MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (fl's subgame): Game Over

[SpyreX]

.... Huh

Awesome. I wont mention that what shouldn't be mentioned anymore.

Vote: Flava Flave

[forbiddanlight]

SpyreX, I wouldn't be so non chalant. You didn't get blue lightning this time, but you ARE on thin ice. I would shy away from even touching role PM related information if I were you.

SocioPath, you also are on thin ice

[Tarhalindur]

.... Huh

Awesome. I wont mention that what shouldn't be mentioned anymore.

Vote: Flava Flave

SpyreX: I'd be EXTREMELY carefully about posting like this if I were you. Insubordination (Rule 0 violation) is modkillable/replaceable, and this is very nearly a violation of that rule. And I was already considering blacklisting you for your 269 and 275 here. - Tar

[Quagmire]

Nn...? What the hell just happened? I'm lost.

[Quagmire]

also: Mods understand you would be making this an unfair advantage if I didn't get a recap of what happened. It gives other peopel information I won't have.

It's all in red. Reread the past two pages mostly.

[SpyreX]

No I was being serious.

I wont mention what shouldn't be mentioned anymore. I apologize for it.

The ...huh was at Yos being a survivor.

[Quagmire]

I still don't exactly understand. Were all those people warned/modkilled because they were discussing the structure of their role PM? Over whether a Kamigawa townie or regular townie meant something? Couldn't the mod just clarify it?

Also why the hell was Yosarian modkilled but the other people weren't? That seems stupid.

Yos' case was more overtly trying to use the PM in a way to apparently get an advantage and "confirm" sociopath. SpyreX and SocioPath were shy of this point.

I'll direct you to rule 0 if you insist on discussing it, and encourage you to approach me by PM with any serious qualms you have with my decision.

[Mufasa]

ya quagmire just role with the flow and lynch sociopath haha

On a serious note we keep our numbers no matter what games we go to....

[SocioPath]

After this game is over I'd like to discuss the previous few pages more.

Moving on...

Back to SocioPath though for a moment...

I would reeeeeeeally like to see what you would do if you were to switch games. Your whole world would turn upside down. You would be lynched in a second, and then lose your game, because everyone in other games should act like you too, right? You die, they fulfill their win conditions...and so forth. Really, it seems like you are only pushing debates for your own selfish reasons...when you don't actually know how the win conditions are played out.

Those selfish reasons might be SK in nature. Maybe you think that if I am scum...that lynching me will put you in the clear. It wouldn't surprise me at all if you turned up being another elder dragon.

One thing I notice that scum always always tends to do when they're in danger of being lynched is start to panic and overreact whenever there's a point made against them. This is what SocioPath is doing, except there's not even much pressure on him right now -- despite being at L-2 -- because nobody really buys the case or has spelled out their reasons for voting for him yet (at least as far as I've seen). There was still fruitiful discussion going on AND he had the distraction of a new player entering the game so he could have continually played it cool.

I think SocioPath looked at his L-2 number and started to accuse everyone in a loose-cannon kind of way in order to keep the spotlight off of him. He might bring up a couple of good cases here or there, but I think I can see through the transparency.

I certainly don't like this post at all. Approximately everything about it is false.

Accusing everyone to keep the spotlight off me? What? What you quoted was refering to Spy, whom, if you read the game at all, I've BEEN ATTACKING.
And yes, I've definitely kept the spotlight off me.

Then furthermore, panicked because I was worried about being lynched at that point? Oh yes, I was totally worried that a scum-laden wagon was going to lynch me. Even you said there wasn't much pressure.

I actually enjoyed the wagon on me, and said as much. Wagons get the town info, whether its mine or anyone else's.

I guess I was feigning confidence while at the same time panicking; and throwing accusations at everyone, despite focusing on SpyreX and HIS communications with those around him.

He might bring up a couple of good cases here or there, but I think I can see through the transparency.

You caught me!
How dare I made valid cases and examples when its obvious you can see through me and my shenanigans, you masterful player, you.

Here is some more flailing for you with my attacking everyone:

Vote: Quagmire

[Mufasa]

unvote vote: quagmire

Accusing Sociopath and not putting a vote on him.

[Quagmire]

Accusing everyone to keep the spotlight off me? What? What you quoted was refering to Spy, whom, if you read the game at all, I've BEEN ATTACKING.
And yes, I've definitely kept the spotlight off me.

keyword: attempt

Then furthermore, panicked because I was worried about being lynched at that point? Oh yes, I was totally worried that a scum-laden wagon was going to lynch me. Even you said there wasn't much pressure.

I actually enjoyed the wagon on me, and said as much. Wagons get the town info, whether its mine or anyone else's.

I guess I was feigning confidence while at the same time panicking; and throwing accusations at everyone, despite focusing on SpyreX and HIS communications with those around him.

This doesn't make sense and doesn't refute any of my points.

You caught me!
How dare I made valid cases and examples when its obvious you can see through me and my shenanigans, you masterful player, you.

Here is some more flailing for you with my attacking everyone:

Vote: Quagmire

a) Your case isn't valid at all, actually. It's desperate and scummy.
b) OMGUS vote

[Mufasa]

@ quagmire you continue to say he is scummy but no vote

[forbiddanlight]

"The clashing warriors turned to face O-Kagachi, the greatest kami, and their sigh of awe was their last breath." - Flavor text, Final Judgement

Regarding Deadline review:

I have altered the deal. Pray that I don't alter it again.

I mean, you all pass review...barely.

The Sixth Vote Count (aka the "Exile all creatures." Vote Count)

5) Budja (0)
25) SpyreX (0)
27) Zazie (0)
28) populartajo (0)
31) Mufasa (0)
32) Quagmire (2): SocioPath, Mufasa
33) Porkens (0)
34) Flava Flave (2): Porkens, SpyreX
35) SocioPath (0)
36) jammer (0)

Not Voting (6): jammer, populartajo, Zazie, Budja, Flava Flave, Quagmire,

Votes required to lynch:

6

Current Deadline:

August 28, 2009 at ~1:00 P.M. EDT (GMT -5)

Second Mod Deadline Review:

August 21, 2009 at ~1:00 P.M. (GMT -5)

[Mufasa]

FL you didnt put the 2 between the parentheses

I must have inherited Tar vote count itis.

[Budja]

Ok, I'm back.

The Allience:
SpyreX is not scum for suggesting it. It looks far too open and attention-grabbing to be scummy.

SocioPath, looks more VI than scummy to me.
@Quag point, his behaviour looks pretty consitant and chaotic in isolation.

Flava is very inactive and his analysis upon been pressured lacks substance. scummy.

Dislike recent quagmire wagon. No good points whatsoever. Dislike Mufasa for following here.

vote Mufasa

, for that and been a massive active lurker.

[Quagmire]

@ quagmire you continue to say he is scummy but no vote

uh, yeah

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 30#1810930

[Mufasa]

whoops missed that.

unvote vote: SocioPath

[jammer]

I dont get something. Why is like accepted that DDD is telling the truth? I can buy that from benmage who is being like brutally honest, but Jammer (76),

why dont you think that DDD could be scum? Porkens, same question.

I could barely see it as a scumgambit. Lynching and vigging would be good options to get rid off them. Why do you see benmage apart from DDD?

I guess I was feigning confidence while at the same time panicking; and throwing accusations at everyone, despite focusing on SpyreX and HIS communications with those around him.

Does town panic and throw accusions at everyone just in a attempt to lose votes?
He is a claimed (useless) vanilla towny.

Vote: SocioPath

I am surprised with yos2 being a survivor, I wouldn't suspect a survivor catching that much attention. I'm surprised at that.

With the rule 1a violations, I find the punishment harsh. Atleast when I get close to do anything with role-PM's, I know to talk with the mod first. :S



@Mufasa, what do you think of Flava Flave?

[Budja]

Why do you see benmage apart from DDD?

Don't you mean "did". Are you reading here?

[jammer]

Why do you see benmage apart from DDD?

Don't you mean "did". Are you reading here?

Thanks for the correction, yes I read.

[Flava Flave]

... Willing to lynch a player that hasn't even posted in this game yet but Zazie is AOK?

Misrep. Budja was scummy in another subgame, not scummy for lurking.

Vote Budja

by the way.

[jammer]

Flava Flave, can you briefly explain what scummy actions Budja did in that subgame?

[populartajo]

Sorry guys V/LA until the 18th. City holidays.

Noted

[Mufasa]

@Mufasa, what do you think of Flava Flave?

He's scummy also but my first thought is sociopath cause that whole issue about allignment is iffy

[Budja]

@Flava, care to actually explain. Why am I scummy?