MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (SSK's Subgame): Game OVER!

[whoot1234]

Crovax the Cursed

[Boxman]

http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/ ... rseid=5106

That's Crovax the Cursed. Not sure if it really fits - but it exists at least.

Thoughts?

[chenhsi]

Crovax? Hmm..

http://www.phyrexia.com/continuity/Crovax.shtml
http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Crovax

Based on the character, I say that whoot/Crovax should die. Miller... not sure I believe this claim.

[Starbuck]

Zwet came up as a white card and was a townie.

I would think that a black card (the opposite of white in the game) would be mafia.

For those that haven't read the card, here is what it says:


"Legendary - Vampire

Crovax the Cursed enters the battlefield with four +1/+1 counters on it.

At the beginning of your upkeep, you may sacrifice a creature. If you do, put a +1/+1 counter on Crovax. If you don't, remove a +1/+1 counter from Crovax.

Black: Crovax gains flying until end of turn."

[Starbuck]

I don't believe that Whoot is a miller, not with that card. I want to hear a little more from him.

[Boxman]

^I doubt that it's that easy to find mafia. After all, the only CONFIRMED mafiat we've seen was Percy, who was Metallic Sliver, a brownish-gray card. I doubt card color is really an indicator here.

[Starbuck]

^I doubt that it's that easy to find mafia. After all, the only CONFIRMED mafiat we've seen was Percy, who was Metallic Sliver, a brownish-gray card. I doubt card color is really an indicator here.

That's not brownish-gray, it's an Artifact card.

[Starbuck]

Card color has everything to do with what faction you are in a Magic game.

[chenhsi]

Specifically, Metallic Slivers are colorless. All artifacts are colorless, I believe.

Card color does determine your faction, in most packs. Undead and Demons are almost always black, for example, and are always always evil. The Kamigawa packs is one difference (all 5 colors spirits vs all 5 colors humans).

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised that instead of a normal cop or a role cop, we have a color cop.

http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Color_wheel
The colors and what they represent, for those that don't know it.

[MafiaSSK]

Shotty to the Body replaces Sideney!

[Boxman]

^I doubt that it's that easy to find mafia. After all, the only CONFIRMED mafiat we've seen was Percy, who was Metallic Sliver, a brownish-gray card. I doubt card color is really an indicator here.

That's not brownish-gray, it's an Artifact card.

Ah. I don't play Magic, so I didn't know. Thanks for the clarification.

Now that all of this information has come to light, I'm fairly sure that whoot is scum. My vote stays.

[whoot1234]

it specifys i am miller right after the information about my card. what reason would I have to claim miller if I wasnt? I believe that the scum in this game consist of slivers and there is a sliver overlord or queen as mufasa mentioned..

[Starbuck]

it specifys i am miller right after the information about my card. what reason would I have to claim miller if I wasnt? I believe that the scum in this game consist of slivers and there is a sliver overlord or queen as mufasa mentioned..

In the whole of Magic, just like chenhsi said about the 5 color spirits and humans, there are 5 color slivers.

What you just said about the scum being slivers is quite an assumption to make when you think about the whole line of Magic: the Gathering cards.

[Boxman]

it specifys i am miller right after the information about my card. what reason would I have to claim miller if I wasnt? I believe that the scum in this game consist of slivers and there is a sliver overlord or queen as mufasa mentioned..

Miller is a fairly common scum fakeclaim, I believe. It's used mostly because a cop can't disprove it, I think.

Also, the sliver thing is a bit of a stretch. Just from reading up on the Weatherlight Saga, I'd think Volrath and his goons would be mafia, especially with the Metallic Sliver's flavor text.

[whoot1234]

Starbuck you obviously dont play the card game because if you did you know that creature types are more commonly linked then card colors...

thats why I think mufasa's suggestion of goblin king and goblins and Silver queen/overlord and sllivers would be correct as in tars game pyro already hinted at being unrecruitable townie which leads me to believe that sliver queen is the mafia recruiter..

[chenhsi]

What do you mean, creature types are commonly linked? That there are multiple creature with the same type? What does that have to do with this game?

Why would sliver queens recruit?
Anyway, slivers don't appear in Kamigawa. I don't think they appear in Time Spiral, but I'm not familiar with that story line.

vote: whoot1234

L-1.
Everyone else: Please don't hammer until we get more opinions. I doubt anyone would quickhammer though.

Boxman: Agree that Volrath is likely to be scum, if he exists. Crovax the Cursed eventually replaces Volrath as scum leader though, which is why I think Crovax is scum.

[Head_Honcho]

I wonder if whoot just explained the setup to us.

Didn't realize how long it had been, but kind of an early prod mod!

[Head_Honcho]

Whoot do you have anything special going on or are you just a miller?

[whoot1234]

Whoot do you have anything special going on or are you just a miller?

What do you mean by special> btw > are my question marks because button broken...

What do you mean, creature types are commonly linked? That there are multiple creature with the same type? What does that have to do with this game?

First question have you just read about magic, or have you actively played the card game> Being an expert magic player and playing in regional tournaments, I know for certain that each creature card has a creature type... and in the card games certain creatures work very well with eachother, ie examples include goblins with their low mana costs they work well in numbers and a goblin king gives them mountain walk and also there are cards like goblin attack force that deals a point of damage to target creature or player depending on how many goblins you have under your control. Goblins are primarily red but in these sets you'll find a lot of black goblin as well.

There are also elves which are notorisouly known for large amount of mana generation and they also have "head honchos" such as elven druids and lords. Elves are primarily green but there are exceptions.

Slivers are very well known working together as it seems each sliver has an ability that applies to all other slivers such as all slivers gain flying, all slivers gain protection from blue etc.... I would not be surprised if they are a scum group here in this game.

chenhsi yes these creatures are commonly linked in the card game to working together, there are many creatures who share the same creature type, and I believe this is the prime setup of the game.

I am sure a lot will be revealed at the conclusion of FL's night so I believe we should wait for that night to end before we make a hasty lynch here.

[Boxman]

I agree with whoot's final statement - we should wait for FL's night to finish up before lynching.

And by "special" he means any other abilities you may have besides Miller.

[chenhsi]

I play magic. Often.

I do know that creatures share the same type. However, I think that these setups are based on the stories: Volrath (and later Crovax) vs the Weatherlight crew. This makes sense to me, since Metallic Slivers were made by Volrath to get an influence on the Sliver hive.

The black goblins are mainly Boggarts, which don't really work with the red goblins. I have not seen them appear in a goblin deck before, only in other decks.

[whoot1234]

no the only other ability I have is the ability to vote

[whoot1234]

I've seen a goblin dragon deck with goblins and dragons... but I have not read the stories... my gut since that its based off the card game and the kamigawa is based off your spirits vs humans.

[chenhsi]

I meant that I have never seen black goblins in a pure goblin deck. A pure goblin deck would likely be all-red.

Apparently slivers do appear in Time Spiral.

Anyway, your only defense right now is based on trying to guess the setup. Not a good guess either, imo.

[whoot1234]

its not a guess....

And we have already seen flipped creatures that weren't from any of the sets...

We have about 24 hours till the night deadline in FL's game is reached btw.