Mini 852- Crayola Catastrophe Game Over (Post 1158)

[Kirbyoshi]

@mod: Please take me off of the "Not Voting" list.

[Kirbyoshi]

@mod: Please take me off of the "Not Voting" list.

EBWOP^

[Kirbyoshi]

@mod: Please take me off of the "Not Voting" list.

EBWOP^

EBWOP again

[Manzcar]

@people not voting
Why aren't you voting? Who would you vote if you had to place a vote right now?

because in my mind I do not have a definite lead as to where I should place my vote.

[SocioPath]

@people not voting
Why aren't you voting? Who would you vote if you had to place a vote right now?

because in my mind I do not have a definite lead as to where I should place my vote.

Not liking this.

There are no "definates" as of now, and you certainly can't say you don't have ideas about anyone so far.

Perhaps scum that is a little too worried to place a vote on someone they know isn't scum.

Withholding votes is withholding information.

[ChiboSempai]

I had a vote up until recently, it's just that I'm not sure who I wish to vote next

[Manzcar]

@people not voting
Why aren't you voting? Who would you vote if you had to place a vote right now?

because in my mind I do not have a definite lead as to where I should place my vote.

Not liking this.

There are no "definates" as of now, and you certainly can't say you don't have ideas about anyone so far.

Perhaps scum that is a little too worried to place a vote on someone they know isn't scum.

Withholding votes is withholding information.

Not liking this.

WIFOM. To say because I don't feel like I have a good enough idea or a definite idea in my own mind who I find scummy means I am scum trying to hide is scummy. Why are you trying to force an accusation and place suspicion because I answered a question? Do you think it is more protown to just vote for anyone or to vote when you feel comfortable about the vote? You are inferring that I am withholding information because I am not voting but I fully answered the question withholding nothing that I am thinking. So how did I withhold information?

[SocioPath]

There has been 9 pages of information, I'm sure you can infer SOMETHING of substance out of them.

If everyone waited for "definite"s, no one would ever get lynched, strictly speaking.

[Kirbyoshi]

Post coming later.

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SOG:

Do you not think this is scummy? It's one of the things you called Zazie out on.

[Pomegranate]

Snow_Bunny- don't have much of a read on her.
@SocioPath- I like his views. Leaning town.
@Kirbyoshi- Gut town read. He's also contributing a lot.
@Budja- I don't find the fact that he misrepresented the votes on chamber as scummy. He wasn't in charge of the vote count, and could have easily missed a vote. I don't think there's much else; he's on V/LA now.
@ChiboSempai- I don't find him scummy- kind of a neutral read, I guess. Don't see anything particularly interesting from him.
@semioldguy-Why did you vote for Zazie when she replaced in

just because it was her

? No matter hher playstyle, that's never a good thing.
Personally, I don't find it scummy to be not voting. I vote someone if I find them to be deserving of it; sometimes I don't feel that anyone is scummy enough for it, so I don't vote. It seems to me that you view a vote as something to be placed on one's top scum suspect, while I view it differently. I view it as something to be placed once someone has filled a certain scummyness quotient.
@GreenDude- Rolefished a bit, but in a n00bish way
@Manzcar- Don't get much content from him.
@Nachomamma8-

needs

to post more (when V/LA is over)
@ZazieR- Not sure. Will wait a bit.
@Josh Lyman- Haven't gotten much from him, except a breadcrumb. Not sure what to think.

SOG, I think I know who I would vote. And I will vote for him.

Vote: semioldguy

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As you can see, I don't have very many reads, but I'm doing this because I think it's important to contribute.

[Josh Lyman]

@Josh Lyman- Haven't gotten much from him, except a breadcrumb. Not sure what to think.

It wasn't a breadcrumb.

As you can see, I don't have very many reads, but I'm doing this because I think it's important to contribute.

This triggers my scumdar. "It's important to contribute" is usually something scum says when they feel the pressure of not lurking and yet can't convincingly come up with anything concrete.

You are about the only person* pinging me right now. So,

Vote: Pomegranate

*Except

ZazieR

, but I need to stay far, far away from the crazy right now.

[Josh Lyman]

I just want to be clear that I did that post correctly. My color is Dark Red, and

Pomegranate

's is Brown. They look very close, but not exactly the same. (I wanted to mention this before someone accused me of not posting in the right color.)

[semioldguy]

Post coming later.

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SOG:

Do you not think this is scummy? It's one of the things you called Zazie out on.

Depends. I don't ever like it, but I don't always find it scummy. It looks like it may have been in response to a prod. In which case an "I've received my prod and will catch up and post as soon as I'm done" is acceptable. Looks like that is more or less what happened.

However, I find Pomegranate's smattering of "I don't really know" reads on practically everyone in the game to be scummy.

[GreenDude]

My internet hasn't been working lately. I missed all the important stuff.

[Battousai]

Vote Count:

semioldguy (4) – ZazieR, SocioPath, Kirbyoshi, Pomegranate
ZazieR (1) – semioldguy
GreenDude (1) – Snow_Bunny
Snow_Bunny (1) – Nachomamma8
SocioPath (1) – GreenDude
Pomegranate (1) – Josh Lyman


Not voting (3): Manzcar, Budja, Chibosempai

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

[Pomegranate]

I will be V/LA on Saturday and Monday. After that, I will generally be V/LA on weekends.

[Kirbyoshi]

Post coming later.

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SOG:

Do you not think this is scummy? It's one of the things you called Zazie out on.

Depends. I don't ever like it, but I don't always find it scummy. It looks like it may have been in response to a prod. In which case an "I've received my prod and will catch up and post as soon as I'm done" is acceptable. Looks like that is more or less what happened.

However, I find Pomegranate's smattering of "I don't really know" reads on practically everyone in the game to be scummy.

Maybe because she knew she had to post something after she said "I'll post later," so she did. No one's done anything stand-out scummy yet, so I don't have much of a read on anyone yet either; you just seem scummiest to me.[/quote]

[Kirbyoshi]

Post coming later.

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SOG:

Do you not think this is scummy? It's one of the things you called Zazie out on.

Depends. I don't ever like it, but I don't always find it scummy. It looks like it may have been in response to a prod. In which case an "I've received my prod and will catch up and post as soon as I'm done" is acceptable. Looks like that is more or less what happened.

However, I find Pomegranate's smattering of "I don't really know" reads on practically everyone in the game to be scummy.

Maybe because she knew she had to post something after she said "I'll post later," so she did. No one's done anything stand-out scummy yet, so I don't have much of a read on anyone yet either; you just seem scummiest to me.

Dang it.

[Nachomamma8]

Unvote: SnowBunny

We're out of the RVS now.

Anyways, here's a question to everyone who voted charter: Why did you vote for him? I still have no idea why his lynching was turned into a policy lynch based solely on his playing style.

Chibo, why did you seem so ready to vote purely for Chamber's replacement? It seemed to me like you were trying to use the momentum of the bandwagon against him to carry the lynch to his replacement... If this isn't true, what pro-town motives did you have for viewing an "guilty until proven innocent" playstyle? How does that help the town at all?

Manzcar, why was defending Chamber scummy? Defending a player who has come under fire and has a bandwagon smashing into them is normally a pro-town action, for it prolongs the lynch and gives more discussion to the town.

Actual reads to come tomorrow, but I just got back from camp and Im too sleepy to post much else.

[Nachomamma8]

Zaz, to respond to your earlier question, I wrote in black.

[Budja]

Just a note that I am back from V/LA. Will read and get a post in today.

[Kirbyoshi]

Anyways, here's a question to everyone who voted charter: Why did you vote for him? I still have no idea why his lynching was turned into a policy lynch based solely on his playing style.

Bottom line, I thought him not explaining votes was scummy. If that's how he explains it every game, he could do it as scum. He was the scummiest person I saw; therefore, I voted him. Good question, Nacho.

[Budja]

OK, read 2/3 or so.

I really like Sociopath's 116 on chamber, exactly what I was trying to say.

Kirby is looking townish, I am finding myself agreeing with most of what he says.

The Budja case might seem good, but I'm not buying it.

This is looks off to me, (not because I was the one commented on ).

I really dislike semioldguy's attacks on Zazier, especially the "policy" one. Its just so illogical and hypocritical.

Chambers L-3 comment did look like a typical scum-trying-to-look-town comment for one.

Elaborate.

A newb-scum tell is for scum to be over-cautious about random votes in a effort to look pro-town.

vote:semioldguy

, mainly for your latest attack on Zazier which really makes your attempted pro-townish attitude look like a sham.

[ZazieR]

Post 121 – Scummy post from

Bunny

. First of all, acknowledging that it’s Chamber’s playstyle.

What's so scummy about that? I've seen playstyles like that before, so I'm not really surprised.

Check the linked post. You were making personal attacks to him regarding his mafia playstyle (See the first three sentences and the last two of the first paragraph) That's scummy.
Also, a question: Why do you still have your random vote active?

The part about Budja shows some serious fence-sitting.

Fence-sitting? I gave my opinion on it. What else did you want? A whole speech about why I don't buy the case?

The reason why I don't like this, is because you disagree with it. I can't see how you can see why some players can agree with it, while you disagree with it.

And as SoG already asked, explain the part about Sociopath.

I meant Sociopath pointing out SoG's rolefishing in post 32

What's bad about it?
It seems you like this less than SoG pointing out something he can see as breadcrumb. Why?
Also, if you didn't like SocioPath pointing this out, why didn't you mention me doing it?

But now for the thing that is really scummy. The part about SoG. Reason stated that he’s scummy is the vote jumping. Yet, she agrees that Chamber’s playstyle is scummy and she can see the Budja case. Meaning that she thinks that SoG had good reasons to switch votes, yet still sees it as scummy. Explain why.

One thing is the usual playstyle, the other is a specific situation. I can see why others would go for Budja case, but I don't think it's strong enough (more like a misunderstanding).
SoG's vote jumping I don't like, but that doesn't mean he can't have reasons to move from one place to another. I just don't like that he can't keep a vote in a single place. And that's not the real problem. The thing is that he moves back and forth from the players he previously voted. That, I don't like. I'm not saying that it's a scum marker, but it's something worthy of looking up.

Can you give your opinion of each SoG vote switch?

P.S. For some reason, this last bit doesn't appear in violet O.o

[ZazieR]

Hi, SoG