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[VP Baltar]

Vote Count #6

Far_Cry-2 (Kise, dramonic)
Amished-1 (Sironigous)
dramonic-1 (le Chat)
Sironigous-1 (Amished)

Not Voting:

Far_Cry

With

6

alive, it takes

4

to lynch. Day 1 deadline is September 18.

[le Chat]

@Sir O: I think that your initial questions at the beginning of the game are a nice tool that town can use to gauge reactions,

but they can also be used to pick and choose which wagon you think would be easiest to push.

It also puts you right at the start of the lynch. After that, I don't feel that I can put you down as discussing anything else but the Spongebob/Amished vote.

um.

I don't understand how the questions I chose help any kind of bandwagon.
Seriously now - how many players you prefer in a game? Haha.

i enjoy any game as long as it isnt more than medium size, say 16+ players. i get lost if there are too many people and its not enjoyable. everything else is fun.

if you ask everyone questions that relate to game mechanics, they don't really prove anything that has to do with alignment, you can simply pick the answer that seems easy to pick apart or an answer that is generally considered dumb-tell/scum-tell and you can start a wagon on that player. i feel that this is exactly what happened with the spongebob wagon.

i also very much agree with amished that you have been treating him exactly as you treated spongebob and haven't accounted for the drastic change that happened when he replaced out. i think this is because you simply wanted to get spongebob lynched because he was your easy-pick from the mass questions. if not, i think your vote definitely would have changed after amished replaced in as he is definitely more competent and doesn't seem scummy imo.

dramonic/sirO are my choices for a scumpair. im content to

unvote vote Sironigous

[Sironigous]

i enjoy any game as long as it isnt more than medium size, say 16+ players. i get lost if there are too many people and its not enjoyable. everything else is fun.

This was the question for rocco. ^_^

if you ask everyone questions that relate to game mechanics,

(1) they don't really prove anything that has to do with alignment, (2) you can simply pick the answer that seems easy to pick apart or an answer that is generally considered dumb-tell/scum-tell and you can start a wagon on that player.

i feel that this is exactly what happened with the spongebob wagon.

1) This is the point.
2) or... we could start a whole discussion on how players react to that...

i also very much agree with amished that you have been treating him exactly as you treated spongebob and haven't accounted for the drastic change that happened when he replaced out. i think this is because you simply wanted to get spongebob lynched because he was your easy-pick from the mass questions. if not,

i think your vote definitely would have changed after amished replaced in as he is definitely more competent and doesn't seem scummy imo.

Changed... to whom may I ask? You stated dramonic as your scummiest person and Amished as your second highest townish person.

As you know, I find dramonic as one of my highest townish person... So I do see we have a visible divide in this game.

The thing is, I'm willing to change votes if he can convince me to. Hah.

Though.. go go go Amished lynch!

@Amished - Why do you see me partnered with Far_Cry?
@Le Chat - Why do you see me partnered with dramonic?

[dramonic]

My top two scum are Far_Cry and Le Chat, but not necessarely together.

[Amished]

Yes, I want to see FC's town/scum list.

First, I view both of you (sir/FC) to be extremely scummy by not really giving anything to the game. FC has been hugely non-committal (seriously, read all of his posts, now.)

"Somebody is definitely scum" no real vote on who he thinks.
"I never said you ARE sponge's partner..."
"I find Sponge suspicious, but I'm not automatically calling him scum."
--Agrees with both me and Dram talking between each other, giving me the impression that he knows both of us are town
"However, I've not yet decided my stance on Sponge/Amished."
(two days later, I'm #2 most townie)

Both are scummy, probably scum together as I have anywhere from slight to moderate town read on everybody else.

[Far_Cry]

My top two scum are Far_Cry and Le Chat, but not necessarely together.

Specific reasons?

[Amished]

FC: Scumlist. Now.

[Far_Cry]

Yes, I want to see FC's town/scum list.

First, I view both of you (sir/FC) to be extremely scummy by not really giving anything to the game. FC has been hugely non-committal (seriously, read all of his posts, now.)

"Somebody is definitely scum" no real vote on who he thinks.
"I never said you ARE sponge's partner..."
"I find Sponge suspicious, but I'm not automatically calling him scum."
--Agrees with both me and Dram talking between each other, giving me the impression that he knows both of us are town
"However, I've not yet decided my stance on Sponge/Amished."
(two days later, I'm #2 most townie)

Both are scummy, probably scum together as I have anywhere from slight to moderate town read on everybody else.

I already gave you a town list.

And I'm non-committal? I'd agree with that, but thats just my playing style. It doesn't mean that I'm scum.

[Amished]

O there. What do you have on Dram/Siro that you think that they're scum? I still don't see your "further thoughts" that you said you'd post at the latest 2 days ago.

[dramonic]

You've done nothing to really be helpful and Le Chat's play isn't town to me.

[Kise]

{anti-prod post}

I'll review the thread when I come back home.

[Far_Cry]

You've done nothing to really be helpful and Le Chat's play isn't town to me.

So your saying that Le Chat and I are scum, right?

O there. What do you have on Dram/Siro that you think that they're scum? I still don't see your "further thoughts" that you said you'd post at the latest 2 days ago.

The thing that really struck me as scummy was the fact that they jumped on the wagon on SpongeBob/you, and then just quietly jumped off. Kise had a good reason to attack and suspect Sponge, while the other two put him at L-1 on page 2 for no good apearant reason. It seriously doesn't make sense to me.

[Amished]

@ Far_Cry: Which of the two would you vote for then if that's the case.

[VP Baltar]

le Chat and Sironigous have been prodded. Please be aware that deadline is tomorrow. I will extend it to 9 p.m. EST (GMT-5), but it is unlikely that I will extend it any further than that.

[Sironigous]

{Prodded} At this rate, Far_Cry will be lynched.

I'm not completely for that - I'd prefer Amished lynched...
BUT.

Far_Cry is my second suspect, as seen in my list...

Blah. Votehopping != fun.

[Amished]

Mod: Votecount?

[dramonic]

Far_Cry-2 (Kise, dramonic)
Amished-1 (Sironigous)
Sironigous-1 (Amished, le Chat)

[le Chat]

if you ask everyone questions that relate to game mechanics,

(1) they don't really prove anything that has to do with alignment, (2) you can simply pick the answer that seems easy to pick apart or an answer that is generally considered dumb-tell/scum-tell and you can start a wagon on that player.

i feel that this is exactly what happened with the spongebob wagon.

1) This is the point.
2) or... we could start a whole discussion on how players react to that...

I guess you're right about (1), but the questions seem fickle. I understand that you can start discussion on what rubs you the wrong way but you latched onto what SpongeBob said and voted for it, and you didn't unvote when Amished came into the thread. That's questionable. You can hold Amished accountable for what SpongeBob does, as a replacement, but SpongeBob only answered one question 'wrong,' while Amished has been pretty squeaky clean. The fact that you still find Amished suspect for SpongeBob's answer and comments is what sits very poorly with me.

i also very much agree with amished that you have been treating him exactly as you treated spongebob and haven't accounted for the drastic change that happened when he replaced out. i think this is because you simply wanted to get spongebob lynched because he was your easy-pick from the mass questions. if not,

i think your vote definitely would have changed after amished replaced in as he is definitely more competent and doesn't seem scummy imo.

Changed... to whom may I ask? You stated dramonic as your scummiest person and Amished as your second highest townish person.

As you know, I find dramonic as one of my highest townish person... So I do see we have a visible divide in this game.

The thing is, I'm willing to change votes if he can convince me to. Hah.

Though.. go go go Amished lynch!

@Amished - Why do you see me partnered with Far_Cry?
@Le Chat - Why do you see me partnered with dramonic?

I don't agree with an Amished lynch, and I don't agree with a Far_Cry lynch either. Kise hasn't spoken in a while, and I think hold Kise/Far_Cry at the same level right now. I don't follow your logic and I think you hold your vote on Amished for poor reasons, and Dramonic has repeatedly said he thinks I'm scummy, but the most significant reason I can find is that he said I'm over analyzing. I see the two of you partnered right now simply because I find the two of you scummiest, and that he doesn't find you scummy, and you find him high town, though now you have said you are willing to vote him.

I would definitely like to hear Kise's opinion on you and your opinion of Amished before the deadline hits.

You've done nothing to really be helpful and Le Chat's play isn't town to me.

What do you mean, when you say my play isn't town?

{Prodded} At this rate, Far_Cry will be lynched.

I'm not completely for that - I'd prefer Amished lynched...
BUT.

Far_Cry is my second suspect, as seen in my list...

Blah. Votehopping != fun.

I simply don't follow why you want Amished lynched. You keep pushing for it.

[VP Baltar]

Vote Count #7

Far_Cry-3 (Kise, dramonic, Amished)
Sironigous-1 (le Chat)
Amished-1 (Sironigous)

Not Voting:

Far_Cry

With

6

alive, it takes

4

to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is roughly 13 hours from this post.

[Amished]

I will not be around 13 hours from now, but as I think FC is scum (as well as Sironi) I will vote for him to get us to L-1.

Unvote
Vote: Far_Cry

Vote count modified accordingly. ~Mod.

[dramonic]

I find your play non-commital Chat

[le Chat]

I will not be around 13 hours from now, but as I think FC is scum (as well as Sironi) I will vote for him to get us to L-1.

Unvote
Vote: Far_Cry

Hmm. I would rather lynch SirOni. I don't quite follow the argument against Far_Cry and I think SirO has grabbed onto you and hasn't let go, for a reason.

I find your play non-commital Chat

I've been getting this from my games and obviously it is something that I need to work on. It seems to stem mainly from my hesitancy to drop a vote. But I argue that I'm non-committal all across the board and its non a scum tell. I didn't commit to the SpongeBob/Amished lynch, and I won't commit to a Far_Cry lynch, because I do not think that they are scum.

Hoping to hear from Kise before deadline hits, because I'm still fairly convinced of a SirOni/dram pair. His vote has been on FC for a while but I challenge him to ask himself why. At least on Day 2 I hope that nobody puts down a quick vote because of quicklynching and winning.

[Kise]

I think a lynch went through if I understand the rules correctly. Anyway, just wanted to post to tell you guys sorry for lack of activity. I had too many essays to do this past week.

[Far_Cry]

Wow. I'm getting lynched for no apperant reason. I hope town know that if I flip townie that next will be LyLo? What a strange game.

I think a lynch went through if I understand the rules correctly. Anyway, just wanted to post to tell you guys sorry for lack of activity. I had too many essays to do this past week.

Hehehe me too. School is a burden, huh?

[Far_Cry]

@ Far_Cry: Which of the two would you vote for then if that's the case.

I would have taken Siro but its too late for that.