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Post Post #450 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:40 pm

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Eh. I think ill get one too.

Hm...still wondering.
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Post Post #451 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:06 pm

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Sajin wrote:Spyrex- Can you summarize your case on Jordan?

I am still convinced on Stark though. Now he wants to downplay his slip, but he was willing to lynch for a similar but opposing mistake. Go figure.
Have you played mafia before?

Since when does a day 1 vote = willing to lynch?

Willing to lynch is riding a stupid, foundationless wagon.
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Post Post #452 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:09 pm

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Sajin wrote:Llama- I am against a miller claim being lynched for the claim alone.

I would agree with a vig who wanted to shoot a miller claim.
What is the difference?
How the heck are you seeing stark as town leaning? At best, without considering the slip, nor considering the incredibly bad explanations he has posted for it he could be seen as neutral. Exactly what has he contributed that has been town leaning in your view?
The move against DN was continuing something that was established, but it added something that seems natural to continue a wagon against a read. It makes sense if you stop to think that council=town. You people are calling him scum for the equivilant of him saying "It says town, no it says villager".

Also the fact that instead of trying to push the DN wagon which was well established he moved to a wagon of a player relatively low on most peoples wagons shows more of a want to scumhunt instead of appeasing the group as a whole.

When you fact in quite a few of his voters were "I agree" in reasoning, im going to call this one a wagon more likely on town then one on scum.

Digging what Plum is saying on tubby too. Im looking forward to seeing his meta of playing against millers.
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Post Post #453 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:16 pm

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Question: if stark hadnt made that post, would DeathNote be dead by now?

Using this argument, who should we lynch today?
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Post Post #454 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:17 pm

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~Jordan` wrote:Question: if stark hadnt made that post, would DeathNote be dead by now?

Using this argument, who should we lynch today?
1. No.

2. No.
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Post Post #455 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:18 pm

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Plum wrote:
~Jordan` wrote:Question: if stark hadnt made that post, would DeathNote be dead by now?

Using this argument, who should we lynch today?
1. No.

2. No.
kk. Explain?
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Post Post #456 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:18 pm

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Sajin wrote:Spyrex- Can you summarize your case on Jordan?

I am still convinced on Stark though. Now he wants to downplay his slip, but he was willing to lynch for a similar but opposing mistake. Go figure.
Have you played mafia before?

Since when does a day 1 vote = willing to lynch?

Willing to lynch is riding a stupid, foundationless wagon.
So you were not willing to lynch the bandwagon that you quickly jumped on? Seriously? Then explain the reasoning of why you voted. (And no one else better answer this for him)


@Llama- You just posted the difference a few posts back!!!! A lynch you get reads on who is willing to lynch and who is not.

And llama- This is an argument about why other people are scummy in your view. It is NOT why stark is town. I still await your explanation. And while my vote started on just that tell on him, the case has grown. Did you see how stark tried to explain it off?
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Post Post #457 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:23 pm

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~Jordan` wrote:
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~Jordan` wrote:Question: if stark hadnt made that post, would DeathNote be dead by now?

Using this argument, who should we lynch today?
1. No.

2. No.
kk. Explain?
1. No, because many of those who originally voted DN for his 'slip', myself included, eventually came to the conclusion that it in itself was not a quantifiable slip in context.

2. I don't think that using the argument of whether or not DN would have been lynched by now had it not been for Stark's comment is a fruitful way to look at the game. There are other major points the DN/stark wagons don't directly give us info about. What exactly did you mean?
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Post Post #458 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:25 pm

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thats exactly what I meant. Thank you.

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DN has been more spammish than stark, which is why Ive chosen him over stark.
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Post Post #459 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:27 pm

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~Jordan` wrote:thats exactly what I meant. Thank you.

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DN has been more spammish than stark, which is why Ive chosen him over stark.
You're voting for spammishness over the other arguments and discussion presented? What do you think of SB, Tubby, everyone???
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Post Post #460 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:28 pm

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gimme a sec. I'll answer that w/ flourish. (I learned how to use the search engine /yippee!)

this kind of stuff should be in the newb tutorial.
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Post Post #461 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:32 pm

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tubby216 wrote:
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Battle Mage wrote:Snow Bunny is obvtown. You have 1 post in which to remove your vote from her, or you earn mine.
I can't believe you are actually making me link this game. You just wanted to dig up the wounds after they finally healed.
stop being dense get on board and lynch snow NOW!! or you will earn my vote!


btw pact thing is off cause i can't word the articles correctly, leaves too much room for the any potential scum entering the pact to manipulate the pact
this personifies tubby this game. Unneccessarily aggro, and this is how he attacks; scumhunts. Gets things done.

I wouldn't bet a dollar on if he were town. Moving on to next...
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Post Post #462 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:34 pm

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Sajin wrote:
stark wrote:
Sajin wrote:Spyrex- Can you summarize your case on Jordan?

I am still convinced on Stark though. Now he wants to downplay his slip, but he was willing to lynch for a similar but opposing mistake. Go figure.
Have you played mafia before?

Since when does a day 1 vote = willing to lynch?

Willing to lynch is riding a stupid, foundationless wagon.
So you were not willing to lynch the bandwagon that you quickly jumped on? Seriously? Then explain the reasoning of why you voted. (
And no one else better answer this for him
)

Yeah guys, you'd better not. Or else he might pursue a ridiculous wagon on you.
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I am truly amazed that you can ride my donkey to page 19, and completely ignore behavior equal/greater to my behavior
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Have you missed every person who's quietly jumped on the wagon that you created based on
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For your sake, I truly hope this is a part of a more elaborate plan for scum hunting. Please let me be right.
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When a game begins, there are a few good reasons to jump on a wagon.

You could make a list of these reasons.

Towards the bottom of this list would be "I am wagoning this person because I want to lynch them."

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I honestly don't know how much more I have to fight you on this before you realize that your passionate efforts are a detriment to the town's scumhunting process, but I'll keep it up as long as I have to.
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Post Post #463 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:39 pm

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Snow_Bunny wrote:Ok, after some thoughts, I decided to do it. Claim: I'm a miller. I was hesitant to do it, as I have no apparent reason to claim, but I do. I've learned that millers can help investigative roles by providing a "safe" test. And it's better if I claim early on.

(Something tells me that I'll probably end up lynched, but still, I must do what I think it's best for town.)
I wont lynch her for this. I didnt see the context however. Was there any pressure against her? If not, I call this post pro-town.
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If you're Council, then you should know you're town because you don't have a mafia-quicktopic.
Why are you so sure there's a quicktopic? I mean, if you are town, then you wouldn't know. But yet, you sound so confident.
that was a bad, scummy post. I'd probably guess scum has a quicktopic too.

This was her only scummy post. And it isnt strong enough for me to think of lynching her today, due to other, non-miller related posts.

She was wary of the DN lynch, a slip up being a slip up, she says. Noting that for eventual reference.
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Post Post #464 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:41 pm

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Sajin wrote:@Llama- You just posted the difference a few posts back!!!! A lynch you get reads on who is willing to lynch and who is not.
Policy vig is same as policy lynch to me, you just get to choose if its for claim/meta/etc. If you are OK with one I dont see how you cant be OK with the other.
And llama- This is an argument about why other people are scummy in your view. It is NOT why stark is town. I still await your explanation. And while my vote started on just that tell on him, the case has grown. Did you see how stark tried to explain it off?
Ahhh... what? If I can explain why I think stark is town, how is that insufficent for your question. I think he is town, and I said why I think that.
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Post Post #465 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:43 pm

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stark wrote:
DeathNote wrote:
stark wrote: It should say it in your PM, scum.

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This is where the bandwagon started. He is assuming that the Mod told me I was aligned with Town/Mafia/Third Party. What he didn't know wast that I was only told I am aligned with Council. I had to deduct that this meant Town which I did a poor job of. The reason this post is scummy is that he is making it seem like he had his role told to him. Unless the mod played favorites and told him he was town (doubt it) then he should have to do the same deductions as me, therefor his reasoning is bogus. He says it should be said in my PM, yet it didn't. I only concluded that the mod must have told him his alignment was scum when revealing his scum buddies in his role PM.
It was obviously an over-estimation of deductive ability. I had read the flavor before the game started, and became acquainted with the different forces in the game. I assumed that others had done the same. When I got my PM, and it said I was aligned with the Council, I interpreted it to be the town, which it was.

I was concerned when DeathNote expressed confusion on the matter. This concern dissapeared over a very brief period of time; incidentally, this particular process would be really nice to see in terms of my wagon.
I believe this reasoning. I don't think stark is a valid lynch target today.
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Post Post #466 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:43 pm

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I see no explanation for your vote in the above post stark. Still waiting.
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Post Post #467 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:44 pm

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Is it me, or is this game flying? The posts are big paragraphs which make me go blehhh to read.
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Post Post #468 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:45 pm

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Benmage wrote:Is it me, or is this game flying? The posts are big paragraphs which make me go blehhh to read.
i like big paragraphs. They make up for our inability to be concisive AND persuasive.
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Post Post #469 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:45 pm

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riiiiight 27 players.
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Post Post #470 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:47 pm

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Sajin wrote:I see no explanation for your vote in the above post stark. Still waiting.
At this point, I am more than content to let you wait. However, when you level up your reading ability, your answer will probably reveal itself.

PRO TIP: You can earn easy XP by reading things like labels and street signs! Once you've got that down, you can try harder monsters, like witty T-shirts.
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Post Post #471 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:47 pm

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Benmage wrote:Is it me, or is this game flying?
~Jordan' has apparently decided that spamminess is equal to scuminess, so he spamming up the thread.
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Post Post #472 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:47 pm

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@Llama- You reply was why you thought other people were scummy, not why you thought stark was town. What scum hunting has stark done in your opinion?

A policy lynch and a policy vig are not the same thing.
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Post Post #473 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:48 pm

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Kublai Khan wrote:
Benmage wrote:Is it me, or is this game flying?
~Jordan' has apparently decided that spamminess is equal to scuminess, so he spamming up the thread.
I was...analyzing...is this bad? /weeps in a corner
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Post Post #474 (ISO) » Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:55 pm

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Sajin wrote:@Llama- You reply was why you thought other people were scummy, not why you thought stark was town. What scum hunting has stark done in your opinion?

A policy lynch and a policy vig are not the same thing.
Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot I was supposed to do that in all the free time I had when not defending myself from the stupidwagon.

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