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Post Post #650 (ISO) » Wed Aug 12, 2009 3:55 pm

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The letter that you wrote me made me stop and wonder why
But I guess you felt like you had to set things right
Just remember this, my girl, when you look up in the sky
You can see the stars and still not see the light (that's right)


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Post Post #651 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:24 am

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X wrote:
tubby216 wrote:so if hero is scum does that make scum, or vica verca?
This is incomprehensive
what i am asking is if I flipp scum does that mean hero is scum, or if hero flips scum does that make me scum
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Post Post #652 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:26 am

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BTW no fear in hammering x i would gladly do it if that what the consensus wants.
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Post Post #653 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 2:19 am

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Hero764 Post 628 wrote:Sotty: If you got no result with Juls why were you attacking her?
Because I still thought she was likely scum who just didn't do the kill that night. I think it was clear that I suspected Juls from the end of day one, so being roleblocked like I was made me even more weary of Juls. However, when I got the result of her being at home on night two, I didn't quickly vote her, I wanted to see what else the day would bring. With her play though, I still thought she was scum.

Right now I just don't believe X is a supersaint. I think it was more likely a claim to try and starve off his lynch that has backfired. With cow claiming jail keeper and having that match up with my no result on night one I am tempted to believe him, however he could simply be a scum roleblocker. If I am wrong and X is a supersaint then I would rather have Hero hammer him.

Elvis needs to explain her post 643 though. How do you know there is three scum and how do you know X is a supersaint?
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Post Post #654 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:44 am

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I just think if we don't try to have someone who looks scummy hammer X, then we'll lose outright.
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Post Post #655 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:51 am

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tubby216 wrote:
X wrote:
tubby216 wrote:so if hero is scum does that make scum, or vica verca?
This is incomprehensive
what i am asking is if I flipp scum does that mean hero is scum, or if hero flips scum does that make me scum
Neither of these was what I had originally intended. I was saying that if Cow & EK are telling the truth, then you two are the scum. However, either of you flipping scum does not preclude Cow or EK from lying. So no, if you flip scum, Hero is not necessarily scum, and vice versa.
elvis_knits wrote:I just think if we don't try to have someone who looks scummy hammer X, then we'll lose outright.
Way to not explain your last statement and make an even more cryptic one.
Sotty7 wrote:Right now I just don't believe X is a supersaint. I think it was more likely a claim to try and starve off his lynch that has backfired. With cow claiming jail keeper and having that match up with my no result on night one I am tempted to believe him, however he could simply be a scum roleblocker. If I am wrong and X is a supersaint then I would rather have Hero hammer him.
See, this is the attitude that I'm seeing among the Town: I am scum because SuperSaint is a convenient scum claim. Why is it so unlikely that I'm telling the truth?
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Post Post #656 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 3:56 am

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The way I see it, cow has to be lying, because it's not me.
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Post Post #657 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 4:57 am

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Dearest EK,
VP Baltar wrote:That post made no sense EK. Why are you certain there are three scum? Why do you think X is supersaint if he's scum?
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Post Post #658 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 5:48 am

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elvis_knits wrote:The way I see it, cow has to be lying, because it's not me.
I really do think it's quite possible that there are only 2 scum, EK. Your insistence that there are 3 scum is making me question my town read on you. Just look at our claimed PR list. There's nothing there that is so powerful that we need 3 scum to balance it.
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Post Post #659 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:13 am

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Are you saying there aren't 3 scum?

vote: cow


And if we lynch the supersaint, you should hammer, cow.
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Post Post #660 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:33 am

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Why are you ignoring my questions, EK?
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Post Post #661 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:37 am

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I don't understand what you're asking.
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Post Post #662 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:39 am

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elvis_knits wrote:Are you saying there aren't 3 scum?

vote: cow


And if we lynch the supersaint, you should hammer, cow.
wow, talk about overreaction and misrepresentation.
No, I'm not saying there aren't 3 scum. I'm saying it's possible that there aren't, which is more than you're doing.
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Post Post #663 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 7:41 am

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elvis_knits wrote:Since there's three scum, which means that 3 of these four are scum:

X
Hero
tubby
cow

Since X is supersaint, we should have Hero hammer so that he takes Hero with him and gives us 2 for 1.
In the above statement you state with certainty that there are three scum. Why are you certain there are three instead of two?

In the above statement you state with certainty that X is actually a supersaint and that he is scum. Why do you say that considering that supersaint is a townaligned role?

I hope that is clear.
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Post Post #664 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:18 am

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elvis_knits wrote:Are you saying there aren't 3 scum?

vote: cow


And if we lynch the supersaint, you should hammer, cow.
*facepalm* You're the one saying there aren't 2 scum.
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Post Post #665 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:31 am

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Look, I don't think I'm going about this the right way, but I think that we may have a bigger problem then we think we do. My role pm says I die if I hide with mafia, but not what would happen if I hide with another group (werewolves, SK or cult).

Cow asked me to look at the role distribution -- well, let's look. There's a miller with no cop. Is that normal? I guess tracker could get miller results, but I don't even know how that would work, if a tracker tracks a miller, do they get the result that the miller went and visited the NK? I've never heard of that before.

Basically, we have a miller with no cop in the setup. Which happens, but should tip us off that there is bastardry afoot. Which got me thinking. Maybe the anti-town group is not mafia. Just as miller had no counterpart, my hider role may have no counterpart.

Truant was a strange NK the other night. If you look at his posts, the only weird thing he mentions is a cult. Then he dies. Coincidence? I'm not sure if there is a killing cult, or a mafia that knows there is a cult out there and thought truant was cult for mentioning it.

Combine everything and there is the very real possibility that there is a mixture of groups, wolves, cult, SK. Basically, I think there is more than one faction at work here and I was trying to make sure we got at least one type of scum, or one of each. And with two factions, I think there as to be more than two scum left. I was figuring three.
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Post Post #666 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:41 am

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We have a Miller now? Did I miss something? Otherwise I have no idea what you're talking about.
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Post Post #667 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:44 am

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Hero764 wrote:We have a Miller now? Did I miss something? Otherwise I have no idea what you're talking about.
you haven't read this game, have you?
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Post Post #668 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:46 am

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Sorry I was confused for a moment since I thought she was referring to the living players for some reason.

Anyways e_k that seems like a lot of assumptions to be making and being completely assured of a 3 person scum team from. You really think that's grounds enough to vote for someone?
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Post Post #669 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:58 am

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I was trying to test my theory and get reactions to judge if I was correct.
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Post Post #670 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 9:01 am

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And it's not all assumptions.

Fact is we have a miller in the setup with no claimed cop.

Fact is truant was a noob player who there was no reason to kill other than he talked about cults.
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Post Post #671 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:09 am

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i have never seen super saint in ms before, i have seen it alot on IRC with xyl bot.

so i feel pretty secure that x is not a super saint,

however ek is shortcircuting or something,(ek you seriously need a margarita and beach for two days)

either way i would be happy with either lynches

although cow thinks me scum i still got love for the cow and think cow=protown
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Post Post #672 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 11:37 am

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People who deny that a cult exists are usually cult, btw.
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Post Post #673 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 12:11 pm

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I've changed my mind. Tubby, I want you to hammer X.
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Post Post #674 (ISO) » Thu Aug 13, 2009 1:38 pm

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ok then thats fine vp i will do so
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