California Trilogy: City of Angels - Off Stage (Game Over)

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1075 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:50 am

this is very basic..I am sure this will cause a flurry of why and whats and please explain posts...

Bagel Eating Cowfrog (hasdgfas/dahill1/Shanba)---neutral leaning town
elmosaurian (Yosarian2/Elmo)--- scum
Gaspar (Glork)---leaning scum
GoofballsAndBaloons (DrippingGoofball/BridgesAndBaloons)----leaning town (which actually bothers me, because almost in every game with DGB, I think she is scum)
hewitt----leaning scum
MafiaJin (MafiaSSK/Sajin)----neutral...back and forth here.
Mighty Orbots (Papa Zito/Zorblag)----leaning scum
MrJellyLee (MrBuddyLee/petroleumjelly), replacing Seraphim S1----scum
Panzerjager-----ehhh, because of my PM before scene 1, left me not trusting him, but really have nothing to go on.
PookyTheMagicalBear, replacing Rawr Hydra S2...neutral, but makes me laugh.
ShadowLurker ......leaning town
sottyrulez (Sotty7/Zachrulez) ----neutral, but leaning town
StarKiss (Starbuck/Kise/dramonic) .....neutral, but leaning scum
Talilan (Talitha/ortolan) back and forth on them, currently leaning town though.
Thesp ...no clue, so neutral
Thok ...town
VP Baltar, replacing ThebladethatkilledMufasa S2, no clue, didnt like "death" before he left, Vp hasnt done much to change that opinion..but that could be residue from another game.

from that you can problably figure out who I want to send.

your turn gaspar. I am sure you dont mind, since you requested I do it...it can be as basic as mine.

GoofballsAndBaloons · Post Post #1076 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:52 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:can't we just like lynch all of da scum and win?

Poooooooooookkkkky!

I'll soon be off to makeup to prepare for the stage. Will you come with me? You know the script in the third act is always the sauciest.

-DGB

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1077 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:53 am

Shadowlurker, ScottyRulez, Starkiss are all scum.

let's kill them all.

This is in no way an attempt to get me on top of Tali.

Gaspar · Post Post #1078 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:54 am

Bagel Eating Cowfrog (hasdgfas/dahill1/Shanba) - Protown
curiouskarmadog - Scum
elmosaurian (Yosarian2/Elmo) - Scum
Gaspar (Glork) - PROBABLY PROTOWN
GoofballsAndBaloons (DrippingGoofball/BridgesAndBaloons) - Protown
hewitt - Neutral to slightly Scummy
MafiaJin (MafiaSSK/Sajin) - Neutral to slightly Scummy
Mighty Orbots (Papa Zito/Zorblag) - Protown
MrJellyLee (MrBuddyLee/petroleumjelly), replacing Seraphim S1 - Protown
Panzerjager - Neutral to slightly Scummy
PookyTheMagicalBear, replacing Rawr Hydra S2 - Neutral to slightly Protown
ShadowLurker - Neutral to slightly Protown
sottyrulez (Sotty7/Zachrulez) - Honestly, no gut impression. I guess neutral to slightly scummy
StarKiss (Starbuck/Kise/dramonic) - Neutral to slightly Scummy
Talilan (Talitha/ortolan) - Moderately scummy
Thesp - slightly to moderately scummy
Thok - slightly to moderately scummy
VP Baltar, replacing ThebladethatkilledMufasa S2 - Moderately protown

Gaspar · Post Post #1079 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:54 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Shadowlurker, ScottyRulez, Starkiss are all scum.

let's kill them all.

This is in no way an attempt to get me on top of Tali.

Not good enough.

F--

Please see me after class.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1080 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:54 am

sure

I will get makeup all over you.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #1081 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:55 am

CLASS?

YOU GIVING CLASSES GASPAR? FOR SRS?

GoofballsAndBaloons · Post Post #1082 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 7:58 am

PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:sure

I will get makeup all over you.

Yes there's six gallons of various shades of foundation in the supply closet, not to mention the two barrels of fake blood. Shall I fill the jacuzzi?

Mighty Orbots · Post Post #1083 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:11 am

The Wall-O-Text-A-Thon is making my head hurt. Anyway, update to this:

Bagel Eating Cowfrog

- I still like this hydra a lot.

curiouskarmadog

- Not sure what to make of this character. The only real iffy thing that I've seen is the whole "Screen Mafia Guild" business. If we hit day 4 or 5 and there haven't been any SMG flips then this guy needs to go. I haven't seen anything odd beyond that though so townish but I got my eye etc.

elmosaurian

- I didn't like Day 1, and I certainly didn't like Day 2. He did everything he could to push the idea that KY was possibly town and Door 2 was the correct choice. Lynch plz.

Gaspar

- I liked Gaspar's Day 2 play. I'm glad he wasn't just satisified with waiting around for KY to show up and autolynch him, but took the time to hunt in the interim. I also like his stance with elmosaurian.

GoofballsAndBaloons

- Ugh. So I figured KY's flip would help clear this slot somewhat due to the positioning but now we have this mafia/cult thing to sort through. Whichever is the case I sincerely doubt that KY and DGB are the same alignment, and nothing from Day 2 has hurt my town read.

hewitt

- I'm still not seeing anything from here but defense ("at least I'm not as bad as Panzer!") and a little mechanics. Dropping to scummy.

MafiaJin

- Needs to stay off-camera fo sho. Leaving at scummy for now, hopefully Day 3 will bring some clarity.

Mr. Grey

- Prob evil 3rd party that we should prolly lynch at some point.

MrJellyLee

- Day 1 was good. I really liked the Day 2 on-screen posts. Obvtown.

Panzerjager

- Lack of posting in Day 2 is really disappointing. I'm thinking scum waiting for the obvious lynch to blow over.

PookyTheMagicalBear(Rawr Hydra)

- Nothing Day 1, nothing Day 2 and has yet to post off-camera. Lurky scummy yes indeed.

Shadowlurker

- So I have some qualms about Day 2 for Shadowlurker. First was trying to use a coin flip to decide, and second was choosing Door 2. What really sets my alarm bells off was that illegal tags were used in both cases. I suspect this was done on purpose - gaming the system if you will - because she never attempted to fix the problem. On the plus side she voted KY really early Day 1. Need to see more and settle the cult/mafia business.

sottyrulez

- I liked the scumlist post a lot, but then nothing happened. :/

StarKiss

- Posting opinions with backing, no big issues here.

Talilan

- I have a town read here but a lot of people want Talilan's head(s). What am I missing? Someone post a case plz.

Thesp

- I'm still on the fence about Thesp. It almost seems like he's posting just enough to avoid a strike but when he does post it's usually pretty good. :/

Thok

- Voted the right door and was early on KY Krew. (I hate this cult business) I like that he's willing to hang out offstage.

VP Baltar (ThebladethatkilledMufasa)

- Mufblade was positively useless. VP started with a bang but trailed off as the day went on. Still unsure.

Scumlist #2 FTW.

Prob Town

Bagel Eating Cowfrog
MrJellyLee
Talilan

Townish

GoofballsAndBaloons
Thok
Gaspar
curiouskarmadog
StarKiss

Neutral

Thesp
sottyrulez
Shadowlurker
VP Baltar

Scummy

Panzerjager
hewitt
MafiaJin
PookyTheMagicalBear

Prob Scum

elmosaurian

Special Evil 3rd Party Slot

Mr. Grey

GoofballsAndBaloons · Post Post #1084 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:14 am

Bagel Eating Cowfrog (hasdgfas/dahill1/Shanba) - Sunshine, everyone wears sandals
curiouskarmadog - 60% chance of showers
elmosaurian (Yosarian2/Elmo) - Hurricane Elmosaurian upgraded to Category 5
Gaspar (Glork) - Snow flurries, 25 cm accumulation
GoofballsAndBaloons (DrippingGoofball/BridgesAndBaloons) - Heat wave, but breezy
hewitt - Tropical depression hewitt warning
MafiaJin (MafiaSSK/Sajin) - 30% possibility of melting snow
Mighty Orbots (Papa Zito/Zorblag) - Sunny
MrJellyLee (MrBuddyLee/petroleumjelly), Condition: Mainly Sunny, Pressure: 102.2 kPa, Tendency: Rising, Visibility: 48 km
Panzerjager - Cool
PookyTheMagicalBear, replacing Rawr Hydra S2 - 85% chance of rainbows
ShadowLurker - Room temperature
sottyrulez (Sotty7/Zachrulez) - 30% chance of shower
StarKiss (Starbuck/Kise/dramonic) - Tornado watch in effect
Talilan (Talitha/ortolan) - Variable cloudiness
Thesp - Overnight frost warning
Thok - Late afternoon thundershowers, hail warning
VP Baltar, replacing ThebladethatkilledMufasa S2 - Sunny, SSE 50 km/h with gusts up to 60

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1085 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:16 am

ooohh, I forgot about the dice tag thing with shadow lurker...that puts him in the neutral catagory me thinks.

I have a question for those who wanted to do the math statistics thing for chosing the door. If you really thought that was a good idea, why in the name of god, did you talk about it BEFORE the scene started?

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1086 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:18 am

so DGB, cold and wet is bad?

GoofballsAndBaloons · Post Post #1087 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:22 am

curiouskarmadog wrote:so DGB, cold and wet is bad?

Not as bad as a hurricane.

I kick myself. I should have included everyone's moon phase.

Mighty Orbots · Post Post #1088 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:22 am

Holy crap this thread is moving fast.

lol DGB.

curiouskarmadog · Post Post #1089 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:25 am

so if I am 60% chance of rain...I am actually clear, until it starts raining? Does me asking this question change my weather?

what if I send/dont send pooky?

Gaspar · Post Post #1090 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:27 am

Actually, put sottyrulez in my "Slightly Protown" category. I remember my discussion with him early during Scene Two now. While his point was erroneous, there was a fairly protown, "I'm looking for scum" feel to it.

Bagel Eating Cowfrog · Post Post #1091 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:46 am

(Disclaimer: This list may or may not reflect the opinions of Shanba and hascow.)

Since these seem to be all the rage..

Bagel Eating Cowfrog (hasdgfas/dahill1/Shanba)

- Protown duh

curiouskarmadog

- Was leaning town before this new info came out. Have to think this over now so unsure at the moment.

elmosaurian (Yosarian2/Elmo)

- Heavy leaning scum

Gaspar (Glork)

- Slight scum gut but no solid evidence

GoofballsAndBaloons (DrippingGoofball/BridgesAndBaloons)

- Protown

hewitt

- Neutral to slightly Scummy

MafiaJin (MafiaSSK/Sajin)

- Neutral to slightly Scummy

Mighty Orbots (Papa Zito/Zorblag)

- Protown

MrJellyLee (MrBuddyLee/petroleumjelly)

, replacing Seraphim S1 - Leaning Protown

Panzerjager

- Pretty Scummy

PookyTheMagicalBear, replacing Rawr Hydra S2

- Neutral. I got somewhat protown vibes from Kore but Pooky's done nothing.

ShadowLurker

- Protown

sottyrulez (Sotty7/Zachrulez)

- Leaning slightly more than average protown

StarKiss (Starbuck/Kise/dramonic)

- Neutral to slightly Scummy

Talilan (Talitha/ortolan)

- Slightly leaning town (although I really wish they would stop getting into page long arguments)

Thesp

- slightly to moderately scummy

Thok

- slightly to moderately scummy

VP Baltar

, replacing ThebladethatkilledMufasa S2 - Neutral to slightly protown, didn't like TBTKM although VP has done better

I would like to hear why CKD thinks Orbots is scum that surprised me. Also, as for being on camera I don't mind doing it but I'd rather stay Off Stage. And if we do go on stage I submit an earnest request for the length of the discussions between (but not limited to) Elmosaurian, Talilan, MrJellyLee, and Gaspar to be cut down please.

-dahill

GoofballsAndBaloons · Post Post #1092 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 8:51 am

CKD wrote:so if I am 60% chance of rain...I am actually clear, until it starts raining? Does me asking this question change my weather?

That's most definitely the current weather forecast according to our very sophisticated, if generally inaccurate, models.

curiouskarmadog wrote:what if I send/dont send pooky?

You want to make me cry? I'm going to be out of my mind with boredom on-camera, it looks so tiresome, oh wait - did you know that fake blood foams when you turn on the jacuzzi?

MrJellyLee · Post Post #1093 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:13 am

[PJ Posting]

I think Pooky ought to stay Off Screen. To put him back On Screen just excuses him from contributing. What good is a teddy bear if you can't squeeze it?

GoofballsAndBaloons · Post Post #1094 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:27 am

But ***I*** wanted to do some squeezin'!!!

To toot my own horn, nobody does it better than me.

Well you can have it your way if that's what you want. But I'm going to be very cross and sour. That's all.

-DGB

Gaspar · Post Post #1095 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:28 am

PJ's right, and I've already explained why Pooky needs to stay Off Stage. This Pre-Scene 3 is the only chance Pooky's had to read. If he gets put back On Camera, I will be very upset.

GoofballsAndBaloons · Post Post #1096 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:33 am

Gaspar wrote:PJ's right, and I've already explained why Pooky needs to stay Off Stage.

*sigh*

I guess I'm going to have to stop the jacuzzi... you bunch of kill joys.

ShadowLurker · Post Post #1097 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:08 am

My reasoning for the Dice Tag was poor; it was based on the fact that the rules say that only Bold and Italics are allowed yet Quotes were allowed On Stage. Door 2 is what the dice came up (you can choose whether to believe me or not)

However, the second time, I don't understand how you could claim I was using "illegal tags" Orbots. I simply bolded Door 2 please at the end of my post, which I think should function as a vote, especially as it's more "flavor"ful than simply casting a vote. I seem to remember Vote being omitted and it counted in the previous Scene, but by the time I came back the Scene was over so I did not check.

I also want to caution ckd against simply leaving everyone he thinks is scum Off Stage because lynches I think are the most important aspect of this game and On Stage has a degree of accountability. If all the scumbaggos are Off Stage, I do not want the Condorcet system manipulated so that the scum all escape lynch. In fact, even leaving maybe one solid scummy target + 2 lurkers and then have the rest be protown people you trust to scumhunt may be enough options to give the Off Stage people.

Also I'm putting this out there for now, but do not want it followed until later in the game. With these special mechanics, the most valuable play sometimes may not be only looking for the absolute scummiest person in our eyes, but sometimes those people we do not trust to make a good decision about who is scum might also have to go as Scum could pick both of them for the Endgame, and then we would be screwed. Ex. If twoplayers ONLY went after each other all game, and people generally thought both were town, then it might be better to get rid of one before the end so they can't both be picked for a 7 player endgame, leading to a situation where they'd vote each other right off the bat, possibly leading to a easy mislynch.

If I had to make a Master Condorcet rigth now, it'd be

Star Kiss, PookyTheMagicalBear, Thesp, elmosaurian, Thok, MafiaJin, hewitt, [Talilan, Gaspar], [Panzerjager, VP Baltar] [Bagel Eating Cowfrog, Mighty Orbots, curiouskarmadog], [MrJellyLee, sottyrulez, GoofballsAndBaloons]

Obviously towards the end there is some fudging since my reads are a bit weakened from having an essentially useless day from a scumhunting perspective yesterday.

And ugh at being on again Scene 3.

sottyrulez · Post Post #1098 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:15 am

Weekend has been kicking my ass and has even spilled over into today so I am behind again. Will catch up and post tomorrow.

Would very much perfer to stay off stage fopr the next scene.

-Sotty

Gaspar · Post Post #1099 (ISO) » Mon Sep 21, 2009 10:30 am

Oh man. Bonus points to SL for using the term "Scumbaggos."

It's a Glorkian classic.