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Post Post #25 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:45 pm

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So you're saying that if you random-vote me I'm going to react to it? That's ridiculous. If that worked then so would "Are you Mafia?" to every player.

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Post Post #26 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:47 pm

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It is now Day 1. Mafia may no longer talk by PM.

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is set for 8 pm PDT, Wednesday September 23.

Start voting!
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Post Post #27 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:51 pm

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Ok, fine YJ: Are You Mafia?
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Post Post #28 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:52 pm

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He's acting kind of edgy THEREFORE HE MUST BE SCUM
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Post Post #29 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:54 pm

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Official Vote Count (deadline 9/23)


Kirbyoshi (0):
Webz (0):
YamiJoey (0):
Humble Poirot (0):
Devotress (0):
Double A (0):
fallen angel (0):
yabbaguy (0):
orangepenguin (0):

Not Voting (9): (Kirbyoshi, Webz, YamiJoey, Humble Poirot, Devotress, Double A, fallen angel, yabbaguy, orangepenguin)

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. I'm only counting votes after I opened the day with post 26.
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Post Post #30 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:58 pm

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So we have 20 days to vote?

Is that overdoing it a bit?
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Post Post #31 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:28 pm

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Double A wrote:That's what's so fun about mafia though. You vote someone and then judge their reaction. Then you contact your buddies and try to get whatever the hell is going on in the game.
vote: Double A


You say something about the advantages of voting, but you don't have a vote that stands.

Note: This is semi-random. :roll:
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Post Post #32 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:31 pm

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Clarification: You didn't post that in day 1, but you have posted in day.
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Post Post #33 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:32 pm

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I don't have a vote that stands yet either. Does that make me scummy? Also, I re-rolled on random.org, and you came up.

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Post Post #34 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:35 pm

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Kirbyoshi wrote:I don't have a vote that stands yet either. Does that make me scummy? Also, I re-rolled on random.org, and you came up.

Vote: Webz
No, but you didn't say that outright... And now you aren't scummy! :P
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Post Post #35 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:13 pm

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Random dot org gave me a 4. Since that's what all the cool kids are doing:

Vote Humble Poirot[/u]
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Post Post #36 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:13 pm

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Editing the above post.

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Post Post #37 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:54 pm

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Guys, Random.org is not helping our town win this game! It is really not the best way to go. If you think someone is scummy, even slightly, at the start, then vote for them rather than go completely random. The RVS is really quite boring and uneeded.
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Post Post #38 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:17 pm

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People's random voting is just joke voting more then anything. From what I've watched before, joke voting's pretty common at the start of day one.
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Post Post #39 (ISO) » Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:26 pm

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Devotress wrote:People's random voting is just joke voting more then anything. From what I've watched before, joke voting's pretty common at the start of day one.
My point, exactly. It has no purpose. It is actually anti-town. We want as much time for day 1 to make a lynch of a real mafia, with sufficient evidence. Evidence is not what happens in the RVS, right?
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Post Post #40 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:18 am

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I said that in a game before and I got lynched
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Post Post #41 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 12:52 am

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Webz wrote:My point, exactly. It has no purpose. It is actually anti-town. We want as much time for day 1 to make a lynch of a real mafia, with sufficient evidence. Evidence is not what happens in the RVS, right?
I agree with moving out of Random voting, but I still defend it initially starting. It's just akward posting habits, and does infact start very minor discussions, like even the tiny one we just had, is some discussion atleast.
Double A wrote: I said that in a game before and I got lynched
5 people bandwaggoned on you THAT fast?
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Post Post #42 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:30 am

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Double A wrote:
vote: orangepenguin


random.org

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Why are you so interested in specifying that this was a complete random vote?
Kirbyoshi wrote:
YJ wrote:We start now?
I'm pretty sure when Thok says "as soon as he confirms," he means "as soon as he confirms."

Vote: Humble Poirot


My first time using random.org, ever.
The same as before.
Kirbyoshi wrote:Then just self-vote (because you're gonna change it anyway) or reroll. Random votes are a good way to get discussion going.
No. I don't think random votes ON THEIR OWN get discussion going but they give us something to do. Reactions to votes and waggons and all that will allow people to try and read others.
Double A wrote:That's what's so fun about mafia though. You vote someone and then judge their reaction. Then you contact your
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and try to get whatever the hell is going on in the game.
Sorry? Your buddies?
Double A wrote:He's acting kind of edgy THEREFORE HE MUST BE SCUM
How serious do you consider this statement to be? How useful?
Kirbyoshi wrote:I don't have a vote that stands yet either. Does that make me scummy? Also, I re-rolled on random.org, and you came up.

Vote: Webz
if you felt that you had enough to respond and vote webz... why the need to say that webz "casually" came up in random.org?

I agree with Webz in that people shouldn't justify their votes with random.org. That leaves no space for reaction because there's no, however small, reason for the vote. No need to reply.

@Devotress: Are you comfy with joking for 20 days? :?
Double A wrote:I said that in a game before and I got lynched
...
What do you mean? Is that a threat to webz or what? (
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From what I have now... I need to decide wether to vote kirby or AA (Ha! Do you like that nick? Pure creativity)

but I will go with AA due to accumulated possible clues.

Vote Double A
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Post Post #43 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 1:34 am

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Humble Poirot wrote: @Devotress: Are you comfy with joking for 20 days? :?]
nah, just one day.

Though, as for that, I didn't realize you'd been given another random vote when I made mine, untill reading your post just now.

Unvote: Humble Poirot



Got to be carefull with votes when it's only 5 to lynch.
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Post Post #44 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:35 am

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Devo... the game started in post # 29...

Yours vote was the only vote I had.

If I had 2 votes against me I would need 3 more votes to get lynched...

Do you seriously think that 3 players (even if 2 of them are scum) will vote me quickly and lynch me? Without reasons? Without making themselves awfully suspicious?

I think that L-1 (1 to lynch) might be a bit more dangerous but L-3 definetly isn't.
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Post Post #45 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:39 am

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Humble Poirot wrote:Devo... the game started in post # 29...

Yours vote was the only vote I had.

If I had 2 votes against me I would need 3 more votes to get lynched...

Do you seriously think that 3 players (even if 2 of them are scum) will vote me quickly and lynch me? Without reasons? Without making themselves awfully suspicious?

I think that L-1 (1 to lynch) might be a bit more dangerous but L-3 definetly isn't.
oh sorry, I saw you quoted someoneing having voted for you, didn't realize it was before the day start.

When it's a joke vote, i'd rather it not even go to L-3.
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Post Post #46 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:48 am

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AA wrote:I said that in a game before and I got lynched
So, were you scum in that game?
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Post Post #47 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 2:56 am

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I totally just posted. I want my proper computer back. ¬_¬

I have to agree that Webz does look a tad scummy for being almost
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pro-Town, but TBH Double A's point is just the same, only it's using a method I don't like. You're almost saying he's Mafia, just because it's possible.

FoS: Webz
FoS: Double A


Kirbyoshi: Yes. I mean - DAMNIT! xD

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Post Post #48 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:07 am

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YamiJoey wrote: I have to agree that Webz does look a tad scummy for being almost
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EXCUUUUUSE MEEE??? :shock:

So... being too pro-town means someone is scummy? I don't understand...

oh... I knew I had read this somewhere...

Too Townie

Yours is a logical fallacy.

I'd like your opinions about it after you read the article. Does it change something? What? Why?
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Post Post #49 (ISO) » Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:45 am

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I understand what the article is saying, (and thus; you) but there is the idea behind it. Trying to force themselves into being seen as Town rather than letting people simply assume it. Which is bad Mafia behaviour, if you ask me.

I understand that by keeping my position on this I'm looking scummy, but lets face it; this post can only reinforce anyone's suspicions unless I had other evidence as to why Webz would be Scum, which I don't as it is about the only thing that has happened so far.

I did also argue against my own point in that post, so it's clear that I did understand I had a flawed argument, but a pair of FoS' that had
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