MtG: Parallel Universe Mafia (Tar's subgame): Game Over

[Seraphim]

Addressed to anyone. You guys are missing it, but I will make it clear once I hear from Tar, i actually asked FL, who told me to wait to hear from tar .

As much as I hate waiting and vague hints, I'll humor you.

[Seraphim]

On that note, I think Pyro's latest accusation of Benmage being a cult recruiter or something makes him the most likely to be scum looking for an easy mislynch until he tells me why he thinks that's even remotely plausible.

[Pyromaniac]

You could be I dunno a cult.

I am not a cult recruiter or anything more than what I've already said. Maybe I am something less than what is assumed.

WHY SHOULD I TRUST YOU?

[Pyromaniac]

On that note, I think Pyro's latest accusation of Benmage being a cult recruiter or something makes him the most likely to be scum looking for an easy mislynch until he tells me why he thinks that's even remotely plausible.

I feel bad about someone getting a free ticket to endgame. With.literally.no.reason.for.it.

[Benmage]

You could be I dunno a cult.

I am not a cult recruiter or anything more than what I've already said. Maybe I am something less than what is assumed.

WHY SHOULD I TRUST YOU?

Why not. I have no previous meta of false claiming like this.

Is this not a viable logical course of action to take if given the role I am claiming?

[Seraphim]

On that note, I think Pyro's latest accusation of Benmage being a cult recruiter or something makes him the most likely to be scum looking for an easy mislynch until he tells me why he thinks that's even remotely plausible.

I feel bad about someone getting a free ticket to endgame. With.literally.no.reason.for.it.

Like I said earlier, reading is awesome. If you've been reading, his win condition is to be reunited with his lover, DDD in FL's game. This presents a problem as DDD is in another game. He wants to be ignored so that he can moved and reunited with his lover, thus allowing him to win the game.

You still haven't explained how it's plausible for him to be a cult recruiter.

[Seraphim]

@Benmage

Don't use meta as a defense. I HATE meta.

[Pyromaniac]

So, in summary:

Benmage has claimed 3rd party lover with DDD in FL's game. His win condition is get into the other game with his lover. If this occurs, they will both leave the game. Benmage wants everyone else to ignore him so that there will be no mislynches on him and so he will not get NKed.

Alright.

I'll buy it.

FoS: Pyromaniac

Reading is awesome and you should try it sometime.

Just because you do doesn't mean I do.

WTF? Are you saying you don't read the game? How the hell do you play then?

I do read the game. I have been reading the game. I just don't think we should just ignore benmage. Also, I think he could be a cult recruiter because asking for no lynching him and BPV. That would give cult an auto win.

[Sajin]

unvote; vote Pyromaniac

READ THE GAME.

The proposition is to test them. If they are not removed from the game, then we lynch. Lynching them is wasteful of towns resources if we have a cheaper (resource wise) method of testing alignments. So tell me why you as town would want to use up a lynch here?

[Pyromaniac]

On that note, I think Pyro's latest accusation of Benmage being a cult recruiter or something makes him the most likely to be scum looking for an easy mislynch until he tells me why he thinks that's even remotely plausible.

I feel bad about someone getting a free ticket to endgame. With.literally.no.reason.for.it.

Like I said earlier, reading is awesome. If you've been reading, his win condition is to be reunited with his lover, DDD in FL's game. This presents a problem as DDD is in another game. He wants to be ignored so that he can moved and reunited with his lover, thus allowing him to win the game.

You still haven't explained how it's plausible for him to be a cult recruiter.

You still haven't explained why you believe his claim? You have no reason.

[Seraphim]

Unvote
Vote: Pyromaniac

[Seraphim]

I believe his claim because his supposed lover confirmed it in the other game. PLUS, there are scum we could lynch instead of him. The prime example being you.

[Sajin]

You have not explained why you think they are cult and how they will win in one day and why that is a better use of resources. That is a lot of assumptions sir.

[Pyromaniac]

I have already explained why I think he is cult recruiter. I don't

really

think he is. I am just saying that I am not buying into this shit about not lynching him no matter what. I was saying what if he is cult recruiter? Obviously you can jump universes. There could be a cult recruiter in each universe.

[Pyromaniac]

I don't think we should lynch him. I don't think we should absolutely ignore him.

[Pyromaniac]

I have a gut feeling that DDD is scum and that benmage got out of his control and that he is in damage control mode in this game. I think benmage is indeed what he is saying to be (read Tar's game). I dont see him lying that much and so fast. The thing is that I dont see any reason why both roles would need safeclaims unless one of them is scum and has a shitty flavor to hide.

But I think jammer is partially right, there is no need to waste a lynch on him

yet

. There is more than one way to get rid of DDD that doesnt involve lynching him. I wouldn't mind getting rid of him but Im very open to things developing and getting a better idea of what to do with him as the game progresses.

I just laughed with the idea of having the transporter in SSK's game. How cool would that be?

I like what tajo says.

[Seraphim]

We are NOT ABSOLUTELY IGNORING HIM. Haven't you been READING THE GAME? If you have, you'd notice that most of the discussion has been about what to do with him.

There could be a cult recruiter in each universe

This is major bullshit. There might be ONE cult recruiter in the entire mess. MAYBE.

I am just saying that I am not buying into this shit about not lynching him no matter what.

Where does it say this? I don't think anyone has said this.

[Pyromaniac]

That was him whole reason for claiming. Fine. Let me revise my sentiment. We should not give him a free ticket to endgame.

[Seraphim]

That was him whole reason for claiming. Fine. Let me revise my sentiment. We should not give him a free ticket to endgame.

Where has anyone said we should do this?

[Sajin]

That was him whole reason for claiming. Fine. Let me revise my sentiment. We should not give him a free ticket to endgame.

I agree. However, your previous statements bothered me a lot.

[Sajin]

Benmage are you sure you are lovers with DDD? Could your win condition be to join him but your lover be someone else?

[Kairyuu]

I'm confused. This is a Tar game. You lynch neutrals immediately in Tar games as a general rule. Apparently we're not doing that though. Need more data before trying to guess why.

Also, we're talking between subgames? That's . . . annoying. I guess I'm gonna have to read those now.

Finally, in all likelyhood we won't be able do anything with Benmage until Night hits in one of the subgames, since we have to wait for actions to be usable.

@Benmage: I don't care what your win condition is. It is in your best interest to work with the town so that a switcher (who is probably town) has a reason to help you out. You work with us, we work with you. You act useless, we don't help you fulfill your win condition.

unvote
vote: Pyro

I have nothing to add. Easy mislynch, cult speculation, etc. etc.

@Pyro: Why would we have to No Lynch to get rid of Benmage? We can lynch scum (you) and then if it's the town's will, we can switch Benmage to fl's subgame tonight.

[Seraphim]

I think you misunderstand, Kairyuu. He's complaining about how Benmage doesn't want to be lynched and how we should nothing about him. Unfortunately, he is misunderstanding the entire concept and thinks that we are ignoring him(which we are not).

[Pyromaniac]

That is the impression I get is that you believe he is clean.

[Sajin]

Okay, thought about it a bunch. Here's what I think it all boils down to:

In order for the town to win, we must destroy all other factions.

Third parties are a different faction.

vote: Debonair Danny DiPietro

@Papa Zito- According to their claim thy are removed from the game upon joining each other. Therefore if they are in the same game and have not been removed then we lynch. Agreed?