Open 144 - Near-Vanilla - GAME OVER!

[Alduskkel]

We're lynching Khamisa for actively lurking though.

And I'd rather you get replaced than stop playing, hohum.

[hohum]

well I'm not going to allow myself to be replaced.

[hohum]

this lurker hunt is going to cause us to LOSE

I'm VHEIMENTLY OPPOSED TO A KHAS LYNCH.

Andytony should be lynched.

KTHNX BAI

[hohum]

C'MON IM LURKING TOO LETS WASTE MORE MISLYNCHES!!@%(&@!$*(@%

[hohum]

we'll all hold hands together and go off the cliff, sounds like fun to me.

[Alduskkel]

well I'm not going to allow myself to be replaced.

Why not?

[hohum]

well I'm not going to allow myself to be replaced.

Why not?

Because the lurker wagons are being driven by scum. I'm not going to allow myself to be replaced so that the scum team has another sheep which will happily go along with this nonsense and say nothing.

[Alduskkel]

well I'm not going to allow myself to be replaced.

Why not?

Because the lurker wagons are being driven by scum. I'm not going to allow myself to be replaced so that the scum team has another sheep which will happily go along with this nonsense and say nothing.

And what makes you say that your replacer will be a sheep?

[hohum]

give up. it's not going to happen.

[Alduskkel]

Why?

[AndyTony]

Hohum, if you paid any attention you would see that Kham is being looked at for ACTIVELY lurking - and for me, primarily, the fact that she has been playing it safe.

@ hohum - - can you not ruin this game for us? You behavior is very anti-town, and your kicking and screaming won't accomplish anything.

There's no need for this behavior.

It's not a lurker hunt, it's a scum hunt -
why are you ignoring us?
what special knowledge do you have that makes it a mislynch?
if the wagon is driven by scum, why call me scum and forget I'm on the wagon late?
what investigating have you tried to accomplish today?

all you've done is crossed your arms, sighed a whining moan, and demanded the lynch of a player you haven't investigated, called the town's scumhunting efforts of the day fruitless, and threatened to ruin the game for us.

All without a leg to stand on or evidence.

How can we take you seriously or fairly consider your ideas when you behave this way?

You will hurt the town - you will make the game less fun. Please stop.

[Kise]

hohum isn't distracting me. Vote is staying.

[Kdub]

this lurker hunt is going to cause us to LOSE

I'm VHEIMENTLY OPPOSED TO A KHAS LYNCH.

Andytony should be lynched.

KTHNX BAI

How about giving reasons for lynching AT? You agreed with MC's case on him, but he's addressed a lot of those points. Do you have new ones to bring up, or issues with his response?

[pablito]

unvote, vote: Kdub

[Crazy]

Vote Count:

Alduskkel (2)

- ODDin, MadCrawdad

AndyTony (2)

- hohum, d3x

d3x (0)

hohum (0)

Kdub (1)

- pablito

Khamisa (5)

- Kdub, lobstermania, Alduskkel, Kise, AndyTony

Kise (0)

lobstermania (0)

MadCrawdad (0)

ODDin (0)

pablito (0)

Zer0ph34r (0)

Not voting (2)

- Khamisa, Zer0ph34r

With 12 alive, 7 votes will achieve a lynch.

Deadline for Day 2 is

August 27th.

[lobstermania]

This is just turning into a farce....

hohum: You reason that the game is going nowhere and the town is going to mis-lynch, but why offer other choices to mis-lynch with? Just join the Khamisa wagon and stfu.

[Khamisa]

d3x: but see, if people suspect this, smart scum isn't going to want to buddy with town. That's meta. Sure, people make tells, but they're still smart.

As for my wagon, I feel it wasn't good timing for the V/LA to occur, seeing how I was already under suspicion.

Personally, I don't think I can recover

hohum: You want to not advocate my lynch and you'd rather people lynch you? that is just weird.

I guess before I get lynched I'd like a clear definition of active lurking, how I'm doing it, and why it's scummy.

[Alduskkel]

Lurking:
-You're posting is sparse and short even when you're not V/LA
-You often don't know what's going on it seems, meaning you aren't really contributing to discussion. For instance you thought that the case against Cephrir completely revolved around the note to self, and forgot about the possibility of Doctor protection (given the lack of a kill)
How It's Active Lurking:
The main thing is that you actually went and checked several of Cephrir's games just to get his meta. That was a definite contribution, but it means that you

can

contribute when you feel like it, but don't seem to feel like it very often.

And you still haven't really said what post made you change your mind about Zer0ph34r.

[Alduskkel]

EBWOP:
You're-->your

[d3x]

Scummy behavior is scummy behavior. The reasons you've given are ultimately WIFOM. "Scum wouldn't do it because it's scummy", doesn't hold water.

You refered to your staying power and your unfortunate V/LA timing, but you haven't said anything about the makeup of the wagon. What are your views on that? Again, do you think it is a just wagon? Do you think the suspicion on you is valid {from the Town's PoV}?

Do you feel it's justified due to the players' cases against you? What are your impressions of those players? Do you think it's being championed by Scum or misguided Town, especially considering the 2 players you have "minor suspicions" of arent' on it?

[d3x]

Given Ald's definition of active lurking, do you believe you're guilty of it?

[Kdub]

Pablito: Explain your vote?

lobstermania: Not really liking the tone of your last post. It seems to suggest a bit of certainty that AT would be a mislynch. I'm not accusing you of anything yet, but I felt I should point it out.

Khamisa: I felt you were active lurking because on D1, you seemed to post quickly after prods were requested on you, and were posting in other games but not in this one. That seems to me like you were following along but intentionally not saying anything. If you really are town, then please share your opinions on the rest of the players. Who do you suspect, who looks town, etc.

[AndyTony]

My own idea on active lurking is being present enough to NOT be lurking, but hardly contributing or being present for it to even matter.

Meaning that Kham, when you WERE present, you didn't investigate and you played the game a little too safe for my liking (trying to avoid confrontation and negative attention by sitting on the fence) - - did you have nothing to offer? Anything to fight for? Any passion for a thought or idea? In my opinion: no.

I feel that you've played far too safe and have tip-toed as best you can, and it's finally caught up with you.

I've played in games with you where you've been the polar opposite (with V/LA's included if memory serves) so this is kind of uncharacteristic, I feel.

That being said:

Can you prove that theory wrong? If you indeed have not been playing it safe, and voicing/agreeing, sitting on the fence to avoid confrontation - - - have you indeed scum hunted or made observations of your own? Do you have a case to present us or a fresh look on something? Do you have anyone that you'd finally like to investigate? Anything to challenge? The whole ordeal seems as complacent and easy going as D1 D2 gameplay from you (even going so far as to accept your lynch in the above post)

[AndyTony]

*posted right after reading 1142

all caught up now

[Zer0ph34r]

replacement needed. i can't stay in this game anymore.

mod, replace me.