Open 156 - Friends and Enemies - Game Over before 816

[Alduskkel]

Vote Count #12

To the Zetta Cave! Nanananananananananana Zetta!

itacv2 (4) - ekiM, ZazieR, Sho Minamimoto, Debonair Danny DiPietro
Debonair Danny DiPietro (3) - Toro, itacv2, Raivann
Santos (1) - Kise
Kise (1) - Santos
Toro (1) - muzzz

[Raivann]

no access till monday

[Alduskkel]

no access till monday

Noted.

In other news, Debonair Danny DiPietro and itacv2 have been prodded.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Too many people missing which means the same people are arguing the same thing in the same circles.

[Toro]

Too many people missing which means the same people are arguing the same thing in the same circles.

yup pretty much.

[Debonair Danny DiPietro]

Too many people missing which means the same people are arguing the same thing in the same circles.

yup pretty much.

You could help by voting for someone who might actually be scum.

[Sho Minamimoto]

The aggression was there, but I'm backing it off because its a null-tell, IMO.

Why is it unbelievable? It happened. You don't believe it happened or what?

It is an aggression I have never found in mafia games. Don't get me wrong, I like it. I just can't believe a player actually plays with such ferocity. It's zetta awesome.

You've never seen aggression in mafia before? Didn't you tell me in the beginning of the game that you meta gamed me and saw m play style? I am usually completely aggressive at all times... how is this so surprising to you that someone else is doing it? You said it would cause conflict between us, and now you are saying it is really awesome. This seems like a scummy statement to me now that I think about it.

You say that my aggression from previous games is going to cause problems between me and you, but now that someone else does it in THIS game, you agree with it and say it is awesome. HMMMMMM.

Your aggression seemed misguided. Swedish...irish...? Something mafia... it was some European place mafia game which recently finished.

[ZazieR]

Mod

- Santos is voting Kise.

And with that said, Exalt, what''s your reason for not voting somebody?

[ZazieR]

Raivann

Respond to this when you return.

[ZazieR]

Too many people missing which means the same people are arguing the same thing in the same circles.

yup pretty much.

The one who you suspect is actually here. Seems a weak excuse to not have to do a thing.

[ZazieR]

The aggression was there, but I'm backing it off because its a null-tell, IMO.

Why is it unbelievable? It happened. You don't believe it happened or what?

It is an aggression I have never found in mafia games. Don't get me wrong, I like it. I just can't believe a player actually plays with such ferocity. It's zetta awesome.

You've never seen aggression in mafia before? Didn't you tell me in the beginning of the game that you meta gamed me and saw m play style? I am usually completely aggressive at all times... how is this so surprising to you that someone else is doing it? You said it would cause conflict between us, and now you are saying it is really awesome. This seems like a scummy statement to me now that I think about it.

You say that my aggression from previous games is going to cause problems between me and you, but now that someone else does it in THIS game, you agree with it and say it is awesome. HMMMMMM.

Your aggression seemed misguided. Swedish...irish...? Something mafia... it was some European place mafia game which recently finished.

Scottish Mafia

[Toro]

Too many people missing which means the same people are arguing the same thing in the same circles.

yup pretty much.

The one who you suspect is actually here. Seems a weak excuse to not have to do a thing.

Yeah but DDD said, it's not going anywhere.

ahh...going to take a look back through the thread...

Unvote

[Toro]

Too many people missing which means the same people are arguing the same thing in the same circles.

yup pretty much.

The one who you suspect is actually here. Seems a weak excuse to not have to do a thing.

Yeah but DDD said, it's not going anywhere.

ahh...going to take a look back through the thread...

Unvote

That should read...

Yeah but like DDD said,

[ZazieR]

Too many people missing which means the same people are arguing the same thing in the same circles.

yup pretty much.

The one who you suspect is actually here. Seems a weak excuse to not have to do a thing.

Yeah but DDD said, it's not going anywhere.

ahh...going to take a look back through the thread...

Unvote

Wait. Are you unvoting somebody you think is scum?

[Toro]

Yeah, seeing as nobody else thinks he is.

[Alduskkel]

Mod

- Santos is voting Kise.

No, I'm quite sure he unvoted in post 175.

[ZazieR]

Mod

- Santos hid the vote in a big part of text here

[Alduskkel]

Oh. Whoops. Fixed.

[itacv2]

Responding to a question that was made.

Im not soft pushing someone witha power role since there are no power roles.

Being able to talk at night is not power. Just additional ability. To my perception to be power role u need to be a cop or doctor or something like that.

That aside i dont think he is a mason either.

So no, when i said i thought of him as likely to be power role, i was directly implying that he was scum and nothing else.

That being answered.

@ Zazier: even when i believe DDD might be scum, im beginning to feel more inclined to think you are scum, since i thought in the beginning your predecesor was. I will like to question your desperately way to react to every comment made on the thread with an exquisite selection of arguments and none of them heve seem to lead anywhere close to a nice suspicion. I believe you are Scum, and you are hiddinng behind a leader character which i have seen can usually be one of the scums, and often do this in order to take the bullseye from their head.

[Santos]

^That is what I was thinking about ZazieR-scum.

So uh, Kise should be around. However, seeing as he will need a proper replacement,

Unvote

[ZazieR]

Responding to a question that was made.

Im not soft pushing someone witha power role since there are no power roles.

Being able to talk at night is not power. Just additional ability. To my perception to be power role u need to be a cop or doctor or something like that.

That aside i dont think he is a mason either.

So no, when i said i thought of him as likely to be power role, i was directly implying that he was scum and nothing else.

That being answered.

In other words, you were trying to coach somebody of whom you thought he was scum. You didn''t want to look into somebody else you thought was scum. And you didn''t want somebody dead of whom you thought he was scum. That makes a lot of sense

@ Zazier: even when i believe DDD might be scum, im beginning to feel more inclined to think you are scum, since i thought in the beginning your predecesor was. I will like to question your desperately way to react to every comment made on the thread with an exquisite selection of arguments and none of them heve seem to lead anywhere close to a nice suspicion. I believe you are Scum, and you are hiddinng behind a leader character which i have seen can usually be one of the scums, and often do this in order to take the bullseye from their head.

First of all, you''re saying that you thought Frankie was scum. Yet, you didn''t point this out, while reading along. And when you stated that scum use inactiveness to lay low, you only mentioned Toro. Yes, this was after I replaced into this game. But if he truely thought Frankie''s behaviour was scummy, I''d expect him to mention him as well.
Secondly, I''m always acting like this. As scum and as town.
However, you''re using once again a generalisation. You''ve seen scum as leader types. You think that scum use inactiveness to lay low. Which means you can call at least half of the player list scummy. As there are only 2 scum, it shows that generalisations don''t show who the scum are.
It''s also funny to see that when you mentioned the inactivity argument, you state why you don''t think this is the case with Toro. Now with the leader argument, you don''t state why I''m leader scum, instead of leader town. Why is that?

[Toro]

The rest of your questions aren't worth answering. So I'm not dodging anything.

HA!

Good one there muzzz.

[ekiM]

Been busy this weekend. Was expecting to see something substantial from Kise and Exalt. Where are they??

[Sho Minamimoto]

Been busy this weekend. Was expecting to see something substantial from Kise and Exalt. Where are they??

Doubel vote: Kise and Exalt MOD! I AM KIDDING. Just prod Kise.

Though that would be the move I would make if I could at the moment. As for exalt though, I think it's too early to prod him in terms of activity.

Maybe pressure?

vote Exalt

[Sho Minamimoto]

ebwop:

Not sure if

unvote

is neccesary before my

Vote Exalt