You are not confirmed as far as I can see. And

if

you're town you should convince ME instead of making threats, because if you don't I'm going to vote YOU and we'll lose either way. If you really were scumhunting me it wouldn't make any difference who I was going after. But now you want me to hush up on the arguments about you. huh.

I did recently notice the point you make about zach and my results, but I am unsure if a tracker would count as "visiting" someone. Also, why would scum fakeclaim watcher like Zach did?