/in-vitational 3: Brass & Shrapnel. Over. before 831

[curiouskarmadog]

going to be gone this weekend, so dont get crazy in this thread...getting behind on games suck.

dont like peer pressure CDB...beside the ML vote is too easy.

speaking of easy

vote Kublai Khan

because he is not here and can not defend himself.

[curiouskarmadog]

yay

[curiouskarmadog]

I'm voting CKD because he refused to vote MacavityLock with me, not because of his vote for you. I found his lack of camaraderie disappointing.

Fair enough, coy boy.

unvote
Vote: hasdgfas

I voted CKD because his entire post was scummy. He started by basically telling us to post as little as possible so he could be sure to catch up. Anti-town.

Then, hypocrisy. Doesn't like CKD's vote because it's "too easy" yet he votes for an easy target himself.

lol,

unvote, vote Hasdgfas

for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it.

[curiouskarmadog]

I'm voting CKD because he refused to vote MacavityLock with me, not because of his vote for you. I found his lack of camaraderie disappointing.

Fair enough, coy boy.

unvote
Vote: hasdgfas

I voted CKD because his entire post was scummy. He started by basically telling us to post as little as possible so he could be sure to catch up. Anti-town.

Then, hypocrisy. Doesn't like CKD's vote because it's "too easy" yet he votes for an easy target himself.

lol,

unvote, vote Hasdgfas

for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it.

This post was scummy. You're on thin ice.

so just for the record...was this scummier than my "not voting this person because it is too easy, so i will vote someone who is not here" post or less?

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote, vote Hasdgfas

for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it.

I hate the RVS. I will make a serious vote in the second post if I see a little thing I can jump on to get real discussion started.

fair enough.

did you really fail to see the humor in the post?

[curiouskarmadog]

Hasdgfas confirmed that he was indeed taking a joke vote seriously.

I find that so-called "joke votes" are a great place to look for scum, because it's where they think they're safe. Why is this different from any other time someone takes what's meant to be a "joke vote" seriously? Are all of them vote-worthy? If not, why is mine?

unvote

looks like he is actually trying to get conversation started. Has, do you usually attack obvious joke votes during RVS, or is this a change in play style..if so why?

[curiouskarmadog]

I get it..you are wrong....or maybe you are right and I want to (subconsciously )vote KK for other non alignment reasons. Whatever the case, I dont know your alignment so I dont know if this is fluff or not. maybe discuss after game. at least it got people talking.

[curiouskarmadog]

lol,

unvote, vote Hasdgfas

for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it.

Feels like a scummy attempt to return to RVS.

unvote, vote curiouskarmadog

unvote, vote Budja

really?!? what about my vote on Has was returning to the RVS? What about my vote was random?

[curiouskarmadog]

Ok, maybe it is more of a bad-reason vote than a random vote, It looks like the kind of reasoning that is used for semi-random votes.

explain HOW my previous vote has ANYTHING to do with being semi-random...

my first vote was obviously jokey and random...but nothing about my second vote was random.

but lets say, for shits and giggles...it was. you are voting me because I want to return to the RVS? How is that scummy? How do you think as scum returning to RVS is helpful for scum?

your vote crap, and your reasoning to bandwagon is bogus.

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but lets say, for shits and giggles...it was. you are voting me because I want to return to the RVS? How is that scummy? How do you think as scum returning to RVS is helpful for scum?

If you're trying to return to the RVS after some semi-serious to serious discussion started, then it really looks like you're trying to squash that discussion because you don't like the direction it's headed.

Budja's reasoning is sound, but I think his read is off.

not once in any game as scum or town, have I seen anyone try to return to the RVS stage? What about Bud reasoning do you think is sound..what is off?

==
more answers please.

Ok, maybe it is more of a bad-reason vote than a random vote, It looks like the kind of reasoning that is used for semi-random votes.

explain HOW my previous vote has ANYTHING to do with being semi-random...

[curiouskarmadog]

just making sure this doesnt get lost in the shuffle.

==
more answers please.

Ok, maybe it is more of a bad-reason vote than a random vote, It looks like the kind of reasoning that is used for semi-random votes.

explain HOW my previous vote has ANYTHING to do with being semi-random...

[curiouskarmadog]

@CKD, voting for someone for pushing out of the random stage could have an effect of dampening communication and is generally bad reasoning. I dislike that.

confirm vote Budja

not only are you misrepresenting what I did, you are now back tracking.

more answers please.

Ok, maybe it is more of a bad-reason vote than a random vote, It looks like the kind of reasoning that is used for semi-random votes.

explain HOW my previous vote has ANYTHING to do with being semi-random...

Feels like a scummy attempt to return to RVS.

unvote, vote curiouskarmadog

CKD's attack/vote on you is weak anyway and feels quite a lot like a random vote.

you clearly are voting me because you thought was was trying to return back to RVS. stating you thought my vote was semi random.

it was not. Not being able to explain why my vote was "semi random" you now are giving motivation behind my vote that didnt exist. I voted Has because I thought his vote was scummy. It had nothing at all to do with the RVS or wanting to return back to it.

for the record, here is my vote post.

I'm voting CKD because he refused to vote MacavityLock with me, not because of his vote for you. I found his lack of camaraderie disappointing.

Fair enough, coy boy.

unvote
Vote: hasdgfas

I voted CKD because his entire post was scummy. He started by basically telling us to post as little as possible so he could be sure to catch up. Anti-town.

Then, hypocrisy. Doesn't like CKD's vote because it's "too easy" yet he votes for an easy target himself.

lol,

unvote, vote Hasdgfas

for taking a first random/irony joke vote trying to run with it.

I removed my random vote to place this real one. How is that wanting to return to the RVS or random. caught you scum bag.

[curiouskarmadog]

Ok, am disliking currently Budja and Kublai Khan. Budja as I dislike his case on ckd, and Kublai Khan because he seems to be getting overly emotional over attacks on him. CKD has also hit my scumdar early on but not enough to even consider at this early stage.

vote Kublai Khan

wins it over budja.

what did I do to hit your scumdar?

What about Bud's case on me do you not like?

Are you saying emotional = Scummy?

There is nothing about this post that I like.

[curiouskarmadog]

it doesnt...

[curiouskarmadog]

I am going to be traveling (my work is sending me on detail for the month away from home)...probably no posting then....however, I will be bored out of my mind for the next month...so frequency of posting will increase after this weekend..

posting this is all games.//

[curiouskarmadog]

CDB, why still the random vote?

[curiouskarmadog]

if we lynch Budja....I will unvote and hammer

[curiouskarmadog]

I pre-volunteer to hammer budja

[curiouskarmadog]

Quag is right, the "case" was weak at best...however that early into a game, no case is strong. what should be more bothersome is that has's vote is still on me.

budja is a better lynch today by far.

[curiouskarmadog]

LYNCH BUDJA...he is right there...now he is lurking out the rest of that day...

come on!

[curiouskarmadog]

can we kill scum now?

vote Budja

[curiouskarmadog]

why would town?

also, maybe he did it just look like he didnt care. the mod said deadline was at 6pm, his vote came in at 8pm

[curiouskarmadog]

what I am saying is he is scum that didnt forget...he did it deliberately.

but for now I will

unvote.

Has, why is it you were going to vote for Has?

[curiouskarmadog]

I dont understand why you are not getting what I am saying.

he did it deliberately, knowing that his vote would not count. the deadline clearly stated 6pm, he voted at 8pm.

it just so happened the mod counted the vote, but Budja did know that he would when voting.

at any rate, I see your point (thus the unvote)..going to reread, but still think Budja is scummy.

[curiouskarmadog]

lol, you about Bud..sry

[curiouskarmadog]

I'm reluctant to poke around with the timing of the deadline seeing as the mod said it hit 12 hours late and included Budja in the vote count.

it doesnt matter what the mod did after the vote..what matters is the mod stated the deadline was 6pm..Bud voted at 8pm...usually when a mod sets a deadline..that deadline doesnt change.

[curiouskarmadog]

you think that is the only reason I think he is scummy?

[curiouskarmadog]

Mole, want make you think that Bud's vote was random? Why didnt you say I was OTT yesterday?

[curiouskarmadog]

CKD's reaction to Budja's RVS vote

same question...what makes you think his vote on me was random?

also, there is only 8 pages in this game..how did you miss it?

[curiouskarmadog]

going to be gone this weekend....posting agian on Monday..

[curiouskarmadog]

Mole,

what was the difference between your case and KK's case of Quag?

[curiouskarmadog]

if we are looking for a wagon, I think there are better people to do it on. WE got Poro and CDB who are lurking, though it should be noted that they are lurking across the board. But I answer so? If they are scum, the only case that could be made against them right now with their lack of post would be consider weak...

ML is suspect with his voting hoping around and request for a wagon.

this being said, mole, you knew it was a bad case when pushing it? In your words what was bad about it?

[curiouskarmadog]

meh, really I am just waiting for Poro and CDB to provide content...

or to be replace.

leaving for the weekend.

[curiouskarmadog]

meh,

Case is not abandoned.....I still feel like you were scummy day 1...but dont know if Budscum would vote at the end of yesterday unless he knew the role....if there had been a scum flip yesterday...yeah...I would be on you...but KK is right, it is hard to believe that you would have jumped on that wagon...that being said..it WAS after the deadline has closed, but meh....

I also dont see Budscum, asking me about my case on Bud.....I think budscum, would have just let that heat die....to me, seems like someone trying to get conversation started....

so you are in the neutral catagory....but everyone is in the neutral catagory really....back in town, so I will reread, but game seems to be slow...everyone is waiting...for something to happen.....

[curiouskarmadog]

not for a bomb claim, dont think I understand why anyone would want to do that.

going to be busy the next couple of days.

[curiouskarmadog]

mole, have you tried to use your ability?

[curiouskarmadog]

why?

[curiouskarmadog]

vote KK

, two townie lycnhes are two too many.

[curiouskarmadog]

it doesnt...but "it's not like I have a great amount of material to work with"

you have been on two townie lynches.

also Poro has been neglecting everything he has his thumbs in...including hid modded game.

[curiouskarmadog]

his=hid

[curiouskarmadog]

I will be interested to see what happens when everyone posts...

I think KK is probably scum, normally I would say it is telling that a scum pair has not showed up to hammer him,, but we got two lurkers just floating around.

[curiouskarmadog]

Ok, I'm back now.

Macavity is right, this is essentially LyLo. +town for bringing it up. Why not wait for the scum-kill to narrow down our options?

I suggest no vigs use their action, at least not yet.

CKD, your case is weaker than mole's .

and mole was what, what is your point??

your thoughts on KK's vote?

[curiouskarmadog]

not planning on unvoting....at least not until the two lurkers post...

am I sure of my "case"? No, but as KK said, not much to go on....going with my gut and my gut tends to be right...at least 60%+ of the time (I track the lynches I am on).

[curiouskarmadog]

am I sure of my "case"? No, but as KK said, not much to go on....going with my gut and my gut tends to be right...at least 60%+ of the time (I track the lynches I am on).

Well, the gut connects to the ass which does sound like the place you pulled that statistic from. So it could be legit.

you sure about that buddy?

the actual number is 55.15% correct with my lynches as town (so I guess I was wrong saying 60).

quick check to my wiki, will demostrate that I follow it pretty closely....but why bother check that, when it is easier for you to say I pulled it out of my ass right?

[curiouskarmadog]

well, I have nothing to go on except for the fact that you have been on two townie lynches.

what do you have to go on?

also, everyone has posted...and there was no mad rush to quick lynch you...SO...either you or I are scum..and clearly we are the two lynch canidates today....

[curiouskarmadog]

oh, there is only 9 players here...for some reason I thought there were 12....(3 name scum team)..with 9 players the scum team is probably 2...so a quick lynch hasnt happened.

Bud, quit role fishing

[curiouskarmadog]

"hasnt happened" = will not happen with the current situation if KK is town.

phone rang while typing.

[curiouskarmadog]

unless we are both town and you are scum, like my inital gut read.

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I think you are scum...havent I implied that since day 1?

no, my point (kk and I) are the lynches today was flawed....I thought we had a scum team of 3...not 2...so the point is invalid....keep up.

[curiouskarmadog]

lol

[curiouskarmadog]

where is wishy washy?

how is your case any better than mine?

hmmm, guess I understand why KK jumped to your defense.

[curiouskarmadog]

your thoughts on KK for the record?

[curiouskarmadog]

so you see no problem with him being on 2 townie lynches?

[curiouskarmadog]

KK, what are you thoughts about Budja's plan to eliminate both of us today?...just curious?

also, can you jump on my wagon later instead of earlier please. I dont care if you jump on it, I just want you to be last on it.

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wait, I endorsed what?

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote....

unless someone else claims that kill.

you can bet your ass we are at Lylo now.

KK, that is a lot of townie blood on your hands.

[curiouskarmadog]

so the scum team is 2 of the following

CDB, ML, or Bud.

[curiouskarmadog]

well, your poor decision just outed yourself, but at the same time saved you another day...most likely with the current activity level you would have hung. So why did you choose Poro over me? that being said, I am n

Who do you think the scum pair are?

you still doubt Bud?

that means from your pov you think the scum pair is 2 of (me, ML, or CDB), correct?

[curiouskarmadog]

oh wait....i thought they had night kills in this game..hang on.

[curiouskarmadog]

jesus, I am not paying attention....nightless game.

revote KK

.

dammit, my unvote put me in the position to be lynched today too (all things remaning constant)...

well fuck.

[curiouskarmadog]

that was a quick hammer and a stance reverse.

KK if you are town, and Bud is scum...I AM NEVER GOING TO FUCKING DOUBT MY GUT AGAIN! I AM NOT GOING TO BE TALKED OUT OF MY GUT OR I WILL DIE BEFORE I GO AGAINST MY GUT!

[curiouskarmadog]

I am not so sure....

Why would KK admit to that kill? he didnt have to admit to it.

[curiouskarmadog]

Budja, unless you can give a good reason not to, please kill CDB during this morning period.

what happens if CDB is town?

[curiouskarmadog]

wait...we are at 4 people...if Budja is town...and kills CDB who is town...and you (ML) are scum....town loses...

now, I am not 100% on anyone right now, so I dont want to make a rash move here...KK would have no problem killing himself to insure a win and to give his partner town creds....so yesterday could have been a gambit.

thinking.

[curiouskarmadog]

ML, could have have voted me yesterday...if you are scum...it was a good play

Bud..kill CDB

[curiouskarmadog]

did you send the kill?

[curiouskarmadog]

did you send the kill BEFORE the mods last post?

[curiouskarmadog]

well looks like we are waiting till then.

[curiouskarmadog]

if we are dealing with 2 scum total....CDB wasnt doced....Bud could have been RBed, but it had to be CDB hasnt been around..so that would mean that Mac did it...which makes absolutely no sense.

I think I should have gone with my gut to begin with..

vote bud

[curiouskarmadog]

well then,

unvote, vote : No Lynch

[curiouskarmadog]

well, Bud says that he submitted a kill...soooooo, that would the successful protection..

I dont see what the issue is.

[curiouskarmadog]

so we are just waiting on the mod now?

[curiouskarmadog]

Bud submit the kill

[curiouskarmadog]

bumpiples

[curiouskarmadog]

I dont think CDB is doing anything..is he posting anywhere?

[curiouskarmadog]

vote bud

[curiouskarmadog]

Maybe he didn't realise the implications. But it was an odd move.
I guess it could be a gambit to give Macavity the win, but that feels unlikely.

Ok, I guess I'll reveal the main reason behind my suspicions.
I am a vig.
I tried to kill CDB yesterday immediately after Porochaz's death (I was sure one of them was prob scum and it was LyLo) but failed.
I did kill hascow (solely on gut) so I am not a blank shot.
So I was either roleblocked or CDB was doc-protected.

I am guessing that doc-protected is more likely so I am voting CDB.

(and elimination does suggest CDB as scum as well as I mentioned before).

Yeah, I am risking the scum-kill here but its probably worth it.
I don't think anyone else should claim. I'm not a great scum-kill and I don't want them to narrow down their options without risk.

[curiouskarmadog]

how do you know you killed has?

[curiouskarmadog]

yeah, I guess mac is town.

and I think I know why he wants me to claim.

I am a vig.

Day 1, I tried to kill Bud.
Day 2, I tried to kill KK

I didnt even bother sending a kill today...I assume that I am blank....

guess I could try.

[curiouskarmadog]

gut says Bud

I would say let me hear your case, but there really isnt anything going on in a 16 page game.

[curiouskarmadog]

I already did, mod already confirmed to receive it

[curiouskarmadog]

bump

[curiouskarmadog]

checking in...going to think about it...my gut really is saying Bud...everytime i go against it...I lose...

unvote

for now.

[curiouskarmadog]

so basically a lurker or someone I got a gut vibe off of.

dammit....I really dont know..

will make a decision tomorrow

[curiouskarmadog]

ok,

vote poro

[curiouskarmadog]

well, that was the hammer...so you can tell if you are not.

[curiouskarmadog]

woo hoo, guess i am glad that I was a blank vig..Bud would have been dead day 1.

also, due to this and another game...I will starting a new campaign to lynch lurkers early.

[curiouskarmadog]

it was fine, thanks Korts...