MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (SSK's Subgame): Game OVER!

[Starbuck]

But even if you assumed it was a suped up VT, would that still be town in your eyes?

[chenhsi]

See? I was right! Kamigawa is gods vs humans. According to Mufasa's theory, the gods would need a leader, which would probably be O-Kagachi, which isn't a card. Except as Final Judgment, but that isn't a creature. Which is why I doubt Mufasa's theory.

whoot is being ... annoying. *sigh* I would vote him, but I can't tell if he is stupid-town or stupid-scum.

[Starbuck]

Mod: Please prod Jebus as he has yet to post anything.

Will do.

[Sudai]

Whoot, why would you assume that a power role is the same as a VT? If you didn't know what it was, as you claim, why didn't you look it up? It's not hard.

I want to analyze the bandwagon from yesterday, but I'm going to do that later tonight. I just woke up and I feel kind of sick so I'm going back to sleep. I'll have that up sometime tonight or early tomorrow though.

[Slicey]

Mod: Please prod Jebus as he has yet to post anything.

Will do.

Jebus is in this game? >_>

Let's take a look at this wagon on zwets.

Zwetschenwasser(7):Boxman,Slicey,Percy,Zakeri,Sudai,Qwints,Whoot1234

Boxman basically random voted him and never took it off and never really justified his vote on him. Why exactly did you vote for him?

I already explained my reasons for voting him, and I would have unvoted as soon as Starbuck posted what card he was had I been here.

Percy is confirmed scum.

Zakeri voted zwet based purely on meta, not really his play in this game. While I do agree that his meta is incredibly anti-town, I don't really think it should be based purely on that. Did you believe his claim?

I like Sudai's vote. I've liked his play so far this game.

I already explained qwints and Whoot's votes and why they were scummy.

There's probably one or two scum on zwet's BW. We know Percy is one, I think the other one or two are probably qwints and whoot.

To those that didn't vote zwet:
Did you believe his claim? If not, why?

[Starbuck]

Mod: Please prod Jebus as he has yet to post anything.

Will do.

I don't know how I did that, but I meant to post that in the Empire at War game. Rofl @ me!

[MafiaSSK]

Mod: Please prod Jebus as he has yet to post anything.

Will do.

I don't know how I did that, but I meant to post that in the Empire at War game. Rofl @ me!

Whoops. Well at least he didn't read it. Just for clarification Jebus is NOT in this game.

[Slicey]

Speaking of which, sidney needs a prod/replacement.

Alright. Prodded.

[Starbuck]

Mod: Please prod Jebus as he has yet to post anything.

Will do.

I don't know how I did that, but I meant to post that in the Empire at War game. Rofl @ me!

Whoops. Well at least he didn't read it. Just for clarification Jebus is NOT in this game.

I'm sorry for being retarded. I just got done taking my Physics final so my retardation should step down a notch.

[chenhsi]

I believed zwet's claim.

[Zakeri]

Okay, considering the flip was of scum, I'm retracting everything I said yesterday about thinking there's only one scum team per game. This basically throws out everything I had against Chenshi and a few others yesterday.

I'm not certain which way to lean on Starbuck. On one hand, she hasn't done much worth attacking unlike what HeadHoncho thinks (I don't think she was hiding from anything yesterday, I was under the impression she was busy.) Likewise, I don't buy into Slicey's metaclearing of Starbuck unless he's had sufficient experience with her both as scum and town. Differences in playstyle can only be observed if they're made. The end result is that I'm not wanting to jump on her lynchwagon, but I don't think it would be fruitless to prod her.

isnt bullet proof a suped up vanilla townie.?

This is wrong on so many levels.

First of all, VT claims are not policy lynch. The reason most VT claims go through is because people sufficiently think they are scum, and lynching a VT is comparatively worth it if the person behind it is likely lying about their role.
Secondly, while it is worth doubting his claim, especially on day one, you seemed to have jumped way to quickly onto it, as if the bulletproof claim helped you decide it was worth voting him.
And finally, you can't end your sentences with both a period and a question mark.

I can't find anything wrong with stating that Bullet proof is a souped up vanilla townie in itself. From previous experiences I've known Serial Killers (And I myself as well) Have fakeclaimed Bulletproof like scum would fakeclaim vanilla townie. I typically consider them the same in that regards.

@Sudai: I was indifferent to his claim actually, thanks to the above. I didn't consider it telling if he was scum or not. And yeah, I have a bad habit of voting people because they are Anti-town and try to get away with it by saying "But I'm always anti-town!"

right now, though, Whoot's quicklynch looks the most scummy since it felt rushed. Also slightly suspicious of Boxman now for the unconfirmed random vote, but since scum pressed on it, I don't think it's worth pursuing yet.

Vote: Whoot1234

(L-2)

Whoever got Quints, well, good luck with him :3

[Starbuck]

I actually have been busy this week. I'm in the military and I'm about to head out for my 3rd watch of this week. My friends had their second baby on Weds and I was the babysitter for their older son, and on top of all that I had my Physics final/last class last night. The watch I'm on today is 12 hours with no internet access so you won't here back from me until around 6 pm or so my time (GMT +1).

I have been reading along though and have posted my thoughts as we have gone. Unfortunately, it seems that's not enough, but I do find it contradictory that HeadHoncho is coming after me when he only started posting legitimately a few days ago.

[Sudai]

@Mod: Can we get a vote count?

Would probably be good to analyze both wagons at once since Whoot's already at L-2 so I'm going to wait till I get the vote count to make things easier on me.

@Zakeri, I never directed a question at you. That was Slicey.

Also, I know I wasn't asked, but I didn't believe Zwets claim upon initially reading it. Mostly because of how adamant he was about his anti-town metaplay and how backwards that is for a bullet proof. Despite that though, he was lynched by the time I read his claim so even if I did believe it that wouldn't have changed anything.

Btw, my vote is Whoot atm, but I don't want to put him at L-1 yet because I don't want another quicklynch like yesterday.

[Slicey]

So, Zakeri, you voted him not because you didn't believe his claim, but because of his playstyle, correct?

[MafiaSSK]

The Fourth Vote Count (aka the "Second Day" Vote Count)

13) Sideney (0)
15)Starbuck (1):Head_Honcho
16) chenhsi(0):
17) Whoot1234(3):Boxman,Slicey,Zakeri
18) Zakeri(0):
20) Slicey(0)
21) Sudai(0):
22) Head_Honcho(0):
23) Boxman(0):

[Zakeri]

@Zakeri, I never directed a question at you. That was Slicey.

My apologies.

So, Zakeri, you voted him not because you didn't believe his claim, but because of his playstyle, correct?

Correct. Like I said above, SK is likely to claim Bulletproof like mafia is to vanilla townie, so It was a nulltell to me.

[Slicey]

How about after Starbuck posted what card he was?

Also, I want a whoot claim now.

[Boxman]

Anyway, it looks like whoot's at L-3 - with 10 alive, it should be 6 to lynch.

Anyway, I'd still like a claim from him.

Also, I honestly didn't have time to see the card Starbuck posted before whoot laid down the hammer - it was barely 40 minutes later. I don't believe I was on at that time.

[Slicey]

Boxman, answer my question please.

Also, there's only 9 left. qwints was moved to another game.

[Boxman]

@slicey: The reasons I never took it off?

1. His "hammer only" policy seemed a very anti-town idea, and having no clue of Zwet's meta beyond a few games, it seemed like a good place to keep my vote.

2. On another site I play on, Bulletproof is a common scum claim. Having played no previous games here with Bulletproofs, I assumed the same. I probably would've unvoted if I had seen Starbuck's card post in time. Bah.

[Boxman]

Oh, you're right. I looked at the vote count and it has 10 names.

Mod: You've still got Percy in the vote count.

Thanks.

[chenhsi]

Awaiting whoot's response.

[MafiaSSK]

Replacing Sideney as he/she has failed to pick up their prod. Prodding Whoot1234 and Head_Honcho.

[whoot1234]

guys I am a Townie miller, so sheriffs if you invistigate me it will say that I am mafia.

[Boxman]

....A miller claim?

Do you at least have a card name?