Open 168- Vengeful Mafia -={Game over}=- before 844

[ZazieR]

/confirm

[ZazieR]

Vote Charter

Charter + Vengeful = Bad memory

[ZazieR]

Vote Charter

Charter + Vengeful = Bad memory

I don't remember, when was it?
Also

vote Zazier

obvscum

Stupid newb

[ZazieR]

Vote: No Lynch

Obviously the best move.

What's special about a vengeful set-up?

[ZazieR]

What's special about a vengeful set-up?

Hope you don't mind if I answer...
1. No NK's
2. If a townie is lynched

on day 1

, they get a vengeful kill. If we NoLynch, we will be in lylo on day 2 because the vengeful kill won't be available.
Maybe NoLynch becomes useful starting on day 2.

Yes, I do mind. Seeing as you did wonder, why did you answer?
Also, why are you thinking about voting Charter?

[ZazieR]

2. If a townie is lynched

on day 1

, they get a vengeful kill. If we NoLynch, we will be in lylo on day 2 because the vengeful kill won't be available.

Had not considered this.

Maybe NoLynch becomes useful starting on day 2.

No, it's totally pointless. I just thought it would be funny to vote No Lynch in a nightless game. (and lol reactions, I guess.)

Unvote

Hero, why aren't you voting for charter?

Why hadn't you considered it?
Your vote did seem serious. Links of past RVS votes?
Why are you asking about Charter and not somebody else?

Also, do you want to add something else to my question Hero answered?

[ZazieR]

Yes, I do mind. Seeing as you did wonder, why did you answer?
Also, why are you thinking about voting Charter?

I didn't want a nolynch to happen before someone said "wait, stop, that's a bad idea because we might lose the vengeful kill." (It depends on how the mod interprets the rules, which I suspect were written for games without deadlines.) It was definitely possible that a well-meaning townie or two would vote for a nolynch without considering that. Add on a scum or two who sees the advantage, and we have a nolynch without much information to derive from it. Giving up whatever reaction-seeking you were doing was a sacrifice I considered acceptable.

I didn't vote no-lynch and even asked Iam about it. You knew about it. So in your case, you'd have known that there would only be 3 players left to vote for a No-lynch. If you had also paid attention, you'd have seen that Charter also knows the rules of Vengeful. So the chance that there would have been a no-lynch is very small. Not liking your reason for telling.
Also, if you were afraid of a no-lynch, while knowing that it depends on the mod if he allows it and what rules are for it, why didn't you ask the mod what he'd do if there would be a no-lynch?

Charter asking about the deadline within the thread twice within the space of three posts looks like it could be an attempt to seem pro-town... which would inherently deserve a page 1 semi-random vote depending on the circumstances

Semi-random is better than a random vote. Do you agree or disagree? Why? And if you agree, why no vote change?

[ZazieR]

I just hadn't. There wasn't any deeply thought out plan to my No Lynch vote, it was just "hey, it's a nightless setup, so wouldn't it be funny to vote for No Lynch?"

Oh, sure. There's many special things about the Vengeful setup. A notable one for me is the fact that we start in lylo (with an extra shot, but still, it is possible to lose the game on D1); this means I am going against my long standing policy of maintaining a vote on someone at all times on D1.

Noted. Needs to be looked into.

Why aren't you voting for Hero?

Because I wanted to see his response first.
Why are you asking about him?

[ZazieR]

Your vote did seem serious. Links of past RVS votes?

Supposing that IAUN was serious, what do you think was the purpose of the vote?

Dunno.

[ZazieR]

Zaz, who are you most suspicious of?

Right now, Hero.

[ZazieR]

Keyblade

Anything to add?

[ZazieR]

unvote, vote IAUN

because I don't like how he's buddied up to Hero. Why is Hero town?

Gut, and pointing out the danger of my No Lynch vote was good pro-town thinking. Do you disagree with my read?

I'm calling it as Keyblade/Zazie. What do you think, Hero?

This is fake-scumhunting.
Saying Hero/Iam now.

Vote Hero

Will have to look at what I've noted down to see if I keep this vote.

[ZazieR]

Why aren't you voting for Hero?

Because I wanted to see his response first.
Why are you asking about him?

Which response, or to what?

Towards my first few posts.

Zaz, who are you most suspicious of?

Right now, Hero.

Uh, why? It looks like your suspicions are based on:
1) IAUN calling me town
2) My suggestion that a nolynch might be bad

On point (1,) I can understand Charter's reason to consider it a scumtell on IAUN, as he might be buddying up to a townie. But the fact that he said it doesn't indicate anything about my alignment.
On point (2,) it may have been unlikely that more people would vote for a nolynch, but not impossible. Charter may "know the rules," but he might assume the rules allow a vengeful kill whenever the first lynch is on a townie. I think I answered this point well enough in post 24. As for not asking the mod, the rules were already there. It didn't occur to me that he do things differently. And given post 29, I don't want to ask. (I also don't think it will be an issue.)

Point 1 is not a reason. Over-all feeling and your 'warning' are.
And checking again what happened when Iam voted no-lynch, it seems that Charter also posted after him and before your 'warning'. Making it three players who choose not to vote for a no-lynch. So your 'reason' is invalid.
Also, post 24:

I didn't want a nolynch to happen before someone said "wait, stop, that's a bad idea because we might lose the vengeful kill." (

It depends on how the mod interprets the rules

, which I suspect were written for games without deadlines.) It was definitely possible that a well-meaning townie or two would vote for a nolynch without considering that. Add on a scum or two who sees the advantage, and we have a nolynch without much information to derive from it. Giving up whatever reaction-seeking you were doing was a sacrifice I considered acceptable.

So you did know that the mod could do things differently.
Also, the following activates my gut a lot:

On point (1,) I can understand Charter's reason to consider it a scumtell on IAUN, as he might be buddying up to a townie. But the fact that he said it doesn't indicate anything about my alignment.

[ZazieR]

Happy B-day Keyblade ^.^
Please post.