The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

Stephoscope · Post Post #3600 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:43 am

Stephoscope wrote:Setael is a fine upstanding member of our community. There is absolutely no reason to lynch her or disbelieve what she's said about the matches.

Also,
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For the record, this was

You put your right leg in, you put your right leg out, you put your right leg in, and Setael is an Innocent.

and can be verified at http://www.miraclesalad.com/webtools/md5.php or any md5 hash site.

Pyromaniac · Post Post #3601 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 2:48 am

Sajin died AGAIN. Ugh. I can't tell anjything from this NK. My guess is that lamont is right and it does become aligned with the mafia, not an SK. Due to only one NK

Stephoscope · Post Post #3602 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:04 am

Pyromaniac wrote:Sajin died AGAIN. Ugh. I can't tell anjything from this NK. My guess is that lamont is right and it does become aligned with the mafia, not an SK. Due to only one NK

Sajin had the matches and was confirmed, and I guess Amished wasn't around to protect him. We need to try and figure out if the game is even winnable at this point.

dramonic · Post Post #3603 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:16 am

Great, so we might now be unable to win the game and to top it off, odds are we are currently in MyLo

Also, update to the list!

dramonic

Cleared by Stepho

Stephoscope

Cleared by Naomi

Devestation

Cleared by Naomi

Amished

Cleared by Hohum/Elmo

Lamont_Cranston
zwetschenwasser
Sironigous
Pyromaniac
ZazieR
Populartajo

If we have 4 scum, which still sounds like a plausible amount to me for a 19 player game, we are now in MyLo

My gut says Tajo, but at this point in the game the scum can quickvote and lynch, so I'm not voting yet

Knight of Cydonia · Post Post #3604 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:41 am

As the town drags Sajin's body out to the yard for burial, you find a box of matches under his collapsed corpse. Every one of them is broken, utterly unusable.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3605 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:42 am

My guess is that SOMEBODY has the matches now. And for the record, its not me.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3606 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:46 am

dramonic wrote:Great, so we might now be unable to win the game and to top it off, odds are we are currently in MyLo

Also, update to the list!

dramonic
Cleared by Stepho

Stephoscope
Cleared by Naomi

Devestation
Cleared by Naomi

Amished
Cleared by Hohum/Elmo

Lamont_Cranston
zwetschenwasser
Sironigous
Pyromaniac
ZazieR
Populartajo

If we have 4 scum, which still sounds like a plausible amount to me for a 19 player game, we are now in MyLo

My gut says Tajo, but at this point in the game the scum can quickvote and lynch, so I'm not voting yet

Sironi cleared himself with the town PM. Zazier cleared hersel the same way.

That leaves:

Lamont_Cranston
zwetschenwasser
Pyromaniac
Populartajo

There is no way I'm voting for Pyro. That leaves Tajo or Zwet. I think we need to ISO these folks and figure out what is going on with them.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3607 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:48 am

dramonic wrote:Great, so we might now be unable to win the game and to top it off, odds are we are currently in MyLo

Also, update to the list!

dramonic
Cleared by Stepho

Stephoscope
Cleared by Naomi

Devestation
Cleared by Naomi

Amished
Cleared by Hohum/Elmo

Lamont_Cranston
zwetschenwasser
Sironigous
Pyromaniac
ZazieR
Populartajo

If we have 4 scum, which still sounds like a plausible amount to me for a 19 player game, we are now in MyLo

My gut says Tajo, but at this point in the game the scum can quickvote and lynch, so I'm not voting yet

Sironi cleared himself with the town PM. Zazier cleared hersel the same way.

That leaves:

Lamont_Cranston
zwetschenwasser
Pyromaniac
Populartajo

There is no way I'm voting for Pyro. That leaves

Tajo

or

Zwet

. I think we need to ISO these folks and figure out what is going on with them.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3608 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 3:50 am

My gut says they are both scum.

populartajo · Post Post #3609 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:11 am

Hey Lammont, you should also check who got cleared by the town PM.

For scum, Im leaning now zwet or Pyro right now for that jester speculation from yesterday.

Lammont, why are you not going to vote for Pyro?

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3610 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:14 am

populartajo wrote:Hey Lammont, you should also check who got cleared by the town PM.
I have checked in great detail.

Tajo wrote:Lammont, why are you not going to vote for Pyro?

Because I have gotten town vibes from him all game.

Ftr, can we lynch Zwet now?

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3611 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:15 am

populartajo wrote:Hey Lammont, you should also check who got cleared by the town PM.

I have checked in great detail.

Tajo wrote:Lammont, why are you not going to vote for Pyro?

Because I have gotten town vibes from him all game.

@Tajo:

Ftr, can we lynch Zwet now?

Amished · Post Post #3612 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:17 am

I was around, was trying to mind-game the killing faction into just not targeting Sajin last night without having to protect him. I tried on a couple occasions to post at the end of yesterday, but there kept being memory errors. I didn't disagree with the L-K lynch as I thought he was scummy in my catch up read.

@Lamont: Why is there no way you're voting for Pyro?

I also agree that sironi and zaz are both cleared for the innocent role PM.

@Dram: If you think that there's 4 scum, would you be comfortable with thinking that LC, Zwet, Tajo and Pyro are all scum together (pending reread to look for possible connections)?

Amished · Post Post #3613 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:18 am

EBWOP: crossposting for the win.

@Lamont: So, you believe that there's only 2 scum in the game as no matter what I'd ask you you'd say you're not scum (leaving zwet and tajo only)?

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3614 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:21 am

Well based on the above post I am saying that there is only 3 scum and they MUST be:

zwetschenwasser
Pyromaniac
Populartajo

We just need to figure out which one we want to go first and we have this game locked.

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3615 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:22 am

So I admit I was wrong about Pyro. I am wrong alot is seems...

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3616 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:22 am

To get this ball rolling:

Vote Pyro

populartajo · Post Post #3617 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:25 am

Lammont, I just found something you might think its interesting.

This was Dev's vanilla claim. Post 2233.

Devestation wrote:The general gist of it is "your innocent, you really shouldnt be here but you are, get rid of the evil, you have a vote and your brains".

My reaction to his vanilla claim is :

populartajo wrote:
Unvote

Maybe Dev isnt the best lynch today.

And yes, it should be obvious by now why I unvoted Dev, right?

Your reaction is what Id call interesting.

Lamont_Cranston wrote:
populartajo wrote:
Unvote

Maybe Dev isnt the best lynch today.
Wait a minute... You're buying a vanillager claim??

So why didnt you buy his vanilla claim?

And why is Zazie and Siro cleared but not me, did you really check in great detail?

Also, can you point me to what exactly makes you think Pyro is prob town?

Lamont_Cranston · Post Post #3618 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:27 am

Tajo its over. You, Pyro and Zwet are scum.

Scum will unvote townies so what. That doesn't clear you.

I did alot of research much later than the post you quoted of me. Of course Vanillager claims are suspect, that's obvious.

Face it all 3 of you are done.

populartajo · Post Post #3619 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:31 am

Lamont_Cranston wrote:Tajo its over. You, Pyro and Zwet are scum.

Scum will unvote townies so what. That doesn't clear you.

I did alot of research much later than the post you quoted of me. Of course Vanillager claims are suspect, that's obvious.

Face it all 3 of you are done.

LOLWTF, Lammont?

Point me exactly of why you think Zazie and Siro were cleared using the vanilla PM. And tell me why dodesnt your logic apply to me?

Also tell me why did you change your mind so radically when me and Amished asked for why you thought Pyro was town?

What made you change your mind? What made you think Pyro was town at first?

Amished · Post Post #3620 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:32 am

*watching and waiting for more reactions*

dramonic · Post Post #3621 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:36 am

Amished, how many protections do you have and what kind of ridiculous mindstate is it to not protect our most essential player 0_o

Still, I'm going to

Vote: Zwet

populartajo · Post Post #3622 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:45 am

dramonic wrote:Amished, how many protections do you have and what kind of ridiculous mindstate is it to not protect our most essential player 0_o

Are you crazy? Amished SHOULDNT claim how many protections does he have. I agree he not protecting Setael is sad but its done so we cant do anything about it.

Dram, what do you think of Lammont?

dramonic · Post Post #3623 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 4:58 am

I'm very uncertain about his alignment, although I'm more interested in a Zwet lynch. But we must be careful, for all we know scum might have a copy of the VT role PM.

Amished · Post Post #3624 (ISO) » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:03 am

Why is it that much of a stretch to believe that there's no way else that we'll be able to find to start a fire if need be? Hell, if I'm still alive at the end game and there's a fire in the fireplace (there was one in the game, who knows, we can't exactly explore the "manor") I'll spread the fire from the fireplace to the house. I'd still win. And who knows, maybe that's what's "fated" and it's what I should do anyways. I don't believe that one item will prevent us from all out winning.

Tajo's reaction to Lamont seeing logic seems scummy and I'd definitely be ready to vote for him. Zwet I can never get a read on, so that's a calculated risk but not overly so for me. I need to reread pyro/lamont to see if one or both are scum (and from my position D1, I'm already distrusting of Lamont.)