Mafia 96 - Murder in Emerald City (Game Over!)

[SerialClergyman]

And Hayker man, get with the program. ckd isn't hammered.

[SpyreX]

Unless CKD is playing games within games the "I thought I was hammered" rings town (or you think CKD and I are scum together playing at something).

Regardless, what do you think about what I laid out for CKD tonight? It clears up something the scum for whatever reason have been real itchy to not do as well as, depending, deal with the CKD issue.

I'm tired though and it looks like the fun excitement has died. CKD is not the right call for tonight now.

[SpyreX]

Consider this 15 minutes.

[SerialClergyman]

Yeah, the stuff you laid out for CKD might be what I go with. I admit that I started to feel that awful feeling when I saw bah go town, but then.. it wasn't a hammer, and I'm surprised he didn't think that. Your posts you have to admit look like they're playing right into that scenario. I just can't rule it out without thinking about it.

I'm just doing the maths now.

We have 10 people

Say ckd is hider with a mason. If cerulean hits one mason and vermillon hits the other, we lose 3 town roles. With lowell scum that leaves 2 vemillon and 1 cerulean. But then the scum might choose the same mason, which means either 1 or 2 deaths. And if we lynch ckd and he's town then we'll definitely be 3 down and won't have a chance to lynch Lowell..

Bah. Too many combinations, aren't there. Goddam it I hate this game sometimes.

[SerialClergyman]

I think if it weren't for your reaction I'd probably have just thought it was nothing.. but then seeing the two of you together being wrong about the hammer AND the time pressure quick quick vote Lowell gives me pause.. damn damn damn.

Gonna go do an unofficial votecount.

[SpyreX]

If the masons are masons they will die soon. Its a given.

If the masons are pulling a gambit this means that CKD-scum, unless the numbers are way off, is not scum with them so his "hide" behind them would be a death.

If CKD is town this is forcing the scum to pull a move they didn't want to do yet in trying to hit masons at this point. Especially when its so choreographed investigative AND protective roles that exist will be all over them.

I'm seeing far more upside than downside from this regardless.

[SerialClergyman]

=Vote Count #65=-

curiouskarmadog (5) - Kublai Khan, Xylthixlm, Lowell, SpyreX, Kmd4390
Lowell (4) - SerialClergyman, Faraday, Hayker, curiouskarmadog
Kmd4390 (1) - Wickedestjr

Not Voting (0)

6 to lynch.

So KK unvotes
SC unvotes
SC votes ckd
Spy unvotes and votes Lowell

So CKD is currently on 3 votes, Xyl Lowell and KMD
Lowell is currently on 4 votes, Spy, Faraday, Hayker and CKD

[SpyreX]

And I'll lay it out like thus:

If Lowell flips Cerulean I'd put hard money on Faraday-Kmd being the Vermillions.

If Lowell flips Vermillion I'm really not sure. I'd have to go back and REALLY give Xyl another read.

If Lowell flips town I'd be a little flabbergasted.

Its past bedtime though. I had to spellcheck like 10 words in this post.

[SerialClergyman]

Yes. And the Lowell lynch will give us a good idea of the possible scumteams around as well. I think you're probably right.

But I have to be careful thinking if you're vermillon with ckd and possibly someone else, and there's one more cerulean around, we'll end up going with your plan we could be in a difficult spot. If Lowell is Cerulean, which is unlikely, then you'll have 2 or even 3 vermillon out of 8. Even if we managed to get you and ckd, we'd have to get the last one perfect and that's not ideal. If Lowell is town, then we have your team plus another Cerulean nightkilling around and it's essentially the end of the game.

God I don't know.

[SerialClergyman]

Sorry, look you can go to bed, I think you're correct and I'm probably just being paranoid.. I think you probably can't get a town tell like a premature bah post, and if you guys were scum just pretending you guys are absolute dicks and on par with the 'fake' vote thing.

vote lowell

[SerialClergyman]

CKD, where'd you go?

Do you stand by what you said about Spy, that you didn't believe he didn't realise you were hammered (which turned out to be untrue).

[Kmd4390]

Unvote

Just got home. 3:30 AM. Fun night, but head isn't in the right place. Skimmed quick. Saw hider claim. Want Serial to die. Will lynch Lowell if necessary.

[Xylthixlm]

Actually you may have just bought yourself another night.

If its every two nights unless you did something VERY weird you can hide tonight.

Hide behind a mason. Either one, dont care, dont say.

You die and no masons die, masons are scum pulling the awesomest gambit.

You die and a mason dies the other is confirmed.

A mason dies and you dont... well, we deal with that if it happens.

Its late enough that even the other side can't let you live much longer.

So, back around for the fifth time.

Unvote, Vote: Lowell

Xyl I know you're not down with this lynch but we need it to happen.

SC, you too.

I'm having trouble believing the claim, but the hide-behind-a-mason plan is good.

Mmmmh.

Don't like "why didn't anyone ask me to claim" at

all

.

Possibilities...
* ckd is a hider.
* ckd is scum.
* ckd is a scum hider.

Why did ckd only hide once?

If ckd is telling the truth he should have breadcrumbed his hide behind kublai_khan.

I don't know if ckd plays town after the hammer. I'm not going to assume he doesn't.

Thinking.

[Xylthixlm]

-=Unofficial vote count=-

curiouskarmadog (2) - Xylthixlm, Lowell
Lowell (5) - Faraday, Hayker, curiouskarmadog, SpyreX, SerialClergyman
Kmd4390 (1) - Wickedestjr

Not Voting (2) - Kublai Khan, Kmd4390

6 to lynch.

[Xylthixlm]

I don't see a breadcrumb from ckd. Claim is dubious at best.

Gut says curiouskarmadog and Kmd are both scum. Probably different teams.

SpyreX is going to be flabbergasted. Kmd is Cerulean, curiouskarmadog and Faraday are Vermillion. I think.

[Faraday]

Ckd is claiming an every second night hider? Who's only hid once? That's not a claim I was expecting. The plan sounds okay though. Although it doesn't really prove anything if he's scum fake claiming. Still going with my town read on him, and saying I'm more content with a Lowell lynch than ever.
I think the plan that spy has lined up:
[quote=SpyreX's plan]If the masons are pulling a gambit this means that CKD-scum, unless the numbers are way off, is not scum with them so his "hide" behind them would be a death.

If CKD is town this is forcing the scum to pull a move they didn't want to do yet in trying to hit masons at this point. Especially when its so choreographed investigative AND protective roles that exist will be all over them. [/quote]
Is correct, although I don't find it especially likely the masons are pulling a gambit. Their play has been kinda weird, but I get the legit feeling from them and have them obv town.

Also deadline is looming pretty quickly. Lowell is at L-1 atm ftr.

[Faraday]

Bah fucking tags, intention is clear though.

[iamausername]

-=Vote Count #66=-

Lowell (5) - Faraday, Hayker, curiouskarmadog, SpyreX, SerialClergyman
curiouskarmadog (2) - Xylthixlm, Lowell
Kmd4390 (1) - Wickedestjr

Not Voting (2) - Kublai Khan, Kmd4390

6 to lynch.

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[Lowell]

You guys are immense chumps. The "every other day hider" claim makes no sense. Still it's verifiable, so whatever.

Here's an idea. Let me live. Have him hide behind me.

unvote, vote kmd

. Someone other than me, please. I'm finally starting to pay attention to this and you'll need me.

[Kublai Khan]

You guys are immense chumps. The "every other day hider" claim makes no sense. Still it's verifiable, so whatever.

Here's an idea. Let me live. Have him hide behind me.

unvote, vote kmd

. Someone other than me, please. I'm finally starting to pay attention to this and you'll need me.

Why you?

If you are townie, and hider-curiouskarmadog hides behind you, then you'll be targetted and you'll both die. (2 Deaths)
If you are scum, and hider-curiouskarmadog hides behind you, then he dies and you get a mafia kill. (2 deaths)
If you are scum, and curiouskarmadog is your scum partners, then it's a ploy to look town.

Bad plan. SpyreX's mason plan is much, much better. Even if the worse case scenario happens and 2 townies (mason + hider) die, we still have 2 confirmed townies (other mason + me).

Willing to hammer Lowell at this point.

[Kublai Khan]

Deadline is just over 2 & 1/2 hours away from this post. Lowell has to be hammered before deadline.

I'll be online for the next couple of hours, but will probably hammer with an hour left to go (playing it on the safe side). So if anyone wants to say anything game-changing, now is the time to do it.

[Xylthixlm]

You guys are immense chumps. The "every other day hider" claim makes no sense. Still it's verifiable, so whatever.

Here's an idea. Let me live. Have him hide behind me.

unvote, vote kmd

. Someone other than me, please. I'm finally starting to pay attention to this and you'll need me.

Huh. Lowell is the last Cerulean.

[Kublai Khan]

Huh. Lowell is the last Cerulean.

Same thing crossed my mind.

[Xylthixlm]

I'm almost tempted to let this go no lynch so Lowell can take a shot at the Vermillions.

[Kmd4390]

Wait, why is he Cerulean? Do we need a hammer or not?