Mini 828 - ProzacMod 3 - Lost Mafia - Over

[Santos]

Santos: “if reckoner is scum, im pushing your lynch” to CB. OTOH, tried very hard to distract from CB’s lynch.

Where did I say that?

[curiouskarmadog]

this game is extremely fustrating, because maybe 2-3 people are reading it..

Santos, please read the fucking game before you post again...I have commented on CB's claim already multiple times...matter of fact, that is the basis of my point of why I think CB is vanilla.

Emp, I will post why I think VP is scum (again) when I have the time.

CB, you are not helpful in the least....it is no wonder people think you are scum. if I didnt believe your vanilla claim, I would be voting you.

all, I didnt get a response to my answer to the Mod's question...

ZA and CDB are not really adding anything today and will probably lurk out the game. if we lose this game, I blames those who are lurking and those you are not reading at all.

[ZONEACE]

ZA and CDB are not really adding anything today and will probably lurk out the game. if we lose this game, I blames those who are lurking and those you are not reading at all.

excuse me? DID YOU READ THE DAMN GAME TODAY?????


I'm going to lurk out????


go to hell man, i'm one of the people that's been keeping this game alive.


what a fucking stupid thing to say.

[VP Baltar]

Given your analysis, Emp, am I to assume you want a CB lynch or is there someone else who you think will give more information?

[EmpTyger]

Vote: canadianbovine

. Lynch-1.

I think I don't agree with anything CKD said in [1201]. It reads to me like a desperate attempt to buy out breathing room for CB and Reckoner, who at a couple points today he's tried to assert cannot be today's lynched. And I really don't like how so much of CKD's logic is based on how he knows exactly what mafia role PMs must look like. That's all he's said about why VP is guilty, and all he's said about why CB is innocent. (I don't believe he actually has another reason against VP. Both because he can't provide one, and because he after a reread "felt okay" about VP on 8/30, but one week later was so confident that VP was mafia- and according to him then, it was based solely on name claims [1073].)

The only incongruous thing is why Santos is back on the island. Because either he lied (presumably to save Reckoner?), or that it did happened, for a reason. And I'm not thinking of any reason that doesn't include him lying. The only thing I could think of would be if he was brought back as a result of someone else's question, but I'd expect that to be Juls and she didn't receive a question until D2.

So, CB/Reckoner/CKD. With Santos if one of CB or Reckoner are not mafia. "santos, vote me if you want too...but you better back up that vote." in [1020] feels very much that CKD instructing Santos to bus him.

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Santos
My mistake: CB said that to you. Point stands- I think it makes a CB/Reckoner/Santos less likely.

[VP Baltar]

I pretty much agree with everything Emp just said, but would have to look into the timeline of question and answers before I made any assumptions about Santos being back on the island.

Anyone opposed to the hammer falling apart from CB and CKD?

[ZONEACE]

absolutely not.

[VP Baltar]

I say you give people until later today to say final words and then do the honors Zone.

[ZONEACE]

I'll do it when I get home from the bar/party I'm going to tonight. So, you people have probably 12-14 hours to object/state your thoughts before I swing the hammer.

[VP Baltar]

Drunken hammer! Now that is wholesome fun I am looking forward to.

[ZONEACE]

oh yeah, especially since there will an hour long open bar and 1 dollar drinks for part of the night

[ZONEACE]

oh yeah, especially since there will an hour long open bar and 1 dollar drinks for part of the night

[xRECKONERx]

My final thoughts:

I'm happy with a CB lynch, though I still suspect CKD hardcore. I'm anxious to see if anymore role changes occur overnight. Somehow, I feel like I've missed something huge in this game so far, but that can be dealt with on D3.

Emp: what did you mean earlier on when you said you had missed something huge? You know, when you jumped off my wagon?

[VP Baltar]

oh yeah, especially since there will an hour long open bar and 1 dollar drinks for part of the night

heh, I expect an entertaining rant with this hammer. Don't disappoint.

[curiouskarmadog]

something I would like to hear today versus tomorrow VP...if/when CB flips vanilla town, who you going after tomorrow?

you have already heavily implied that I must be scum because I am trying to "distract" from the CB lynch....so i assume, that you are going to attack me tomorrow if he flips scum..

but if town?

[VP Baltar]

I would imagine a number of factors would influence who I go after tomorrow. If he flipped town and we lose a second town member tonight, I imagine mass claim is going to happen. That will be something to seriously consider. Whoever dies tonight will also be a factor, as I don't know who will be around tomorrow. Unlike you, I have no plans to make poorly arrived at conclusions based on information that is highly questionable.

[curiouskarmadog]

well, that was a safe answer while once again not making a stances and putting in a jab.

well you know my claim already....mostly likely we will be in lylo tomorrow (if/when) CB flips town...I imagine that scum will fake claim tomorrow...interesting, if you win this game VP, it is because the majority of town dont really care...Reck and Santos are just skimming and useless..CDB is..? CB appears to be a dolt...I wouldnt go patting yourself on the back for this win.

scumbag..take my bet (it is only good for today)...lynch me, or at least put me out of my misery tonight.

and yes, ZA has been participating...I dont think he has been adding anything, but I misspoke when I said he was lurking.

[VP Baltar]

I'm sure the scum are frothing at the mouth to kill you since you've done nothing helpful today while blaming everybody else for what you consider a sorry state of affairs. Maybe someone will vig you and we'll all be better for it.

Apart from yourself (since you've beaten that horse enough today), who do you think I have not taken a stance on in this game thus far?

Since you think questions about tomorrow can be logically answered without NK information, what do you plan to do if CB flips scum? What if I am NKed and flip town?

[curiouskarmadog]

if CB flips scum...I will be lynched for sure...the only way that CB will flip scum is if he received a fake claim, or the mafia PM looks exactly like vanilla town. If I was in someone else's shoes, and CB flips scum, I would lynch me. I also think if CB was scum, there is some hard core (needless) bussing going on right now. at this point, scum (with CB in it) could easily lynch me instead of him. There is no reason to trade CBscum with one vanilla town (I will be lynched tomorrow for sure)

at any rate, I dont think that will happen. I think he will flip vanilla town...which will basically prove that I was right and that I am vanilla....you also know that I am going to be hounding you tomorrow and you know that I had a question today (getting a power?), so I dont think there is anyway you will let me live...it is all WIFOM...

but lets play the "what if" game (I know, I started)...if CB is town (vanilla) and you are offed tonight and you really are town..I will be shocked. If that occurs (doubtful) we will be at Lylo....(after claims and night choices) the lurkers need to be pressured, post, or be replaced. I would also put my money down that Emp is scum.


VP, I dont know where your stances are....can you please restate them?

[ZONEACE]

and yes, ZA has been participating...I dont think he has been adding anything, but I misspoke when I said he was lurking.

I've added a hell of a lot more than you.

[curiouskarmadog]

I bet you really think so.

curious ZA....who do you think is scum at this point?

[ZONEACE]

My suspicion lis is as follows
1. CB
2. Reck
3. CKd/cdb/santos/emp
4. Juls
5. VP
6. Me

[VP Baltar]

I also think if CB was scum, there is some hard core (needless) bussing going on right now. at this point, scum (with CB in it) could easily lynch me instead of him. There is no reason to trade CBscum with one vanilla town (I will be lynched tomorrow for sure)

There is one damn vote on you and most people are just ignoring you at this point, so I don't see how you think you are a more viable lynch than CB.

which will basically prove that I was right and that I am vanilla

yeah....no.

VP, I dont know where your stances are....can you please restate them?

Sure, see how easy it is when you behave like a rational human being.

CB- Scum
CDB-lurker scum
ckd-possible scum in too deep defending his partner
Emp-will have lots of explaining to do if he lives until tomorrow
Santos-definitely scummy, but I've been wrong about him before and he's almost too outlandish to believe
Juls-seems town to me, but all reads go out the window in lylo
Zone-same as Juls

[xRECKONERx]

And me, VP?

[VP Baltar]

I knew I forgot someone...that's what I get for posting at work. Sorry. I'd put you just above Santos for the same reasons. You've been really scummy at certain points this game, and certain things about your play don't make sense to me (your investigation of me, you not receiving a reply to your question, etc.). However, your play is almost too consistently scummy to be scum (which isn't a great argument to make). The reason you are higher than Santos on my list is because I have no experience with you. I need to do some meta of you during the night phase.