Newbie 818 (Game Over)

[adamrights]

What makes Raskol an interesting pick is that he voted Kirb when coming back after the stronger case was probably against me...maybe he figured I'd be likely to be lynched day two and by taking out Kirb the scum might cause two mislynches.

I think we need to buckle down and make a choice. I'm going to stick with Pom for now; I hope this turns out right.

[Kirbyoshi]

adam: Have you voted for Pom yet?

[adamrights]

I thought I had but I didn't. So

Vote Pom

-- even though I just drank some...

[MiteyMouse]

I'm much less suspicious of Kirby now, although I think if I die definitly consider him -- especially if Pom was to come back innocent. What we can bet on is that at least 1 scum is on my wagon.

Wait a minute...how could Pom come back innocent if you die? Aren't you the Cop?

[adamrights]

@MM: From lynching Pom. Once the lynch occurs we can't talk and I might die over the night -- this is my advice.

[Kirbyoshi]

@adam: Why would you suspect me if Pom flips town? I suggested Exalt before I suggested Pom.

[Pomegranate]

If we don't get the RB, you can assume I'll be blocked anyway tonight...

If you are a cop then there is only a 50% chance that there is a roleblocker:

-1 Mafia Goon, 1 Mafia Roleblocker, 1 Sane Cop, 1 Doctor, 5 Townies.
-2 Mafia Goons, 1 Sane Cop, 6 Townies.

So we shouldn't assume that. But it is likely that the mafia will kill you, considering your role.

[adamrights]

@Kirb I wouldn't worry TOO Much about Day two yet -- lots of variables, and also we need to somewhat mask our plans -- if we're for the town we'll try the best move for the town, hopefully...

[Pomegranate]

Where is Raskol...

[hohum]

Official Vote Count:

Pomegranate(3): Youdontknow, Kirbyoshi, adamrights

Kirbyoshi(2):, MiteyMouse, Raskol
adamrights(1): Exalt
Raskol(1): katy

Not Voting(2): Pomegranate, Pablo Molinero

I posted the last vote count late, so just over 36 hours from this point until deadline, which is 3AM saturday morning eastern time

[Pomegranate]

I'm not going to be able to get on Mafia from about Friday, 7:00 PM eastern time until after the deadline, so I must place my vote before then. Additionally, if you will want me too claim, I must have time to do it before then.

[adamrights]

What's your claim Pom?

[MiteyMouse]

Ok...the newly found trust between Adam and Kirby is concerning me terribly!

[Exalt]

UNVOTE

Just read adam's claim, no CC's I'm assuming? Lemme catch up

[Exalt]

@ Everyone: One more time... please give me your scum list if possible.

Who are your top 2 and why? That's all I want... we don't need possible NK crap going on here... just top 2 scum and why.

Maybe I'm just grasping at straws here, but maybe he said this to make sure no one suspected him?

Seriously? You are flip flopping quite a bit now kirby... why is that?

[Exalt]

Adam: Why pom or me? I don't think you ever said any suspicion of me earlier in the game... so I'm wondering why I am scum king #1 atm simply because I was wrong about my gut feeling...

I mean you even said yourself you played bad... and you looked scummy as fuck to me. Please explain why I am top 2 now

[Exalt]

@adam: Why would you suspect me if Pom flips town? I suggested Exalt before I suggested Pom.

why did you suggest ME when just one day ago you had me as town?

Flip flopping much?

[Exalt]

Ok...the newly found trust between Adam and Kirby is concerning me terribly!

me too... kirby and adam both were gunning for each other, and now that adam claims cop kirby is his best friend... and all of a sudden I become mafia

Great deduction skills you people have.... sigh. Newbie games blah

[adamrights]

@Exalt: You had been pretty quite and off the radar. I know I've been scummy as hell too, so it's hard to decide.

I think we should go with Pom. If there is no RB then I am dead tonight. If Pom = the RB, we're in a great position as the doc can keep me alive and I can investigate, otherwise I'll be stuck tonight and we can start scum-hunting tomorrow.

[Raskol]

Wow, nice to wake up to so much new activity. Hopefully you guys will say something while I'm awake this time.

-I still like the case against Kirbyoshi. Out of all the things he's done, including the ones I listed and that have been discussed, can anyone give me an actual reason not to think they make him our most likely scum?

-Adam especially, can you walk me through the

reasoning

that led you to become less suspicious of Kirbyoshi?

-

Anyone

, can you tell me what makes Pomegranate more suspicious than

everyone

else? Off the top of my head, I remember that she's on adam's BW and she's "made short posts".

Please

tell me I missed something, because that's honestly

not

a good reason.

I honestly feel like I went to sleep and woke up in crazyland. I'm going to be going and doing an isoread on a few people, but I want some current feedback.

[Kirbyoshi]

Sorry about the flip-flopping Exalt, it's just that adam's claim just totally turned my strategy/scumlist upside-down, and I was trying to get some advice from adam. Like I said, I was grasping at straws, so I needed some guidance. No buddying up intended. Although, how would buddying up to him and telling him it's ok to investigate you be a scummy thing? If I were scum, I would try to get him to investigate someone else, not open myself up to it.

[Raskol]

If you're scum, and if there's a roleblocker, you would know that you could roleblock him and the investigation would be useless, giving you town points for the invitation without any risk to yourself.

And given the contents of your role "speculation", I'd say it's a pretty reasonable assumption that if you are scum, then there is a roleblocker.

So yeah, cross that one out.

[Raskol]

Oh btw...

You think you could summarize the case you had on adamrights at the time of my entry into the game now for me?

And the case on Pomegranate now? Or will you continute to ignore...?

[Kirbyoshi]

Basically, my case on adam was that he hadn't been actively scumhunting until he was pressured into it. He was joking around alot, and not contributing alot to the conversation, and I misread it as a scumtell.

I guess my case on Pom could also be worded like that, but without the joking. Also, the vets must see something about her that I don't, so to some extent I'm taking their word for it. I know that might not be a wise thing to do, but I'm still a n00b, so any time someone says "that's scummy," and I'm pretty sure they're town, I sorta piggyback onto their argument.

[Raskol]

Whose word, exactly, are you taking on this?