Mini 851 - Bloodlust Mafia! - Game Over

[Zachrulez]

In regards to your name, I think of granite when I sound out your name, sorry about that :s. I'll try to keep the proper spelling of your name in mind while I determine whether or not you are a scumbag.

Also, active lurking is scummy. There is a distinction between actively lurking, (Reading the thread without posting in such a way that appears strategic.) and lurking in general.

[Pomegranate]

In regards to your name, I think of granite when I sound out your name, sorry about that :s. I'll try to keep the proper spelling of your name in mind while I determine whether or not you are a scumbag.

Also, active lurking is scummy. There is a distinction between actively lurking, (Reading the thread without posting in such a way that appears strategic.) and lurking in general.

I usually do a bit of lurking D1 to get into the feel of the game, but I'll try to get some content in after school tomorrow.

RayFrost: I don't mind Pom or Pome (it even says so on mi wiki page), but I mind when Pomegranate is misspelled. I'd rather you say Pom/Pome than spell Pomegranate incorrectly.

[canadianbovine]

Peabody, I am voting Chibo currently; in response to your question in 176.

Looker is more annoying than scummy to me at the moment with the apathetic attitude.

Really, really do not like how cb poked his head in and has disappered again.

*twitch*

Oh wait

vote for alamaster. hes scum.

Ive written about this in depth.

Really? The only thing I can see that you have attributed to Almaster being scum is his scum list that you misconstrued. What other things have you written in depth?

Chibo, it really looks like you are pushing for a Rosso lynch more based on his playstyle than anything else.

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In no particular order, cb, Chibo, and Rosso top my scumlist.

excuse me read time stamps, this game is moving extremely quickly, last time i posted was 24 hours ago.

rosso has been avoiding questions that chibo had laid out for him.. rosso is a rather cocky player. he reminds me of ZoneAce

[Looker]

unvote

Rosso's Post 280 - I call your bluff. You have nothing scummy on me, and way to call "scum" everyime someone disagrees with you. On top of that, I don't see how my play sucks and, on top of THAT, I don't see how Chibo has extended any extra courtesies to me than any other player. I think you're reaching, bud.

Rosso's Post 286 -

"Lynching someone becasue they dont play the game how you think it should be played is just detrimental to the game."

You're exactly right.

Konowa's Post 300 - How am I apathetic?

@ Peabody & Rayfrost: How you feelin' about Rosso Carne? Scumminess or playing style?

[RayFrost]

unvote

Rosso's Post 280 - I call your bluff. You have nothing scummy on me, and way to call "scum" everyime someone disagrees with you. On top of that, I don't see how my play sucks and, on top of THAT, I don't see how Chibo has extended any extra courtesies to me than any other player. I think you're reaching, bud.

Rosso's Post 286 -

"Lynching someone becasue they dont play the game how you think it should be played is just detrimental to the game."

You're exactly right.

Konowa's Post 300 - How am I apathetic?

@ Peabody & Rayfrost: How you feelin' about Rosso Carne? Scumminess or playing style?

Playstyle for now.

Like Pomegranate said, it's probably better to let him live for now. If he's town, he'll be a huge asset. If he's not, we can deal with him a little bit later. Why gamble at high stakes when one can gamble with less to lose?

[Looker]

Okay, Mr. RayFrost, I have another question for you. Do you believe that either of you and Peabody are scum? If so, who? If not, ok.

[Looker]

since you don't think rosso's scum

[RayFrost]

Okay, Mr. RayFrost, I have another question for you. Do you believe that either of you and Peabody are scum? If so, who? If not, ok.

I know I'm not scum.

I have a neutral, leaning town read on peabody so far, so I don't think either of us are scum.

My view on myself won't change, but my view on peabody will depending upon his future actions.

Do you believe that either of you and rosso are scum/third party? If so, who and why? If not, okay.

[Looker]

Just like yours, my thoughts have yet to cement themselves. Knowing myself to be rather town, I guess I'll just have to wait for Rosso's vote before answering your question.

(That wasn't

that

blatant of a deflection, was it?)

[RayFrost]

Just like yours, my thoughts have yet to cement themselves. Knowing myself to be rather town, I guess I'll just have to wait for Rosso's vote before answering your question.

(That wasn't

that

blatant of a deflection, was it?)

wasn't a deflection at all.

It was stalling instead.

[Haylen]

I lost my post
So much for those people in my other games who kept telling me to write it up in Notepad...

[RayFrost]

type up a summary or something.

[Rosso Carne]

mmhm. would HAMMAH! looker

[ChiboSempai]

canadian, can you please elaborate on who ZoneAce is?

[Rosso Carne]

canadian, can you please elaborate on who ZoneAce is?

again.

we have a wiki

[J-Fox]

Lurking does not equal scum, lurking could just mean he is busy or away and not told anyone here or something. A lurker is simply an easy target for someone to say they're scum because they are not around to defend themselves.

Ok, so if I'm ever in a game with you and I'm scum, I can just lurk and you'll never lynch me. Thanks for the pro-tip.

Because if you lurk, you'll get prodded and eventually replaced if you keep on doing it.

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Chibo has already made this point, so trying to pass it off as your own to look involved is not a good thing to do.


Obviously you just decided you were going to line-by-line me and didn't actually look at the context my post was made in. I write my posts in textedit before I make them, and I made my post like a half hour after Chibo - it was just a simulpost. Moreover, even if there was a little lag time, how am I trying to "pass the point off" as my own? That makes no sense.

Point taken, sorry.

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The first one of these changes (to yourself) was during the end of the random period, so understandable. And the 2nd one (changing to looker), she gave valid reasons for, unlike what you claimed.


Matter of opinion. Personally, I don't think "the end of the RVS" and a one liner about tunneling constitutes a sufficient explanation.

Well to me, that's an explaination, I mean, she did say why she voted him, you don't have to write an essay every time you give reasons for voting someone, quite often giving short and sweet reasoning that explains well enough why is best, as it doesn't clog up the game.

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Because that's what we're supposed to do on the site, if you can't be arsed to do that, you may as well not be posting at all. Explain how they give a a "want to appear involved" feel please.


Go back and read them in isolation. You'll see it.

That however is not an explaination, I want YOU to explain why you find her scummy, not have me do that for you.

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That's not suspicion worthy, there are prods and replacements for that purpose. Voting should be reserved for scummy behaviour, not to coerce someone back to posting


Wrong. Learn to play.

Insults do not equal gd play either. Perhaps you should explain why I am wrong instead?

The reason why lurking is generally considered scummy is because through lurking one can avoid saying scummy things. Everyone is now saying that lurking=/=scum, which is sometimes true, but I usually see that a pressure vote or two doesn't hurt, and in some cases, lynch is the best option.

I suppose you'd be right about the pressure votes to perhaps force them out the woodwork if they are actually reading the game and choosing not to post (which is ofc scummy), but imo, punishing people who make scummy posts with votes is probably a better use of them, otherwise you may well be wasting your vote on someone who just ain't gonna see it and respond, it could well have been pressuring someone who is actually scummy and you know is acting scummy instead.

Also, active lurking is scummy. There is a distinction between actively lurking, (Reading the thread without posting in such a way that appears strategic.) and lurking in general.

^This explains perfectly well what I mean, and the main problem is, especially so on Day 1, it's very hard to tell the difference between active and passive lurking, unless they explicitly say they're actively lurking, and you'd be an absolute fool to do that.

I lost my post Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad
So much for those people in my other games who kept telling me to write it up in Notepad...

*hugs*


I'm not entirely certain Rosso would like being compared to ZONEACE...

[Rosso Carne]

aww i <3 zoneface

[Konowa]

Actually Almaster, you position is

not

crystal clear. Yes your vote is still on Rosso, however:

That being said, I don't have a problem keeping Rosso around another round or so.

The only problem is what happens in D2 or 3 if he hasn't done anything? Are we going to lynch him then? No. Everyone will probably forget about D1, Rosso will be like "it's not my fault I don't nail scum every time," and he'll run free. It's a dangerous situation.

the bolded clearly states differently.

What are your [Almaster] thoughts on Chibo, canadian, and Haylen? Also, explain why you are voting Rosso. I can not seem to find any at the moment.

Ray, I really do not spend too much time analyzing interactions during D1. Once we have a flip, I will go back and start to pick apart the game.

canadian, it might have only been 24 hours since the last post but you still have not done anything by IIOA. Why are you voting Rosso? Is he or his playstyle scummy? If it is the former, explain.

Looker, when I said apathetic I was referring to your general attitude on page six. It came off to me that you really do not care too much. Correct me if I am wrong. Also, could we get your top two or three scum reads?

[Peabody]

I have been playing completely idiotically and yet votes are just automatically deflecting themselves from me.

On top of that, I don't see how my play sucks

Contradiction.

@ Peabody & Rayfrost: How you feelin' about Rosso Carne? Scumminess or playing style?

I'm leaning more toward playing style than scumminess. One thing I definitely don't like is we have no way of telling if he is mafia or not because he is withholding information. His case on Alamaster sucks. (One reason I think his case sucks is I don't know what exact evidence he has against Alamaster).

^This explains perfectly well what I mean, and the main problem is, especially so on Day 1, it's very hard to tell the difference between active and passive lurking, unless they explicitly say they're actively lurking, and you'd be an absolute fool to do that.

I usually do a bit of lurking D1 to get into the feel of the game

J-Fox, do you suspect Pom?

Zachrulez, you posted a link of Haylen's previous game. I would agree with your suspicion. Very very scummy..

FoS Haylen

[Konowa]

Zachrulez, you posted a link of Haylen's previous game. I would agree with your suspicion. Very very scummy..

FoS Haylen

I just finished iso-skimming her in that game myself and am have to agree with you.

Haylen, can you give us opinions on everyone in the game thus far?

[Looker]

mmhm. would HAMMAH! looker

I'm guessing you'd HAMMAH! anyone right now to get out of the hotseat, am I right?

I have been playing completely idiotically and yet votes are just automatically deflecting themselves from me.

On top of that, I don't see how my play sucks

Contradiction.

Whoa, playboy, that's a big fat

vote peabody

for taking somebody else's post and slapping my name on it. That first one I mean. I think that was almaster's post.

. I have been playing completely idiotically and yet votes are just automatically deflecting themselves from me.

Do you want us to vote you?

Yeah, remember him? That was his shit.

[Pomegranate]

The reason why lurking is generally considered scummy is because through lurking one can avoid saying scummy things. Everyone is now saying that lurking=/=scum, which is sometimes true, but I usually see that a pressure vote or two doesn't hurt, and in some cases, lynch is the best option.

I suppose you'd be right about the pressure votes to perhaps force them out the woodwork if they are actually reading the game and choosing not to post (which is ofc scummy), but imo, punishing people who make scummy posts with votes is probably a better use of them, otherwise you may well be wasting your vote on someone who just ain't gonna see it and respond, it could well have been pressuring someone who is actually scummy and you know is acting scummy instead.

Also, active lurking is scummy. There is a distinction between actively lurking, (Reading the thread without posting in such a way that appears strategic.) and lurking in general.

^This explains perfectly well what I mean, and the main problem is, especially so on Day 1, it's very hard to tell the difference between active and passive lurking, unless they explicitly say they're actively lurking, and you'd be an absolute fool to do that.

I agree entirely with what you say about active lurking, and somewhat with what you say about passive lurking.

On a separate lurking note, sometimes (if everypne's playing really well) the lurkers

are

the most detrimental people apparent to the town.

[canadianbovine]

mmhm. would HAMMAH! looker

I'm guessing you'd HAMMAH! anyone right now to get out of the hotseat, am I right?

I have been playing completely idiotically and yet votes are just automatically deflecting themselves from me.

On top of that, I don't see how my play sucks

Contradiction.

Whoa, playboy, that's a big fat

vote peabody

for taking somebody else's post and slapping my name on it. That first one I mean. I think that was almaster's post.

. I have been playing completely idiotically and yet votes are just automatically deflecting themselves from me.

Do you want us to vote you?

Yeah, remember him? That was his shit.

this is big.

unvote: rosso

vote: peabody

to answer question i had thrown my vote on Rosso because i didnt like his Hammah! rule. it was like the many other pressure votes, and i was probably overdue to take it off anyway.

[RayFrost]

mmhm. would HAMMAH! looker

I'm guessing you'd HAMMAH! anyone right now to get out of the hotseat, am I right?

Looker, you know that Rosso will only HAMMAH! people, so saying you'll wait until he votes is saying "during D2/Twilight." I expect that post you promised within the next couple of days, rl time. Stalling isn't helpful for town.

[Zachrulez]

Unvote: Vote: Peabody

Do you often misrepresent people so blatently?