Open 156 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over before 816

[Raivann]

vote:muzzz

Vote Count #20

Could you guys spread your votes out any more?

Raivann (2) - ConfidAnon, ZazieR
Sho Minamimoto (1) - Debonair Danny DiPietro
ekiM (1) - Sho Minamimoto
muzzz (1) - Raivann
ZazieR (1) - itacv2

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

@Confid: what's the case against Raivann?

@Itacv: what's the case against Zazie?

Why didn't you ask me for the reasons for my vote?

[Santos]

Vote: Sho

for posting much to incoherently for me to understand for it to be a L-1 vote on Exalt. Everything in his last post overshadowed any good reason for his vote to be cast on Exalt except for it looking very opportunistic to let a townie lay the hammer.

[Sho Minamimoto]

Mhm, and the self-hammer was so pro town. Although, I must say at least you're voting me with something that resebles a reason.

As for everyone on Raiv, ekiM, and muzzz, reasons anyone? A case? A theory? Give me something to work with.

[muzzz]

@Raivann: nice job ignoring what I said and asked.

@DDD: because I assumed your vote was intended as the rock through the window you mentioned. If there's more to it, then by all means, elaborate.

[ConfidAnon]

Posting to let people know that I haven't been active because of the new school year starting, will be more active when I get the time.

[Raivann]

@muzzz- I didn't see any questions directed at me

[Alduskkel]

ekiM has been prodded.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

@DDD: because I assumed your vote was intended as the rock through the window you mentioned. If there's more to it, then by all means, elaborate.

Well if I have reasons then surely you want to know them and you seemed to be giving me a pass that you weren't giving others. And if you assume I didn't have reasons then again it's curious that you're just letting me get away with voting someone for no particular reason.

[Alduskkel]

Now seeking a replacement for ZazieR.

[Sho Minamimoto]

muzzz, if there are no reactions to a vote, how can it stir things as DDD openly desired. Is it for his claim you think it has nothing to do in terms of being a serious vote?

[muzzz]

@DDD: I assumed you did have a reason. That reason being you wanted to stir up the game. Which is good enough for me.

@Sho: The lack of reactions says nothing about DDD's intent. I'm not sure what you mean by the last part.

@Raivann: 484. And you might wanna respond to 492 as well, even though it doesn't have a question mark.

[ekiM]

First of all, sorry for the delay. Last few days have been crazy.

Reading what I've missed, I'm a little surprised by the speed with which the last few votes on Exalt came yesterday. Self-hammering didn't help, of course.

Raivann, what's up with all the 180s towards the end of yesterdy?

ConfidAnon, was your vote for Exalt because you wanted to make sure we had a lynch before deadline? Why did you join with the person you were trying to lynch (Raivann) to lynch someone else?

Sho, what "Exalt-Raiv" connections were you referring to in 461?

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Obvious night kill is obvious---now the masons are outed they'll be knocked off first. Nothing to conclude from this.

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itacv2, ConfidAnon, and ZazieR go back to their previous suspicions. OK.

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Raivann says ConfidAnon is scum for the way he joined the Exalt wagon. Some OK points. However, you joined his wagon making it the biggest, which looks a bit like self-defence.

No vote. Why?

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DDD tries to shake the game up by voting for Sho. I think isn't very useful without an argument to back it up.

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itacv2 is being replaced. Hopefully his replacement will be more engaged.

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Sho votes me for not posting when I said I would. Shrug, wasn't on all weekend.

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Mhm, and the self-hammer was so pro town. Although, I must say at least you're voting me with something that resebles a reason.



As for everyone on Raiv, ekiM, and muzzz, reasons anyone? A case? A theory? Give me something to work with.

You're the only one voting me o_0. Not paying attention?

Also, are you basically asking for someone to give you a bandwagon to follow? Why not do some scumhunting of your own?

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Zazie replaced? Bleh, he was one of the active ones.

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DDD - got reasons or not? Don't be coy, now.

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That's me caught up on developments. Not decided on a vote yet.

[ZazieR]

Now seeking a replacement for ZazieR.

If possible, I'd like to stay. I didn't post for two/three days ._.

[Alduskkel]

Now seeking a replacement for ZazieR.

If possible, I'd like to stay. I didn't post for two/three days ._.

Acknowledged, but take note that you disappeared for an entire week in this game.

[Raivann]

Raivann, what's up with all the 180s towards the end of yesterdy?

Everytime I read the thread I thought something different

Raivann says ConfidAnon is scum for the way he joined the Exalt wagon. Some OK points. However, you joined his wagon making it the biggest, which looks a bit like self-defence.

No vote. Why?

I'm trying to be less spaztaztic today. I think day 1 was a good day for that, move my vote around alot and see what kind of reactions I get, and not to mention I didn't have a clue who scum was.

I am still thinking that ConfidAnon may be scum, however muzzz has slid under the radar.

Both people who were sure DDD is scum are dead.

I'm not sure about Sho. He says there is a exalt/raivann connection, but Exalt was town. So that wouldn't help his scum motives.

ekiM has appeared most townie to me, so there is a good chance he is probably scum.

So right now my top suspects are:

Muzzz
CofidAnon

And to a lesser extent:

Zazie
DDD

[Raivann]

And since when was Toro your buddy?

@Raivann: saying I "go with the flow" and "blend in"

after I start attacking your buddy Toro?

As Zazie would say: noted.

[Raivann]

I just read Exalt's post 427 again and he makes some good points regarding a possible muzzz/DDD scumteam.

[Raivann]

@DDD: because I assumed your vote was intended as the rock through the window you mentioned. If there's more to it, then by all means, elaborate.

Well if I have reasons then surely you want to know them and you seemed to be giving me a pass that you weren't giving others. And if you assume I didn't have reasons then again it's curious that you're just letting me get away with voting someone for no particular reason.

I too find it curious that muzzz gave you a pass. Muzzz also defended you when Toro vote you.

Vote: Toro
For tunneling on DDD.

[Sho Minamimoto]

@ekim: Just read Exalt's first post on that page (450?) as pleading a scum partner to unvote. My theory was obviously terrible.

And no, I am not looking for a bandwagon. I would vote one of them, but all these starting votes seem to lack justification. I just want some justification, which would allow me to root out the worthless wagons and vote the person starting it. But, this seems to be a largely ignored trend, and I am just churning up the same point over and over again.

[Santos]

muzzz, who is scum?

[muzzz]

Vote: Raivann

You ignored that 'buddy' comment for two weeks. And now that Toro is a confirmed mason you suddenly pick up on it. You're desperately fishing for townie cred, aren't you?

That would explain your crappy case on me, too. I'm done explaining my stance on Toro/DDD. If you want to vote me for that, be my guest. But you're clutching at straws here.

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@Santos: I suppose that answers your question?

[Raivann]

You're seriously gonna put me at L1 because I jokingly called Toro my buddy after you did and then didn't answer your question about it because it was you who originally posted it?

Town, Let us lynch muzzz.

[Raivann]

@Toro: mostly because you lack arguments. Seriously, DDD has got more on Raivann than you do on him.

And regardless of that, tunneling is always bad. Especially if there's more than one scumbag left.

Here's another example of the muzzz & DDD lovefest.

[ekiM]

And no, I am not looking for a bandwagon. I would vote one of them, but all these starting votes seem to lack justification. I just want some justification, which would allow me to root out the worthless wagons and vote the person starting it. But, this seems to be a largely ignored trend, and I am just churning up the same point over and over again.

I ask again: why can't you do scumhunting yourself? All you've done today is ask other people to give you a reason to vote.

Vote: Sho

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Muzz, why is Raivann saying "my buddy" worth a vote? Seriously, Raivann feels pretty townie to me at the moment and I don't remember you being suspicious of him before.