Open 144 - Near-Vanilla - GAME OVER!

[Kdub]

DRK:
Pablito is on my list of plausible scum, but I don't find him more suspicious than Aldus or Chinaman at the moment. When you finish reading the rest of the game, maybe you will see why. I'll also give pablito a chance to respond to your case before I make a more solid decision on him.

Alduskkel:
You never really "went after" Khamisa very seriously at all. You followed my opening vote on her during D2, but very quickly switched to AndyTony. You went back to Khamisa later when she had 4 votes (you put her at 5) and nobody else had more than 2. That seems to me like bussing when it looks like your partner is very likely to be lynched.

Mod: Would you be willing to replace hohum if all players requested it?

I don't believe there is anybody in the game who wants him to keep playing if he's going to not contribute to this extent.

I don't like to find a replacement unless it's completely necessary, especially since I'm sure there aren't many people willing to replace into a 60-page game.

I'm not going to replace hohum if other players request so. The only way I'll replace him is if he requests it himself, or he breaks an activity or conduct rule.

That said, if somebody continually refuses to participate, they will be replaced.

Due to input from the List Mod, the crossed out part is no longer true.

[Crazy]

Vote Count:

Alduskkel (3)

- Chinaman, AndyTony, hohum

AndyTony (0)

Chinaman (1)

- Alduskkel

d3x (0)

DeathRowKitty (0)

hohum (1)

- Kise

Kdub (0)

Kise (0)

MadCrawdad (0)

pablito (2)

- DeathRowKitty, d3x

Not voting (3)

- Kdub, MadCrawdad, pablito

With 10 alive, 6 votes will achieve a lynch.

Deadline for Day 3 is

September 27th.

Prodding hohum.

[hohum]

I'll post later

[d3x]

Yes, but

what

will you post later?

[Chinaman]

d3x: First off, this isn't the first time I have expressed my feelings of Pablito being scum. DRK is just reconfirming earlier suspicions of mine and finding new stuff I had overlooked. So, yes, I'm ok so far with his case against Pablito. Like I said, and have been saying for awhile now, I'm ok with Hohum, Ald, or Pablito lynches. And again, since everyone in this game breaks down EVERYTHING (not a bad game), I would prefer if hohum were replaced or at the very least, lynched after Ald and Pablito at this time.

I agree with your read on Kdub at this time (he's on my town list as well) and it doesn't surprise me that Kham was pretty anti-Zero for obvious reasons. I also find it weird that Ald, who attacked me pretty hard with a pretty weak case (my interactions with Kham?) at the beginning of today had very odd interactions with her himself. I did see some new points from you that I had missed but not on anyone who isn't on my scum list already except for Lobster. Lobster was only on the town list of mine because of his vote (semi-early) on Kham. So it's an interesting observation on him, but I'm not sure what it means yet.

I also think Ald's "rebuttal", if you want to even call it that was very weak and not very well thought out.

I like where my vote is at this time but again, don't mind if more of you get onto Pablito.
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On a side note...

I'll post in a bit.

Didn't post again till Sept 3rd.

I'll post later

So I'm guessing another post somwhere around the 17th of this month.

[Kdub]

That said, if somebody continually refuses to participate, they will be replaced.

Has hohum not reached that point yet? How close is he?

He's cutting it close... I've given him a warning.

[DeathRowKitty]

Pages 41-50

"Can we cut back down on the walls of text? Thanks." I second that.

Not much more to say from these pages, since a lot of the focus was on Khamisa. Pablito finally made one or two good posts (I think one), but he still looks very scummy. I've gotten some bad vibes from d3x ever since he replaced in.

Also, I had a town read on our two useless players (hohum and Zer0). Therefore I have a town read on chinaman at the moment (since someone mentioned suspecting him).

[Kise]

Limited Access for the next 2 days.

[Alduskkel]

I've been pretty sick lately so I'm not really up to posting content -- sorry. I should be better in a few days.

[d3x]

I've gotten some bad vibes from d3x ever since he replaced in.

Anything specific that I can respond to, or is it just blind gut?

[hohum]

Yes, but

what

will you post later?

I'll post another "I'll post later" post.

I really think you guys are doing a decent job. I'm hesitant to interfere with that too much at this point.

I like the adul case.

[Crazy]

I decided to consult a third party here, so I talked to farside22, the List Mod. We both agreed that hohum wasn't under grounds to be replaced at this time; however, farside said that as long as someone was abiding by the posting rules, and they didn't have to be constantly prodded, they shouldn't be replaced.

So I'll take it by her call, guys.

Also prodding pablito.

[Kise]

If hohum is allowed to continue this way, so will I. Either he gets pro-active, gets lynched, or I'm imitating him.

[d3x]

UnVote/Vote:hohum

This is ridiculous.

[hohum]

Kise: I'm not posting because I can't trust my reads on anyone, and I like the direction we're headed. You're electing not to post out of some misguided attempt to teach us a lesson. I'm trying to stay out of the way and you're trying to actively sabotage the game.

FoS: kise

[Crazy]

Vote Count:

Alduskkel (3)

- Chinaman, AndyTony, hohum

AndyTony (0)

Chinaman (1)

- Alduskkel

d3x (0)

DeathRowKitty (0)

hohum (2)

- Kise, d3x

Kdub (0)

Kise (0)

MadCrawdad (0)

pablito (1)

- DeathRowKitty

Not voting (3)

- Kdub, MadCrawdad, pablito

With 10 alive, 6 votes will achieve a lynch.

Deadline for Day 3 is

September 27th.

[hohum]

@Mod

I'm still voting adul, not self-voting.

Oops, I meant to put down d3x's name but I put down yours. Fixed.

[DeathRowKitty]

Fully caught up. I give a 99% chance of pablito-scum and a 50+% chance of d3x-scum.

Anything specific that I can respond to, or is it just blind gut?

I wouldn't call it blind, but yes, it's largely gut. Right now I find it better to lynch pablito and I'll point out some posts of yours I don't like either later in Day 3 or at the start of Day 4. I think you're better dealt with after pablito.

@hohum
What do you think of pablito and d3x?

@town
More opinions on pablito please (preferably accompanied by votes).

[Kise]

Yes, but

what

will you post later?

I'll post another "I'll post later" post.

You're taunting us, not trying to stay out of the way.

@DRK - I need to compare the questions I asked pablito with the answers he provided to make sure it's all there. I'll get back to you after I verify, likely sometime tomorrow.

[hohum]

if by "us" you mean "the scum team" then yes, I suppose I am.

[Kise]

Name the person on kham's wagon that you said was voting her because of lurking, please.

[hohum]

why bother? I was wrong on my read on khas, and I was wrong on my read on her wagoneers.

[d3x]

Right now I find it better to lynch pablito ... *snip* ... I think you're better dealt with after pablito.

Is the 'case' on me in any way dependant on pablito? Does your feeling change on me if pablito flips Town vs Scum? What kind of eta can I expect for the posts you don't like?

Aside from that...
1. What are your thoughts on Kise's ultimatum?
2. Unless I've missed something, you have not made a single mention of Ald. Why?
2a. What do you think of the AT/Chinaman/hohum push on him?
2b. What do you think of my interaction breakdown between him and Khamisa?
2c. What are your thoughts on his 'defense' of said breakdown and the continued {until he went V/LA at least} discussion thereof?

I'm not meaning to push a lot on you, but there's quite a bit going on right now with a few cases being built and your saying that your #2 suspect is largely based on gut. I find that odd.

[hohum]

That wasn't a rhetorical question BTW. I would really like to know why kise wants me to post information for him to dissect which admittedly leads to WIFOM.

[DeathRowKitty]

@d3x
1. He's a hypocrite if he follows through on it. Plus, we

really

don't need two uncooperative players in the game.
2. He's not a very intersting player. I personally think he's town, but don't feel too strongly about that.
2a. I think the case on him has been overblown, but I've skimmed a lot of AT's posts (way too many walls of text...).
2b. Are you referring to this? I don't think it made anyone look any scummier.
2c. If he really didn't attack Khamisa, there's no defense he could have posted anyway. Personally, I don't think there was much for him to defend.

I'm not meaning to push a lot on you, but there's quite a bit going on right now with a few cases being built and your saying that your #2 suspect is largely based on gut. I find that odd.

It's based largely on gut because I didn't record any posts from you I found scummy. Therefore, I'm basing it largely on the impressions I remember getting from your posts.

Plus, I'm not a huge fan of the cases going on. I've already said I have town reads on Ald, hohum, and chinaman.