The Manor: Chzo Mafia (Game Over!)

[Lamont_Cranston]

Let's do a post analysis of Rock

1. Attacks Lamont with his reasons for voting being ridiculous.

2. Speculation about how the shotgun shell is apparently not a vig item. Of course it's to be used as a supository

3. Accuses Xtoxm of flooding the thread with item speculation without actually bringing an intelligent explanation to the shell (mind you, it's a pretty obvious item)

4. Plays victim

5. vigvote dev without ANY explanation

6.

Also, someone just have me prodded once all this vig nonsense is over with.

Nice way of not participating. He's not even V/LA, he's just running away. Useful way to avoid suspicion, when you don't say anything.

7. Use of fail logic to push more of his illusions on the town about lynching Lamont

8. Fails to understand basic logic when faced with it

9. Twists people's intentions to fit his needs.

10. Lurks hard.

11. L-K refusing to claim

12. L-K not bringing any town play after Rock's play

Yeah, he's scummy alright.

12 reasons to lynch Rock/L-K

I support and endorse the above product.

[Sajin]

I also support a LK lynch and I also support hearing from Amished before we lynch.

[Light-kun]

Light-kun, please summarize in a sentence or two why someone like Pyro should be lynched and not you. You can go on and on about your investigation plans, but why do you feel you are the right candidate to investigate? Also, do you have a roleclaim? Sorry if I've missed something...

I am refusing to claim. This means that either:

A. My claim isn't believable or wouldn't save me.

OR

B. My role is scum pretending to be "A."

As I know I am aligned towards the town, I noticed that A has worked surprisingly well in slowing down the game. B wouldn't work since if my motivations were B, I would wish to speed up the game and would, therefore, self hammer. Though, pointing this out destroys my own defense by creating wifom as if I realized above, I might slow down the game to look town. All this aside:

I am a decent investigation target because I have no other solid way to clear myself as not being mafia. I am doing my best, but so far, I haven't really seen anything but a town trying desperately to decide its best moves, a series of players who are playing far from there best, and most importantly of all: a series of people who are just active lurking and going with town concensus.

I bet 3000000 imaginary numbers that sajin, zwet, Pyro, and potentially setael, if not cleared by cop/etc, are scum. I would be truly surprised if I were more than 50% wrong.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Set has been cleared.

Also, I notice you joined over a year ago. I actually had to check because from the way you are defending yourself, I expected that you might be new.

Since this is NOT the case I now expect that you are scum.

You haven't changed a thing about how I feel concerning Rock. In fact, Rock at least

tried

to look town with solid town-like posts here and there.

Your defense is so convoluted I can only support your hammer.

[Pyromaniac]

Well your at least 2/4 wrong.

[Stephoscope]

Unvote

Vote: Light-kun

[zwetschenwasser]

Unvote; Vote: Light-Kun

Too much fake logic in his last post.

[Pyromaniac]

Did zwet just unvote and revote? ?_________?

[zwetschenwasser]

SSSH!!! It's a gambit.

[Lamont_Cranston]

LOL

[Lamont_Cranston]

Errf. We need a votecount.

Mod votecount please.

[Pyromaniac]

Zwet just "hammered". Stepho hammered.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Vote Count:

Light-Kun (6) - Dramonic, Lamont_Cranston, Zwetschenwasser, Dev, Tajo, Stepho

Dramonic (2) - ZazieR, Light-Kun
Zwet (1) - Percy

Not Voting - Pyromaniac, Amished, Sajin

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Dam. Kicks self.

[Lamont_Cranston]

Stupid votecount error. Well I guess we go into night now. Looks like we got scum.

[ZazieR]

So people who vote for you are scum? There are not 7 scum in this game. However, I would be hammering but I have a new theory. L-K is a jester. Rock's lurking, only posting meaningless shit looks exactly like a jester.

You've got to be kidding me.

Unvote; Vote; Pyromaniac

Why does this speculation warrant a vote?

And now this^^

It's scummy speculation.

Now with reasons why it's scummy specualation?
I want to hear if it makes sense for Pyro-scum to try and save L-K-town like this. If not, I want to know what the reason is why you switched your vote to Pyro.

[ZazieR]

Lamontand Zwet, stop being jerks, and answer the questions.

This.


Quote Pyramide, until Lamont and Zwet have answered.

Look I think your question is extremely stupid. I've already explained that I re-voted right after my unvote and that's all I'm going to say.

Not 'question', 'question

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And no, you're going to give the reason why you unvoted Sir and you're going to answer the other two questions.

[ZazieR]

1) The chances of scum making the excellent NK analysis that you did at the beginning of this day

2) Your extreme PM rolefishing expedition

1) Easy. It's called 'logic'. I don't see why this has anything to do with your read on me as both Zazie-town and Zazie-scum could have done it.

2) Never fished. Please show where you think I've fished.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Vote Count:

Light-Kun: 6 - Dramonic, Lamont_Cranston, Devestation, populartajo, Stephoscope, zwetschenwasser
Dramonic: 1 - ZazieR
Populartajo: 1 - Light-Kun
zwetschenwasser: 1 - Percy

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[ZazieR]

But to answer your question, I think scum faced with a confirmed self-protecting doc and an unNKable powerrole cleared by a cop may be tempted to do something about it. Her arguments don't make much sense, either - saying Amished may be scum/vanilla begs the "what happened to hohum N1" question, for example, and claiming three incredibly powerful PRs with confirmable actions would be an incredibly gutsy and probably fatal scum move. Desperate scum or tilted town are the ways I can read ZazieR, but I'll have to see more of her "live" (so to speak) before I can make up my mind.

As said, it was the only reason why I could see powerroles in the game. Due to Hohum getting another day to live.
Also, I'd like to see your reasons why you disagree with what I said about the powerroles.

[ZazieR]

There are far stronger lynch candidates today. They are zwet, dramonic, and Pyro.

Pyro less than the other two though.

Unvote vote Zwet

[ZazieR]

Damn I wish I knew L_C's alignment. The fact he hasn't been NKed makes me suspicious. And with his alignment we get a lot of info.

The second sentence is a desperate attempt to throw suspicion on Lamont.

[ZazieR]

Look: I am the favorite for today's lynch. I cannot disprove this fact. However, what if we had the cop investigate me, so that the night kill is controlled to kill an innocent person with very little draw back. The cop may lose the investigation still, but the mafia will also somewhat waste a kill. If they decide not to waste the kill on me, I am proven innocent, and that is one step closer to finding scum AND we have whoever else they kill for information. My death supplies less as a lynch than it does control as the night kill. Even if the cop's investigation is wasted, I theorize this control (or attempted if th mafia are currently being controlled by the doll) would be extremely advantageous to us.

No. Lynching you gets rid of a scummy player, scum will kill a player (perhaps two if the SK kills or none) and the cop can investigate. Decreasing the pool of suspects drastically. You want to waste an investigation. Not liking it one bit.

[dramonic]

How much time until Amished is replaced <_<

[Lamont_Cranston]

We can't replace Amished. He has played all the games.